Are guys that lazy that they can't find what they want?

Here's the deal.

I read a thread not long ago where an ad posted the term SGFE and folks wanted to know what it meant.

Let's not go into trying to define GFE because although there's a generally accepted hobby term for it, there are too many guys and girls both who, because of the intimate nature of this thing we call a hobby, can't seem to adhere to a standard.

Is an hour massage really an hour? Rarely. Most end at 45-50 minutes so the client can get dressed and pay and be given a drink of water (or bottle) before hitting the pavement and there have been plenty of whining guys complaining about that.

Is an hour with an escort really an hour or is the "lie" of "this is for my time" biting them in the ass?

Seriously, we ALL know that the "you're paying for my time only" defense won't get you out of that prostitution ticket whether the guy is there for 10 minutes and pops or 59 minutes and 59 seconds so that is a crock that "he's paying for an hour, he should be able to stay for an hour". Unless the escort advertises and is know for MSOG, if you pop early, get the fuck out of there so she can get changed, freshen the bed, and maybe take some extra time to check her emails, PMs and check references.

Looking over the threads asking "who has the best ass, best tits, tightest pussy" all make me wonder what planet some people are from.

WALDT and what might be the best tits on one girl might turn off the next guy. Same for ass.

Some "ECCIE" girls seem to have a hard on for non ECCIE girls and there have been threads both here and on ASPD about having their reviews in a different forum.

Some seem to think that just because they have gone to school that they should be in a separate review forum or be treated special so that they can be found on an escort/prostitute review site easier.

Personally, I'd love to see escorts with at least a JUCO degree have a little code word or phrase and have the staff check that out for me so I can know I'm banging a college girl and not some drop out GED type. I mean, nothing screams skillz with her mouth like the fact she got a Bachelor's of Science from UT right! I mean, seriously? Why not put labels on every ad that specifically tells the cops more information about each girl that can be used when arresting them, especially if they travel.

If it weren't politically incorrect, I'm certain some escorts on here would prefer that the forums be split into white girls only. I mean, after all, we'd hate to have the guys waste time looking for what he wants. Let's just make it so easy that a potential clients doesn't have to waste time looking for what he wants on here.

My bottom line is that men are getting lazy and much of that comes from the bickering and egos of the escorts. Escorts will whisper in some guys ears about how they wish BP girls had their own forum and next thing you know, a guy will agree and start a thread. A licensed massage girl who happens to be using her massage certificate to bring in prostitution clients whines to her clients about having to deal with non licensed girls posting ads and waaah, guys feel sorry for her.

Escort who happens to also have a massage license sometimes feel holier than thou because SHE has a license and wants some way to make her easier to find than some freshly minted high schooler who can't find a job but posts an ad on BP in the body rub section.

As clients, we are no better than anyone else no matter what price point we pay or how many girls we see a year. Same for the escorts. You are all committing the same illegal act for the same fine if caught not matter what you charge or how you present it. That street walker getting in the car to give a CBJ? She will get the same ticket as the 1500/hr "call girl" who you take out to the Mansion, then spend an hour with her in the most intimate GFE experience of your life. Same ticket.

We already segment the girls into various forms and as noted on a blog, those street walkers and strippers seem to be the lowest on the pecking order and to now want to segment out and make another "segment" just because guys are too lazy to search and read is funny.

Is an hour with an escort really an hour or is the "lie" of "this is for my time" biting them in the ass? Originally Posted by LazurusLong

Sorry if i'm shifting your focus here but i've always had issue with this.
The majority of the ladies will attest that they are being paid for their time....yet the session is over when you pop. (except with the MSOG girls, who are the minority here). In my opinion that is the most BS form of false advertising. If it really means "1 pop...up to an hour if needed" why not just say it ?

I see PLENTY of providers than I care to admit here but the "its over when you pop" mentality is why i've invested HEAVILY in the civilian world of SD/SB, even when its for a single visit. As for the GFE/MSOG ladies here...I love you, and you are at the top of ALL my lists. You are why i'm here.

Wow, Someone woke up grumpy! (JK)
Where to start?

An hour. Is it really an hour? Loosly, I would expect an hour to be an hour, But, there may be a number of activites in that hour. Greeting, shower, play time, cleanup, chit chat, etc. If a client is expecting an hour of "activity" in addition to the other time consuming stuff, they need to book more time. For the providers, as a customer, even if there is no MSOG, I still expect to spend my full hour in your company. For me, its part of the experience. So if you tell me I have an hour, don't try to rush me out, just because the play time is over.

Best ass threads:
Yea, the whole idea of who has the "best" body part, etc is silly. But, I also look at many of those threads as the guys sitting around BSing. No one really expects to "win" the argument. Just a way to talk and have a little fun. If you don't like those types of threads, ignore them. Just shut up and go away. Let me have my fun and you can do the same.

More labels:
Like it or not, we are in the "information age"' Given the ability to label, define and sort for specifics, that is what will happen. No going back. Sorry.

The best marketing helps to define your product or service and set you apart from others. If a provider has something that she feels sets her apart, she would be dumb not to use it. As a consumer, why shouldn't I be able to search for a product I want as specificly as I can. Why should I have to waste my time digging through ones that dont meet my needs?

If I want a "real" massage with a happy ending, instead of a less qualified effort, why shouldn't I be able to find those providers?

Flip side of that? If I stay too narrowly focused, I may miss out on new things and experiences. Also, as a site administrator, I have to weight the value of enhanced features, etc against the added time/cost of providing them.

All the same?
Well yes, in the sense all providers, from SW to $5000 a night "companions" are providing the same fundimential service. Is one level of provider better than any other? Prehaps not. But the same? I would beg to differ.

Anyway, bottom line? We have the ability to be far more specific than in the past. Time has been compressed in many ways. Good or bad, we find ways to do more with our time. Its not lazy, its just the way our socity has evolved. I may miss some of the "old ways" but thats life. Just because you or I don't like it wont stop it.

If someone desires to set themselves apart let them. If you want to spend hours researching for the right provider, more power to you. Just don't expect everyone else to do the same.

I thought the search button was everybody's friends.

For the people who complain all the time, im sure they find what they are looking ( eventually) .....maybe?

Only a white girl forum.........well ........umm....well...umm.... strong statement.

Plenty of women and plenty of men..im sure somebody will find something they like here. If they search for it...

Oh the one hour thing....right...sorry didn't address that.

Well do not let one bad apple ruin it..some providers actually DO THE RIGHT THING.

I thought the search button was everybody's friends. Originally Posted by lisa.lisa0302

Search can be your worst enemy. Search for either Greek or GFE and the results will be filled with "everything but Greek", "Didn't ask for Greek", "Not GFE", "GFE lite", etc.

Strange but I have never had a problem with my hour being an hour. But then again I treat the ladies with respect and try to make sure they enjoy our time together as much as I do. By the time we have gone through all the activities I like we are usually right at the hour or past it and I have never had a lady try to get more fom me for this short run over of the time.
Maybe some guys and the attitudes they bring with them get them shown to the door asap.
As for the best ass threads ,best breast etc. Come on obviuosly they are intended to be fun topics and not to be taken too seriously. If a person doesn't like them they don't have to read them.
As for the rest of your post Lazarus I kind of got lost somewhere along the line. Some good points in there but it just sounds like you are becoming a bit frustrated with some of the drama that seems to come with the board.
We can all say Amen to that.

There's truth in everything he said.

But who gives a fuck?

LL, I Am not really sure what point you are trying to make. I think most of the guys, at least the ones I talk to have a pretty good understanding what GFE is. Most of us consider DFK, DATY, BBBJ and CFS to be GFE. We all hope for the illusion of passion but is is rarely present. I can pretty well tell by looking at the post what intelligence level has been achieved. Lack of a JUCO degree does not mean a lack of intelligence.

I do think, however that many of the Ladies offering massage are only offering rubdowns and not massages. As I told you in an email discussing this, I would like to be able to tell the difference when I read an ad. I am old and have aches and don't appreciate a rubdown as much as I do a massage. We can always go to the reviews to find the answer but that is time consuming. Being married and having only one computer it is sometimes very inconvenient to do a lot of research.

I am not sure what the point about paying for the Ladies time is about. I have been very lucky and I have received my full hour nearly every time. Most of the time is is a 65 to 70 minute hour. Only twice in my memory have I received less than the full time when I was there on time. You talk about the ECCIE Ladies dising the BP and CL Ladies. The same thing happened on the other board that you ane I were members of.

If your only point is that men are lazy then you spent way too much energy saying it. We may be too lazy to read all of the information you gave us. I prefer to think that rather than being lazy we are more into instant gratification.

Chipper

Chipper,

Yeah, I did ramble on a bunch here. Touched on several hot buttons that have bugged me recently.

Would have been best to create this in Word, edit and walk away and then edit a few more cycles before posting.

Your point about instant gratification sums it up nicely. Thank you.