Is the Muller investigation gone on too long? ...Cost too much?

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/li...rticle/2644664

Senator Graham does not think so....I wonder wtf our resident Trumpers think?

Yes, too long... That so called article by Eddie Scarry from
the Washington Examiner is a fucking joke!

That ain't no article, that's clickbait.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/li...rticle/2644664

Senator Graham does not think so....I wonder wtf our resident Trumpers think? Originally Posted by WTF

Now here is the TRUTH from a Patriot named sundance! Not some see.i.a. asshole. Don't read what I post, go to the link...

* WARNING if you are regular @deomcraticunderground, go put your Depends on...
HERE--> https://theconservativetreehouse.com...s/#more-144147

Deadline Tomorrow For FBI To Turn Over Documents To Intel Chairman Nunes…

Posted on January 2, 2018 by sundance

Tomorrow, January 3rd, is the deadline presented by House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes for the FBI to turn over responsive documents, their field agent investigative notes and contact summaries.

The FBI Counterintelligence Division began an official investigation on/around July 15th, 2016. The target of the investigation was the Donald Trump campaign. The FBI has refused to answer questions or allow investigative oversight toward the origin of their endeavor.

Numerous leaks from the FBI imply the leadership is attempting to shape the narrative surrounding the origin. Suspicions are high. Key questions we hope to see answered soon with specific detail are:

1.) who was the FISC judge that signed off on the FISA application?
2.) what was the underlying evidence presented to the FISA court?

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♦FBI Agent Peter Strzok has been reassigned to the HR department. ♦FBI Lawyer Lisa Page, personal legal aide to FBI Asst. Director, Andrew “Andy” McCabe, has been returned to the DOJ side. ♦FBI Chief Legal Counsel James Baker has been relieved of his duties by FBI Director Christopher Wray. ♦FBI Asst Director Andrew McCabe has announced his intent to retire in March.




In October 2016, immediately after the DOJ lawyers formatted the FBI information (Steele Dossier etc.) for the FISA application, the head of the NSD, Asst. Attorney General John P Carlin, left his job. During his exit John Carlin informed the FISA court the DOJ-NSD frequently provided false information to the court to gain FISA warrants – Read Here.

Chairman Devin Nunes wants answers to the origin of the FBI counterintelligence operation. Back in February 2017 Devin Nunes went to a secure SCIF and saw some of the unmasking reports that stemmed from that operation.


View this document on Scribd
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Those who have followed the back-story closely can see clear political outline of the 2016 operation. Here’s the way the entire construct looks in simple outline.

Career officials, managers and staff within the DOJ and FBI wanted to help ensure Hillary Clinton won the 2016 election. Those people were ideologically aligned with President Obama, and held the goal of maintaining progressive advances as part of their motive.

A “small group” was formed within the DOJ and FBI to facilitate this goal. The first goal was to remove Clinton from the burden of the FBI email investigation.

Once that goal was achieved, they moved on to Clinton’s 2016 challenger. By the time the 2016 GOP convention drew near, everyone accepted that challenger would be Donald Trump.

As such the FBI “small group” began monitoring candidate Donald Trump in June/July 2016 as part of a plan toward the benefit of candidate Hillary Clinton.

However, the FBI and DOJ officials also needed an actual basis, a legal justification for their behavior and the time they were spending. The plan to justify that behavior was to create an official counterintelligence operation.

To get the counterintelligence operation going, they needed a reasonable basis for creating one. That basis was the formative seeds of claims of Russian connections to the Trump campaign.

To establish the basis the Russian elements needed for the operation; the DNC and Clinton campaign has earlier paid Fusion GPS (April ’16) to contract Christopher Steele to write a dossier that would form the legal grounding for the counterintelligence operation.

The wife of Glenn Simpson (Fusion GPS), Mary B. Jacoby, with years of Russia-angled reporting –including Donald Trump– visits the White House on April 19th 2016.

Fusion GPS (Mary B. Jacoby, and Glenn Simpson) hired DOJ Deputy Attorney Bruce Ohr’s wife, Nellie Ohr, who was well versed in counterintelligence operations, CIA operations, and using CIA tradecraft to create illusions.

Nellie Ohr worked with retired British MI6 Agent Christopher Steele to manufacture the Steele Dossier. The dossier would take innocuous connections between Trump and Russian people, enhance them, fabricate some nefarious appearance, and then be turned over to Bruce Ohr’s counterintelligence buddy in the FBI Peter Strzok.

In essence, the Clinton’s created the Russian “angle” out of thin air; and the FBI and DOJ used that creation as the legal underpinning for the counterintelligence operation.

The cointel op was always just a ruse for wiretapping, surveillance and monitoring of Donald Trump campaign officials.

The FBI (Strzok) and DOJ (Ohr) dressed up the Steele Dossier to apply for a FISA warrant (Asst from DOJ/FBI intermediary Lisa Page). The surveillance was happening with or without the FISA approval; but the FISA warrant would make the surveillance legal.

The initial application to the FISA Court was so sketchy (June-2016) it was actually denied. Denials rarely happen. One-in-a-thousand.

The Steele Dossier was dressed up some more. More stuff added, thanks to Christopher Steele and Nellie Ohr, to the second FISA application in Sept./October. That FISA application again submitted by Bruce Ohr, Peter Strzok, and Lisa Page. That warrant was approved.

If Hillary was elected, the entire counterintelligence operation just disappears into the ether. No-one would ever know about it.

But Hillary didn’t win.

Trump did.

Subsequently, the insurance policy is deployed. The entire Trump Counterintelligence Operation (Trump spying) now evolves into “A Russian Probe”. So the team behind the CoIntel scheme, again “the small group”, had to make up the “Russian Interference in The Election” narrative, a larger narrative, as the insurance policy and to cover their tracks.

The manufactured basis for the FISA warrant, ‘Muh Russia’ now REALLY needed to become real; or at least have the IMMEDIATE appearance of being real or justified.



March 2017 …”Because I had a fear that somehow that information would disappear with the senior [Obama] people who left; so it would be hidden away in the bureaucracy, um, that the Trump folks – if they found out HOW we knew what we knew about their, the Trump staff, dealing with Russians – that they would try to compromise those sources and methods; meaning we no longer have access to that intelligence.”…

[VIDEO HERE]

That’s also why the goofy “Joint Analysis Report on Russian Interference” was created. Brennan (CIA), Clapper (ODNI), and Comey (FBI), and to a much lesser extent the outsider Mike Rogers (NSA). This became the “17 intelligence agencies” blah.. blah… blah.

It was never 17 intel agencies. It was four. Only three pushed it. Mike Rogers said he had low/moderate confidence in the underlying intelligence within the report. The report was created as evidence to enhance the insurance policy. Nothing more.

[My hunch is if you put the Steele Dossier together with the Joint Analysis Report, you will find 90% of the FISA application documentation.]

Additionally, the entire crew, from the Obama Administration and current career people within the DOJ, FBI, etc., who understood the larger scheme, needed ongoing people to continue ensuring the insurance policy was maintained and deployed.

That drove the need for a Special Counsel investigation. Demand-Demand-Demand. Mueller’s investigation was really just another way the players within the original scheme could keep a lid on the events in 2016.

That’s why many of the FBI/DOJ “small group”, the crew who cleared Hillary in the email investigation, were also assigned to the Mueller investigation. Controls were needed.

Inside Mueller’s crew, the “small group” essentially works to watch over what information the Trump officials or congress could possibly be discovering…. under the auspices of investigating ‘Muh Russia’ etc. If the “DOJ/FBI small group” comes across a risky trail being followed, they work to impede, block, delay or deflect anyone from that trail.

That’s the ‘high-level’ summary of the way things look from a researched perspective.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/li...rticle/2644664

Senator Graham does not think so....I wonder wtf our resident Trumpers think? Originally Posted by WTF

Some times things aren't always what they may seem to be. This investigation may be one of those things. There's only two possibilities, one Mueller has a legitimate investigation against Trump or Mueller and Trump are working together to bring down the criminal empire of the Clintons and the Trump collusion investigation is just a ruse. There is rumors that Mueller has nearly 300 sealed indictments, if that's true it takes time to get all your ducks in a row which would explain why progress is so slow.

Jim

Some times things aren't always what they may seem to be. This investigation may be one of those things. There's only two possibilities, one Mueller has a legitimate investigation against Trump or Mueller and Trump are working together to bring down the criminal empire of the Clintons and the Trump collusion investigation is just a ruse. There is rumors that Mueller has nearly 300 sealed indictments, if that's true it takes time to get all your ducks in a row which would explain why progress is so slow.

Jim Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

Shit I hope it is a bit of both....Trump is no better than the Clintons!

The more indictments the merrier!


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Still over a year and no significant evidence. People forget that every major new organization was pitched the "Steele dossier" and they all passed. Then somehow the Dims got Dim insiders to pay for it and treat it as gospel.

Also Team Hillary "lost" over twenty iphones, ipads and laptops.

The real action is that big boomerang heading back at the people who started this farce.

Still over a year and no significant evidence. People forget that every major new organization was pitched the "Steele dossier" and they all passed. Then somehow the Dims got Dim insiders to pay for it and treat it as gospel.

. Originally Posted by gnadfly

But is that why the FBI started their investigation?

I guess another good question is did the Clinton campaign really know about the FBI interference or maybe they just had a feeling that things were going lucky. Was there truly a conspiracy between the FBI and the Clinton campaign?

But is that why the FBI started their investigation? Originally Posted by WTF

No, it was some drunk Greek guy talking to a drunk Australian guy. You have to get up early in the morning to fool James Comey, Clapper and Brennan.

Shit I hope it is a bit of both....Trump is no better than the Clintons!

The more indictments the merrier!


. Originally Posted by WTF

I am all for indictments for anyone in Government that has been involved in anything criminal including Trump. But if there is 300 sealed indictments coming down the pipe Trump isn't going to be one of them. The Clintons are a political version of Bonnie and Clyde, Trump can't be compared to the Clintons, they are dirtier than fuck.

Jim

Still over a year and no significant evidence. People forget that every major new organization was pitched the "Steele dossier" and they all passed. Then somehow the Dims got Dim insiders to pay for it and treat it as gospel.

Also Team Hillary "lost" over twenty iphones, ipads and laptops. Originally Posted by gnadfly

Not just no significant evidence, but what HAS been found shows just how PARTISAN and corrupt both the FBI and DoIJ are towards trump, while at the same time, showing just HOW MUCH they have let hillary and co get away with.
SO ANYONE stupid enough to still feel Mueller is a straight shooter, needs to get a MRI to ensure they still have a fucking brain.

SO ANYONE stupid enough to still feel Mueller is a straight shooter, needs to get a MRI to ensure they still have a fucking brain. Originally Posted by garhkal

Here is your MRI...


Turns out you have the brains of a ready to flush toilet

Dayum, WTF.

You sure got them monkeys howling!!!

Here is your MRI...


Turns out you have the brains of a ready to flush toilet





Originally Posted by WTF

that's not a MRI scan that's an ex-ray scan.