Tonight we're gonna party like it's 1865! Mississippi FINALLY ratifies the 13th Amendment

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THOSE LYING HOLLYWOOD LIBERALS AND MAINSTREAM MEDIA ARE AT IT AGAIN! Mississippi finally caves into social pressure!



http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...sippi/1932501/

Movie nudges Miss. to finally outlaw slavery
Jerry Mitchell, The (Jackson, Miss.) Clarion-Ledger 4:42p.m. EST February 20, 2013
Mississippi ratified the 13th Amendment 130 years after Congress approved it but never sent notice to the federal government.


JACKSON, Miss. — Oscar-nominated Lincoln, which depicts the political fight to pass the 13th Amendment abolishing slavery, played a role in Mississippi officially ratifying the amendment this month — a century and a half later.

The story opens, not surprisingly, in a movie theater.

In November, Dr. Ranjan Batra, associate professor of neurobiology and anatomical sciences at the University of Mississippi Medical Center, saw the Steven Spielberg film and wondered afterward what happened when the states voted on ratification.

That night, Batra — a native of India who became a U.S. citizen in 2008 — went on the usconstitution.net website and learned the rest of the story.

After Congress voted for the 13th Amendment in January 1864, the measure went to the states for ratification.

On Dec. 6, 1865, the amendment received the three-fourths' vote it needed when Georgia became the 27th state to ratify it. States that rejected the measure included Delaware, Kentucky, Mississippi and New Jersey.

In the months and years that followed, states continued to ratify the amendment, including those that had initially rejected it. New Jersey ratified the amendment in 1866, Delaware in 1901 and Kentucky in 1976.

But Mississippi had an asterisk. A note read: "Mississippi ratified the amendment in 1995, but because the state never officially notified the U.S. Archivist, the ratification is not official."

The next day, Batra spoke with Ken Sullivan, an anatomical material specialist for the University Medical Center's body donation program.

When Batra mentioned Mississippi had never ratified the amendment, Sullivan responded that he remembered state lawmakers had voted to ratify the amendment in 1995, when he was a high school senior.

Batra shared what he had read online, and Sullivan started researching.

He telephoned the National Archives' Office of the Federal Register, confirmed Mississippi had yet to officially ratify the amendment and found out what paperwork was needed.

That weekend, Sullivan took his wife, Kris, to see Lincoln, which details the 16th president's fight to abolish slavery once and for all.

"People stood up and applauded at the end of it," he said. "That's the first time I ever saw an audience do that."

Sullivan had tears in his eyes, overwhelmed.

This isn't the first time the movie has caused people to dig into history. Earlier this month, Rep. Joe Courtney, D-Conn., called on Steven Spielberg to correct a historical inaccuracy in a key scene suggesting that two of his state's three representatives voted against the amendment in 1865.

Actually, all four voted for it, and screenwriter Tony Kushner acknowledged he took some cinematic license.

Back in Mississippi after seein the movie, Sullivan knew he would do what he could to ensure his native state officially ratified the amendment.

"I felt very connected to the history," he said.

He tracked down a copy of the 1995 Senate resolution, introduced by state Sen. Hillman Frazier, a Democrat from Jackson who had been upset to learn Mississippi was the only state that had never ratified the 13th Amendment.

The resolution passed both the Mississippi Senate and House.

"It was unanimous," Frazier recalled. "Some didn't vote, but we didn't receive a 'nay' vote."

The last paragraph of the resolution called on the secretary of state to send a copy to the Office of the Federal Register.

Why the copy was never sent in 1995 remains unknown.

"What an amendment to have an error in filing," said Dick Molpus, who served then as secretary of state. "Thanks to Ken Sullivan for being a good citizen in bringing this oversight to light, so it can be corrected."

That Lincoln played a role pleases him, he said.

"It was one of the most inspirational movies I've ever seen."

After seeing the film, Sullivan contacted the office of Secretary of State Delbert Hosemann, who agreed to file the paperwork and make it official.

On Jan. 30, Hosemann sent the Office of the Federal Register a copy of the 1995 Senate resolution, adopted by both the Mississippi Senate and House.

On Feb. 7, Charles A. Barth, director of the Federal Register, wrote back that he had received the resolution: "With this action, the State of Mississippi has ratified the 13th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States."

"We're very deliberate in our state," Frazier said. "We finally got it right."

Hosemann said he is glad to see the chapter closed, adding, "It was long overdue."

To be a part of something historic, to see the 13th Amendment finally ratified pleases Sullivan.

"Now it's officially filed and recorded," he said. "There's no asterisk by Mississippi any more."
You're a day late and a dollar short on this post.

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=673840

It was an unfair cheap shot the first time, too.
Chica Chaser's Avatar
I didn't know there were still slaves and slave owners in Mississippi. Glad they joined the 19th century there. Did they keep them out on the plantations, out of public view?
I didn't know there were still slaves and slave owners in Mississippi. Glad they joined the 19th century there. Did they keep them out on the plantations, out of public view? Originally Posted by Chica Chaser
No, but you know how it is when a dumb ass sees something he thinks is relavent he has to bark.
Yssup Rider's Avatar
I'll admit to not having read that post to begin with.

However, when I heard the story on TV last night, I had to post something.

How do you NOT post something where the "culprit" is named Hosemann? Sounds like an ECCIE handle.

And why is it a cheap shot? True or untrue? Nothing against Mississippi, but this is a rather exposed fuckup. When you become a footnote to a Hollywood blockbuster, it's time to pay attention.

Anyway, I'm glad they ratified the Amendment. Arent you?
Chica Chaser's Avatar
It's totally permissible to ridicule Mississippi here, for any number of reasons.
Yssup Rider's Avatar
It's totally permissible to ridicule Mississippi here, for any number of reasons. Originally Posted by Chica Chaser
Yeah, but they don't know you're doing it.

Had some good times there in the mid 60s. Thankfully I was young enough not to know what was going on.

I did notice, however, that a lot of the songs on the radio in Houston weren't on the radio in Jackson.
Chica Chaser's Avatar
Yeah, but they don't know you're doing it. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Thats the best part! LOL!
Or Alabama too, if you're inclined
It's totally permissible to ridicule Mississippi here, for any number of reasons. Originally Posted by Chica Chaser
One person ridicules Austin every time they post and he doesn't even know it!
Yssup Rider's Avatar
Well said!

You can do better than that. Or maybe you can't.

EverYbody knows I'm from Harlem!

JD Barleycorn's Avatar
Yes and as I pointed out earlier this week (you missed that too or you won't have posted) it took a GOP governor, a GOP house, and a GOP senate to ratify the amendment. Someone has to fix what the democrats do or don't do.
Yssup Rider's Avatar
God Bless the GOP!
JD Barleycorn's Avatar
There you have it folks. My work here is done. The GOP saved the slaves and Whatzup acknowledges that fact.
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Yes and as I pointed out earlier this week (you missed that too or you won't have posted) it took a GOP governor, a GOP house, and a GOP senate to ratify the amendment. Someone has to fix what the democrats do or don't do. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
Actually JD, you are not totally correct. Mississippi voted to ratify the amendment in 1995. It was not until the election of 2011 that the GOP had the control you stated. By the way, why did the Republicans not ratify the amendment in the early 1870's when they were in power in MS?
Actually JD, you are not totally correct. Mississippi voted to ratify the amendment in 1995. It was not until the election of 2011 that the GOP had the control you stated. By the way, why did the Republicans not ratify the amendment in the early 1870's when they were in power in MS? Originally Posted by chefnerd
Were they? Why don't you tell us why?

The Republicans passed it in almost every other Confederate state - no help from the Democrats. Maybe the Democrats were too strong or violent in MI?