Need a word of encouragement

With regard to issues of safety, cost, convenience and pressure to perform (both socially and sexually), a quiet evening with an old issue of Black Beauties or Barely Legal obviously has this hobby of ours beat--hands down. Is there really any justification for that peculiar pride I felt, so long ago, when I first got up the guts to pay for a real live woman?

Sounds like you're having doubts about continuing your foray in to this hobby.
Which leads to retirement.
Which leads to coming back.

In the last 10 yrs I have retired and returned many times. I even retired 3 days ago after I was outed a week ago and damned if I haven't made an appt for later today to see an ATF.

There is no escape for Providers or Hobbiests. It is our own Private Heaven & Hell. I don't know what it is about the Hobby that brings us all back. Is it the thrill of the hunt? Is it the variety of Strange that we seek? I don't know.

One thing I do know is It's a lot of fun and I love it!!

With regard to issues of safety, cost, convenience and pressure to perform (both socially and sexually), a quiet evening with an old issue of Black Beauties or Barely Legal obviously has this hobby of ours beat--hands down. Is there really any justification for that peculiar pride I felt, so long ago, when I first got up the guts to pay for a real live woman? Originally Posted by roaringfork

Am I reading this right? Are you saying because its cheaper, safer, more convenient and you feel no pressure, that a quiet evening spent beating the snot out of your dick while looking at a fuck book obviously beats actually getting your dick sucked by, and fucking a true life woman?

If that's what your saying, we ain't nowhere near on the same page. We ain't even in the same book.

If your worried about the money, safety, convenience and lack of pressure so much that beating off sounds like a better idea, than I would say you might want to rethink hobbying.

I wouldn't encourage anybody to stay in the game if those thing bother them.

In the last 10 yrs I have retired and returned many times. I even retired 3 days ago after I was outed a week ago and damned if I haven't made an appt for later today to see an ATF.

There is no escape for Providers or Hobbiests. It is our own Private Heaven & Hell. I don't know what it is about the Hobby that brings us all back. Is it the thrill of the hunt? Is it the variety of Strange that we seek? I don't know.

One thing I do know is It's a lot of fun and I love it!! Originally Posted by Von Spieler

Well said, which leads to my question. If ya'll know this up front, why don't ya'll save money and just get the LIFETIME PREMIUM ACCESS PACKAGE? and LIFETIME MEMBERSHIP on P411 also?

CG

It has never been an issue with money for me. The problem is in the DFW area there are so many providers it is hard to decide who to see and how often to see either the same ATF weekly or try 1-3 new girls a week. It's a cornucopia of flavors to be had.

The quandry of my concerns are whether she has a pimp and if one Provider's mouth, pussy or ass is better than another who charges much less. I don't believe in GP(Golden Pussy) Syndrome or HDH Providers. There are girls who charge $60 - $100 for a bbbjcim who far outshine a gal who charges $200+ for the same thing and tell me it's the time you are paying for. The same clock shows the same time we are paying for whether it be inexpensive time or expensive time. A timex bought at walmart tells the same time as a Rolex.

Those who buy tools know that buying Snap On over Craftsman = spending too much money for too little brains.

Just do your research and have fun. Try not to get ripped off, robbed, pimp slapped, or busted by LE or an SO. Use the Force and follow the Hobby Spidey Sense that you will come to love and embrace and if she has a Crown Tattoo, turn around and run.

With regard to issues of safety, cost, convenience and pressure to perform (both socially and sexually), a quiet evening with an old issue of Black Beauties or Barely Legal obviously has this hobby of ours beat--hands down. Is there really any justification for that peculiar pride I felt, so long ago, when I first got up the guts to pay for a real live woman? Originally Posted by roaringfork

I know that after my first appointment, and I remember it well (I was personally awful and knew it. I was so nervous!!) ... there was a sense of accomplishment. It was like, "I did it!".

As far as justifying what you felt well, doesn't it just feel good when you finally do something that is scary and just out of the norm for you? When I've tried different things, traveling alone ... going to a class that is a bit overwhelming ... finally getting the nerve to do "X,Y and/or Z" with a particular friend ... there is always a sense of accomplishment.

Sounds very normal to me!

I have found that a trip to a strip club at lunch time does wonders for the need for excitement and adventure. It also improves on the somewhat sterile environment of an AMP. Getting drunk at a strip club tends to take age off and add glamour to the scene.

Great advice above...


Hope this helps

Thanks everyone: the tone of my original post was influenced by a vicious case of the flu, and I can see where it might have been taken as an expression of discouragement, or as a criticism of the hobby. No way would I retire before achieving my goal of A Swaller From Every Color--and yes, probably not even then. What I really had in mind was a more abstract issue, related to a joke which I once saw posted by that truly despicable breed of stripper--the kind who wants all the financial benefits of being a sex worker, with none of the responsibility which comes with that identity:

Q: Why do men go to prostitutes?

A: Because they're too lazy to jerk themselves off.

I deeply sense and want to believe that this prissy hypocrite was somehow wrong; I guess I was just looking for some help in making the argument.

I even retired 3 days ago after I was outed a week ago and damned if I haven't made an appt for later today to see an ATF.
Originally Posted by Von Spieler

If you don't mind me asking, how'd you end up getting outed?

With regard to issues of safety, cost, convenience and pressure to perform (both socially and sexually), a quiet evening with an old issue of Black Beauties or Barely Legal obviously has this hobby of ours beat--hands down.

Is there really any justification for that peculiar pride I felt, so long ago, when I first got up the guts to pay for a real live woman? Originally Posted by roaringfork

an opinion stated and a question posed. didnt seen anyone comment on or answer it until elisabeth.

I know that after my first appointment, and I remember it well (I was personally awful and knew it. I was so nervous!!) ... there was a sense of accomplishment. It was like, "I did it!".

As far as justifying what you felt well, doesn't it just feel good when you finally do something that is scary and just out of the norm for you? When I've tried different things, traveling alone ... going to a class that is a bit overwhelming ... finally getting the nerve to do "X,Y and/or Z" with a particular friend ... there is always a sense of accomplishment.

Sounds very normal to me! Originally Posted by ElisabethWhispers

my thoughts...
1. i'd agree w/ your 1st statement - it is safer, less costly, more convenient and has less pressure.
and if that is your criteria, then i think you have justified it to yourself.

2. "Is there really any justification for that peculiar pride I felt, so long ago, when I first got up the guts to pay for a real live woman?"
only you can decide whether any justification is appropriate or worth it.
one justification is, as elisabeth said, that you planned and completed a task you wanted to do.
and i would say that is not much different from the pride in getting up the guts to be w/ a real live woman w/out directly paying for her time [you know the old adage - men pay for pussy, either by time or by agreement. in my opinion, it's cos many of them have the goods that many men want!]

of course, pumping your fist and saying "hot fucking stuff!" afterwards wouldnt necessarily be a justification, more a comment.

Thanks everyone: the tone of my original post was influenced by a vicious case of the flu, and I can see where it might have been taken as an expression of discouragement, or as a criticism of the hobby. No way would I retire before achieving my goal of A Swaller From Every Color--and yes, probably not even then. What I really had in mind was a more abstract issue, related to a joke which I once saw posted by that truly despicable breed of stripper--the kind who wants all the financial benefits of being a sex worker, with none of the responsibility which comes with that identity:

Q: Why do men go to prostitutes?
A: Because they're too lazy to jerk themselves off.

I deeply sense and want to believe that this prissy hypocrite was somehow wrong; I guess I was just looking for some help in making the argument. Originally Posted by roaringfork

in addition to having the opportunity and financial resources required to visit such a woman [not every man can do so]...

there are a gazillion reasons why men pay for intimate, sensual, sexual, erotic, kinky, you name it times and activities with women, whether they call them prostitutes, escorts, whores, companions, consultants, etc.

they may want...
a woman's soft touch
to be fellated
to be tied up and teased until they come
to tie up and tease the woman until she comes
to perform russian
to be pleasured by two or more women
to perform anal sex or have anal sex performed on them...

like i said gazillion.
just figure out why you want to be w/ an escort and figure out if that's reasonable, appropriate, and affordable for you. if you're ok with that, then go have fun!!! if not, re-examine all of this and your needs/wants/desires.

in any case, as best as you can, just be good to/for others and do little or no harm.

Never second guess what you've done. . . that's what wives are for. . .

I'd rather pick the right woman on here than to sign a marriage licence!