More Proof of Collusion - Trumpy Kills 200+ Russians in Syria!

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Oh, fuck! Why would Trumpy do this? Isn't he skeered of Pooty-Poot? Isn't he supposed to act like a Russian puppet? Puppets don't normally slaughter their puppet master's troops on the battlefield.

Just doesn't fit the failed libtard narrative, does it?

Maybe that's why it took the lamestream media 2 weeks to pick up on the story!

Here's the WSJ's take on what happened. The estimate of over 200 Russians killed is mentioned in other accounts.


Russia’s Attack on U.S. Troops

Putin’s mercenaries are bloodied in Syria, as he tries to drive Trump out.


By The Editorial Board
Feb. 23, 2018 6:50 p.m. ET
720 COMMENTS

The truth is starting to emerge about a recent Russian attack on U.S. forces in eastern Syria, and it deserves more public attention. The assault looks increasingly like a botched attempt to bloody the U.S. and intimidate President Trump into withdrawing from Syria once Islamic State is defeated. The U.S. military won this round, but Vladimir Putin’s forces will surely look for a chance at revenge.

Here’s what we know. Several hundred men and materiel advanced on a U.S. Special Forces base near Deir al-Zour on the night of Feb. 7-8. Pentagon spokeswoman Dana White confirmed soon afterward that the “battalion-sized unit formation” was “supported by artillery, tanks, multiple-launch rocket systems and mortars.” U.S. forces responded in self-defense “with a combination of air and artillery strikes.”

Ms. White wouldn’t confirm how many attackers were killed or who was fighting, though the U.S. had “observed” the military buildup for a week. Defense Secretary James Mattis called the confrontation “perplexing,” adding that “I have no idea why they would attack there, the forces were known to be there, obviously the Russians knew.” He’s referring to the U.S.-Russia “deconfliction” agreement in which the Russians agreed to stay west of the Euphrates River.

Now we’re learning that Russian fighters were killed in the attack, and Lebanese Hezbollah was also involved. The Kremlin has tried to cover up the deaths, but that’s getting harder as the body bags come home and Russian social media spread the word. The Foreign Ministry finally admitted Tuesday that “several dozen” Russians were killed or wounded but claimed that “Russian service members did not take part in any capacity and Russian military equipment was not used.”

That depends on how you define “Russian military.” Evidence is growing that the attack was orchestrated by Yevgeny Prigozhin, the Russian oligarch who does much of Mr. Putin’s dirty work. His businesses include the Internet Research Agency, a media operation indicted by a federal grand jury last week for meddling in the 2016 U.S. election.

Mr. Putin has a history of using mercenaries in Crimea and southern Ukraine, the better to preserve deniability if something goes wrong. The Obama Administration blacklisted Mr. Prigozhin in 2016 for supporting Russia’s Ukraine invasion, and in June the Trump Administration sanctioned Dmitry Utkin, a former Russian intelligence officer associated with Mr. Prigozhin’s Wagner Group of mercenaries.

Wagner has been fighting in Syria since 2015, according to the Institute for the Study of War’s Bradley Hanlon, including campaigns to retake oil-rich areas. Mr. Putin has been doling out contracts tied to oil and mining to mercenaries in Syria, including to Mr. Prigozhin.

The Washington Post reported Thursday, citing intelligence sources, that Mr. Prigozhin had “secured permission from an unspecified Russian minister” for the attack and had also “discussed” it with Syrian officials. Mr. Prigozhin would never undertake such an operation unless he felt he had clearance from the highest levels of the Kremlin.

Why risk such an attack, especially given how badly it went for Russia? Mr. Putin is constantly probing for weaknesses in adversaries, and perhaps he wanted to embarrass Mr. Trump by capturing some Americans. Perhaps he hoped to push the U.S. troops back and seize the nearby oil fields. With Mr. Trump sending no clear signals about U.S. intentions after Islamic State, and given his 2016 campaign claims that Syria is someone else’s problem, Mr. Putin might have thought that some American casualties, prisoners or a retreat would increase calls inside the U.S. to leave Syria.

The U.S. military response was impressive and laudable, but American silence about the Russian attack is puzzling. The attack shows again that Mr. Putin is looking to damage U.S. interests wherever he sees an opportunity, even at the risk of a U.S.-Russia military engagement. Maybe Mr. Trump doesn’t want to humiliate Mr. Putin, but the Russian won’t forget this defeat merely because the U.S. is quiet about it.

The danger is that he’ll interpret U.S. silence to mean that he can risk an attempt at revenge. Mr. Putin is running for re-election this spring, and while he has rigged the vote to guarantee victory, the Russian public needs to know his mercenaries suffered a humiliating defeat. If the U.S. won’t tell the truth, Mr. Putin has an easier time telling lies.

The Russian engagement also shows that the U.S. is operating a de facto safe zone for allies in eastern Syria. The Pentagon is still pursuing dispersed Islamic State fighters, but another goal is to influence the shape of post-ISIS Syria. Mr. Putin wants to push the U.S. and its allies out so its axis with Iran can dominate Syria. Look for more such confrontations to come.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/russias...ops-1519429855
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Oh, fuck! Why would Trumpy do this? Isn't he skeered of Pooty-Poot? Isn't he supposed to act like a Russian puppet? Puppets don't normally slaughter their puppet master's troops on the battlefield.

Just doesn't fit the libtard narrative, does it?

Maybe that's why it took the lamestream media 2 weeks to pick up on the story!

Here is the WSJ's take on what happened. The estimate of over 200 Russians killed is mentioned in other accounts.


Russia’s Attack on U.S. Troops

Putin’s mercenaries are bloodied in Syria, as he tries to drive Trump out.


By The Editorial Board
Feb. 23, 2018 6:50 p.m. ET
720 COMMENTS

The truth is starting to emerge about a recent Russian attack on U.S. forces in eastern Syria, and it deserves more public attention. The assault looks increasingly like a botched attempt to bloody the U.S. and intimidate President Trump into withdrawing from Syria once Islamic State is defeated. The U.S. military won this round, but Vladimir Putin’s forces will surely look for a chance at revenge.

Here’s what we know. Several hundred men and materiel advanced on a U.S. Special Forces base near Deir al-Zour on the night of Feb. 7-8. Pentagon spokeswoman Dana White confirmed soon afterward that the “battalion-sized unit formation” was “supported by artillery, tanks, multiple-launch rocket systems and mortars.” U.S. forces responded in self-defense “with a combination of air and artillery strikes.”

Ms. White wouldn’t confirm how many attackers were killed or who was fighting, though the U.S. had “observed” the military buildup for a week. Defense Secretary James Mattis called the confrontation “perplexing,” adding that “I have no idea why they would attack there, the forces were known to be there, obviously the Russians knew.” He’s referring to the U.S.-Russia “deconfliction” agreement in which the Russians agreed to stay west of the Euphrates River.

Now we’re learning that Russian fighters were killed in the attack, and Lebanese Hezbollah was also involved. The Kremlin has tried to cover up the deaths, but that’s getting harder as the body bags come home and Russian social media spread the word. The Foreign Ministry finally admitted Tuesday that “several dozen” Russians were killed or wounded but claimed that “Russian service members did not take part in any capacity and Russian military equipment was not used.”

That depends on how you define “Russian military.” Evidence is growing that the attack was orchestrated by Yevgeny Prigozhin, the Russian oligarch who does much of Mr. Putin’s dirty work. His businesses include the Internet Research Agency, a media operation indicted by a federal grand jury last week for meddling in the 2016 U.S. election.

Mr. Putin has a history of using mercenaries in Crimea and southern Ukraine, the better to preserve deniability if something goes wrong. The Obama Administration blacklisted Mr. Prigozhin in 2016 for supporting Russia’s Ukraine invasion, and in June the Trump Administration sanctioned Dmitry Utkin, a former Russian intelligence officer associated with Mr. Prigozhin’s Wagner Group of mercenaries.

Wagner has been fighting in Syria since 2015, according to the Institute for the Study of War’s Bradley Hanlon, including campaigns to retake oil-rich areas. Mr. Putin has been doling out contracts tied to oil and mining to mercenaries in Syria, including to Mr. Prigozhin.

The Washington Post reported Thursday, citing intelligence sources, that Mr. Prigozhin had “secured permission from an unspecified Russian minister” for the attack and had also “discussed” it with Syrian officials. Mr. Prigozhin would never undertake such an operation unless he felt he had clearance from the highest levels of the Kremlin.

Why risk such an attack, especially given how badly it went for Russia? Mr. Putin is constantly probing for weaknesses in adversaries, and perhaps he wanted to embarrass Mr. Trump by capturing some Americans. Perhaps he hoped to push the U.S. troops back and seize the nearby oil fields. With Mr. Trump sending no clear signals about U.S. intentions after Islamic State, and given his 2016 campaign claims that Syria is someone else’s problem, Mr. Putin might have thought that some American casualties, prisoners or a retreat would increase calls inside the U.S. to leave Syria.

The U.S. military response was impressive and laudable, but American silence about the Russian attack is puzzling. The attack shows again that Mr. Putin is looking to damage U.S. interests wherever he sees an opportunity, even at the risk of a U.S.-Russia military engagement. Maybe Mr. Trump doesn’t want to humiliate Mr. Putin, but the Russian won’t forget this defeat merely because the U.S. is quiet about it.

The danger is that he’ll interpret U.S. silence to mean that he can risk an attempt at revenge. Mr. Putin is running for re-election this spring, and while he has rigged the vote to guarantee victory, the Russian public needs to know his mercenaries suffered a humiliating defeat. If the U.S. won’t tell the truth, Mr. Putin has an easier time telling lies.

The Russian engagement also shows that the U.S. is operating a de facto safe zone for allies in eastern Syria. The Pentagon is still pursuing dispersed Islamic State fighters, but another goal is to influence the shape of post-ISIS Syria. Mr. Putin wants to push the U.S. and its allies out so its axis with Iran can dominate Syria. Look for more such confrontations to come.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/russias...ops-1519429855 Originally Posted by lustylad
Trumps boss. ( Putin) is going to be pissed. Donald is probably pissing his pants
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Trumps boss. (Putin) is going to be pissed. Donald is probably pissing his pants Originally Posted by themystic
^^^ There you go, you lib-retard fool! Still reaching for anything to cling to your ridiculous failed collusion narrative, even in the face of overwhelming contrary evidence! You truly live in a parallel universe, where your delusions are the only reality.

Trump probably told Vlad in private next time he'll lose 2,000 Russians.
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the only one pissing in his pants is Prigozhin!!!
^^^ There you go, you lib-retard fool! Still reaching for anything to cling to your ridiculous failed collusion narrative, even in the face of overwhelming contrary evidence! You truly live in a parallel universe, where your delusions are the only reality.

Trump probably told Vlad in private next time he'll lose 2,000 Russians. Originally Posted by lustylad
Yep. Mistake seems to forget all of the money that oddumer GAVE to the terrorist trainers in IRAN and how he consistently bent over and spread his cheeks for the Muzzie Bro'hood !!
lustylad's Avatar
What is pissing off the Iranians and their Russian backers in Syria is - we are denying them a land bridge stretching from Tehran to Lebanon, making it harder for them to keep propping up Assad and delivering weapons to their Hezbollah thugs.

It's way too complicated for the lib-retards who subscribe to the odumbo school of foreign policy that helped to create this entire mess! All the lib-retards can do is sit back, scratch their heads and ask why is Trumpy - the "Putin puppet" - killing all those Rooskis?
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  • 02-26-2018, 08:30 AM
Oh, fuck! Why would Trumpy do this? Isn't he skeered of Pooty-Poot? Isn't he supposed to act like a Russian puppet? Puppets don't normally slaughter their puppet master's troops on the battlefield.

Just doesn't fit the failed libtard narrative, does it?

Maybe that's why it took the lamestream media 2 weeks to pick up on the story!

Here's the WSJ's take on what happened. The estimate of over 200 Russians killed is mentioned in other accounts.


Russia’s Attack on U.S. Troops

Putin’s mercenaries are bloodied in Syria, as he tries to drive Trump out.




The U.S. military response was impressive and laudable, but American silence about the Russian attack is puzzling. The attack shows again that Mr. Putin is looking to damage U.S. interests wherever he sees an opportunity, even at the risk of a U.S.-Russia military engagement. Maybe Mr. Trump doesn’t want to humiliate Mr. Putin, but the Russian won’t forget this defeat merely because the U.S. is quiet about it.

Originally Posted by lustylad
Did you even read or understand the article?

Trump did not order an attack on Russia.

It was not Russian troops or military equipment used.

Are you like bambino and leaving out key details of what the link you provide actually says?

bambino thinks Flynn is going to change his plea but will not bet me....How about you , you want some of that action.

I'll bet you , bambino and LL six months each and a total of 18 months gone for me.

In the meantime quit lying about wtf is said in articles.

You are going to get a reputation as bad as counselor LexyLiar.


I B Hankering's Avatar
The crew was Russian.

Russia: 5 citizens probably killed by US strike in Syria

(WHIO)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCZSZKIIfD0
The crew was Russian.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCZSZKIIfD0 Originally Posted by I B Hankering
More Russian " collusion " ! Just ask the lying liberals in this forum !
WTF's Avatar
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  • 02-26-2018, 10:32 AM
The crew was Russian.
Originally Posted by I B Hankering
Yes but we did not attack them nor were they current Russian soldiers.

lusty wants credit for us defending ourself from what amounts to a mercenary group in Syria.

Has Trump denounced the attack? No...Muller has indicted what by the OP accounts is the head of the group responsible for the attack. Think about that.

Why not? Is it because Putin has a sex tape of him? Is it because he does not want to piss off any rich Russians that may buy Trump property here in the States?

Trump has the same problem Clinton had....he did not disclose his tax records and he did not disinvest properly.
lustylad's Avatar
Did you even read or understand the article?

It was not Russian troops or military equipment used. Originally Posted by WTF



Yes but we did not attack them nor were they current Russian soldiers.

lusty wants credit for us defending ourself from what amounts to a mercenary group in Syria. Originally Posted by WTF
Trump Derangement Syndrome has made you stupider than a rabid bat! If we failed to protect ourselves and pulled out of Syria at the first sign of attack, you would have cited this as proof Trump was colluding to do Putin's bidding. Yet when we stand our ground and pound the shit out of hundreds of Russians inflicting massive casualties - you ALSO say it proves Trump is colluding! My thread title was tongue-in-cheek but you are stupid enough to argue it seriously! You are beyond the reach of reason.

Trumpy has Putin between a rock and a hard place. If Putin keeps using "mercenaries" for deniability, then he can't publicly complain and blame us when they get wiped out and people back in Moscow start asking questions about all of the funerals.
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  • 02-26-2018, 01:33 PM

Trumpy has Putin between a rock and a hard place. If Putin keeps using "mercenaries" for deniability, then he can't publicly complain and blame us when they get wiped out and people back in Moscow start asking questions about all of the funerals. Originally Posted by lustylad
Putin does not give a fuck about a couple of folks back home asking questions....he'll just kill'em. Plus he controls the media in Russia and the Social Media in the United States.

Now answer the question why Trump is not publically condemining Putin? Is he afraid he will be the star of "Piss Putin Off"?
Putin does not give a fuck about a couple of folks back home asking questions....he'll just kill'em. Plus he controls the media in Russia and the Social Media in the United States.

Now answer the question why Trump is not publically condemining Putin? Is he afraid he will be the star of "Piss Putin Off"? Originally Posted by WTF

President Trump NEVER tip's his hand, you stupid communist 0zombie.


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^^^ There you go, you lib-retard fool! Still reaching for anything to cling to your ridiculous failed collusion narrative, .... Originally Posted by lustylad
MisTake was also in Syria after he spent a lot of time in Central American where he didn't know there were British Troops, so it's probably a surprise to him that the Russians are in Syria or even nearby! Even after a Russian convoy headed for Syria out of Baghdad in the 2003 continuation of the "War in Iraq" was hit and at least partially destroyed in the North. (My speculation is the Kurds with Israeli support did the dirty deed!)

Small wonder the Obaminable Administration was ass-kissing the Russians for 8 years right through the 2016 election and afterwards! May be they were trying to convince Putin they would kick Trump out and put HillariosNoMore IN!
WTF's Avatar
  • WTF
  • 02-26-2018, 01:51 PM
President Trump NEVER tip's his hand, you stupid communist 0zombie.

Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB
He tips his mouth...