Is ECCIE upstate NY hostile.

Is Upstate NY overly hostile so as to be little use to providers and hobbyist?

I was hoping someone other than me would ask. But my ECCIE english teacher put me over the edge.

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Hey Offshore - glad this is brought up in a coed forum. Hostile?? not really- dysfunctional- absolutely.......... Personally, the previous board and ECCIE has allowed me to meet some wonderful ladies and the ability to communicate with many like minded gentlemen. But like any family, sometimes the song is sung off tune! I personally hope that the Upstate Forum continues to grow and we see more participation from the ladies and would hope to see a lady mod! It works in other areas why not ours? So we can all agree to disagree sometimes but lets try to keep it civil and not let it get too personal. Have a great 4th of July!
Take care & play safe.........

would hope to see a lady mod! It works in other areas why not ours? Originally Posted by Perryay

I have been saying this for months, but to no avail. Instead the board ownership decides to appoint some guy (I think he is from Hawaii) as an upstate mod who has only posted in this area 2 times that I can recall and one was the posts welcoming him. I say shit or get off the pot. If you are not going to do the job, I have no use for you.

[ass-kissing]PS: The rest of the mods are doing a spectacular job. [/ass-kissing]

There is hostility and mistrust. So many different agendas and a great many of them are at odds with one another. That's the big picture.

Other than that, there is a nastiness where it seems like people can only lift themselves up by putting others down. That's the tone too often.

Intolerance on a board where people ask to be ass fucked, peed on, where to find a transsexual and where to get the best humiliation services...

It makes no sense that people are as intolerant as they are on the board.

I'm not sure what "better moderators" could do. Too much control and the place becomes so sterile that it loses its humanity.

The bottom line is that the board exists to aid commercial interests and is fueled by ego. It's a volatile combination.

So many different agendas and a great many of them are at odds with one another. That's the big picture. Originally Posted by NormalBob

This is something I have never been able to figure out. What agendas could there be? What is the "end goal" of these so called people with agendas? I have also heard another person refer to "factions" on this board. What factions and why? Are we sure were are not just looking TOO hard and convincing ourselves to see things that are not really there?

We can speculate all we want, but until there are facts proving or disproving something, then it is all opinion.

I am not totally convinced either way.

After attending the Meet and Greet last week I can’t help but feel that something like that would go a long way to creating more of a feeling of community around here. The only shortcomings I saw with it were a lack of adequate lead time and the fact that Elite was involved. Let’s face it most indies won’t touch an Elite event with a ten foot pole.
As far as factions and agendas go I think this started when the migration from ASPD to ECCIE took place. I think the feeling was created by the first group that got here that this was going to be our playground now with our mods and our rules and it was not very open to new faces. The only anecdotal evidence I can offer is that it is always the same people posting in threads like this one. Look at the names – see a pattern? And it has been said many times before and bears repeating; some people take this way too seriously.

Other than that, there is a nastiness where it seems like people can only lift themselves up by putting others down. That's the tone too often.

It makes no sense that people are as intolerant as they are on the board. Originally Posted by NormalBob

As far as anonymous internet message boards go, this one is actually quite civil. Are there disagreements? Sure. Personality conflicts? Of course. Those sorts of things will happen on any board you go on.

But let me make this point, Bob, and take this any way you want. The one person in this local section that's most prone to resorting to name calling, it seems, is you. I've been called a dick by you 2 or 3 times in the last 2 days alone. If memory serves, i'm not the first person you've referred to as a dick. I doubt i'll be the last. Off the top of my head i can't recall one other instance on the local board where anyone else has resorted to that tactic, and there have been some pretty heated conversations over the last several months. Maybe i've missed it, maybe i'm just not recalling correctly, or maybe you're the only one who does it. When people offer opinions you don't like, you're quick to jump on them for not having enough reviews (according to you) for their opinion to be valid. You're not above claiming that disagreements with you are due to the other person's sense of inadequacy. You've inferred that other people have questionable intelligence. And on and on. Which, i'll also say, is pretty par for the course for anonymous internet discussion boards. So to that extent, i'll brush it off and let it go. But when it comes to suggesting that other people don't follow the rules you yourself want to set but not abide by, i'll make mention of the fact that you're far from an innocent one here.

And before you again make reference to the forum guideline in my signature, i put that there only after being called Dopey, Stupid, and dumber than a box of rocks no less than 7 or 8 times in 1 week in the national section. By people who at the same time insisted that personal insults were tactics used by the weak minded. So i didn't put that there because i think we should all kiss each other's asses on a continual basis - i was simply referencing the name calling.

If it's your desire to keep disagreements and personality conflicts off the board, fine. Then either all the A's will need to let all the Z's do and say whatever they want without comment, or all the Z's will need to let all the A's do and say whatever it is they want without comment. Which do you propose?

Let me make one final point. I strongly suspect that if i knew you, and not NormalBob, i'd find you to be a pretty good guy. For the most part, your heart does seem to be in the right place to where you often seem to be one of the nicer guys here. I just think NormalBob would be well served to dial back a few things - as i'm sure, would i.

I'll leave it at that. Enjoy the 4th. Sounds to me like you've earned that right.

As far as factions and agendas go I think this started when the migration from ASPD to ECCIE took place. I think the feeling was created by the first group that got here that this was going to be our playground now with our mods and our rules and it was not very open to new faces. The only anecdotal evidence I can offer is that it is always the same people posting in threads like this one. Look at the names – see a pattern? And it has been said many times before and bears repeating; some people take this way too seriously. Originally Posted by jokacz

Most of the posts I see are good. I like perryay's post a lot. But I qoute this one becouse it is something I need to think about. Thank you jokacz.

Only a few where here before I got here. Some of them came back or are still with us. And I thank them for being here. As problems grew on another board. It got to be the wild wild west here. Till we got some mods. The fact that they where the same as from that other board I thought was a good thing. But then we had a rapid change in mods. Also at one point I was thinking that this board was growing to fast. Later the other board went down. And this board grew even faster.

My only agenda was to have more than one board. Yet as I look around we still only have one. Now this one. I still think upstate ny can support more than one board. But I may be wrong, as this looks to be the one. I think that this was the only agenda I had. If someone thinks I am wrong please let me know here or in PM. thanks again jokacz

edit: I got the idea for this thread from one in Men's Lounge. Started by another member. Would like input from male and female members.
As I get close to the end of my Premium Access. I am not sure if I want to do a review, buy access or just let it end.
Also thanks to my ECCIE english teacher.

I agree with you Offshore, this area will only support one board. As far as agendas, I thought it was to share information with others of similar interests to make our Hobby safer and more fun meeting new ladies with less chance of bad experiences. Anything other than that is counterproductive and should be ignored. The anonymity of the internet allows most anyone to make statements without repercussion. The only thing you can do is ignore them and move to something positive. I don't hobby as much as many here, but this board and ASPD previously have introduced me to every provider I have met without ever having a bad time. I hope it will continue in a positive manor.

Also thanks to my ECCIE english teacher. Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

I have to ask. Who is your English teacher?

I do not want to out him. But he will PM me when my english or spelling is not up to par. Most of the time I am ok with it. Other times I get pissed off. He can keep PM'ing me if he wants. I will not out him. As I was thinking of being a teacher at one time. And even was a student teacher. It is clear to all English is not the subject that I taught.

As many miss read what I typed. Most of the time I let it pass knowing english is the only foreign language I know.

Why piss someone off if they miss read me. But got the point right.
As some on this board do like to play word games on each other. Nit picking every word put out by others. My english is not that good to play that game.

Digital logic is my speed. Just a lot of "1's" and "0's", and gates. To bad computers took over that field. Todays computer will design the next.

I do not want to out him. But he will PM me when my english or spelling is not up to par. Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

Gosh, how does he find the time?

I kid, OSD, i kid!

Gosh, how does he find the time?

I kid, OSD, i kid! Originally Posted by Doove

And if more could LOL about self. Would help alot on this board.

"some people take this way too seriously"jokacz

Jack goes on vacation and the s**t hits the fan. lol