If you got the vax.....

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better be careful and stay out of the heat!

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  • 07-17-2022, 03:37 PM
Can you provide a link to your titled nonsense?
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I'm taking that advice. It's been hitting 100 degrees here in Miami most of the week but thankfully we got some rain yesterday, I rarely leave the house till the sun goes down. Just another perk of retirement.
What causes decreased blood viscosity?

Some patients with anemia have low hematocrits, and therefore reduced blood viscosities. Another important factor that influences blood viscosity is temperature. Just like molasses, when blood gets cold, it becomes "thicker" and flows more slowly. Just the opposite in high temperatures, the Blood thins out and flows more rapidly.
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Can you provide a link to your titled nonsense? Originally Posted by WTF
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-h...how-stay-safe/

The story says nothing remotely related to having "got the vax".

It's about the danger of extreme heat. Apparently the OP has been out in the sun a bit too long and should take that advice to heart.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-h...how-stay-safe/

The story says nothing remotely related to having "got the vax".

It's about the danger of extreme heat. Apparently the OP has been out in the sun a bit too long and should take that advice to heart.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
A person can hang out in 105 Deg. Heat whether they are Vaxxed or not. You could be risking heat exhaustion though.
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  • 07-17-2022, 05:46 PM
A person can hang out in 105 Deg. Heat whether they are Vaxxed or not. You could be risking heat exhaustion though. Originally Posted by Levianon17
The op implied that vax'd ....we're more susceptible to blood clotting.

Or maybe I've misunderstood his intent.

Maybe he can explain what "If you got the vax..."
I work outside in the heat. Got vaccinated last year and also got Covid. No difference in dealing with the heat than other years.
]The op implied that vax'd ....we're more susceptible to blood clotting.
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Or maybe I've misunderstood his intent.

Maybe he can explain what "If you got the vax..." Originally Posted by WTF;1062909728[COLOR="Red"
They are but it has nothing to do with ambient Temperature.
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Where’s your proof?
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  • 07-17-2022, 09:01 PM
They are but it has nothing to do with ambient Temperature. Originally Posted by Levianon17
You're not the op...plus, I have no idea wtf you just said!
Fucking morons don't need no vax even though their fucking moron leader did. They just bend over an take another ignorant stick up their ass and send mo money to their leader


Dah...and lie lie lie lol n omg fucking losers
Bambi sparkles said everyone who got the vax was going to die and their bodies would have to be burned within a year. I'll miss that silly excuse for why "not this year, but next year"...oh wait, we have his Gilligan to carry that on.
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Notice no response from the OP.

Can’t very well discuss topic as provocative as “sure gets hot in the summer” if we don’t know why in the world it has to do with the COVID vaccine.

Looks like a classic hit and run thread.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-h...how-stay-safe/

‘Your blood thickens and then clots’: what extreme heat can do to your body

As the Met Office issues its first red alert for heat, experts say we need to start thinking of high temperatures as a natural disaster

By Sarah Newey, Global Health Security Correspondent and Boris Barbalov 15 July 2022 • 4:20pm

Heatwaves generally conjure thoughts of lazy afternoons pottering in the garden, lounging by the sea or on the hunt for ice cream. But there’s a darker side to record temperatures: heat kills.

As a scorching hot spell engulfs Europe, the Met Office issued the first ever national red alert for heat on Friday ahead of potentially record-breaking temperatures on Monday and Tuesday, while the UK Health Security Agency warned “illness and death may occur among the fit and healthy, not just in high-risk groups”.

It’s not an empty threat. Excess death figures show that 1,634 people died due to heat last year, during what was a “fairly unremarkable” summer in terms of temperature. In 2020, when the mercury hit 37.8 degrees celsius, the toll reached 2,556.

Experts say the current prolonged heatwave – especially the “tropical nights” where temperatures remain above 20 degrees – could be even more deadly.

“The risk now is far bigger, as this period where we’re going to have over a week of temperatures in the high 20s and 30s is exceptional,” said Bob Ward, director of policy and communications at the London School of Economics’ Grantham Research Institute for Climate Change. “I’m afraid we’ll probably be seeing a high number of deaths across the whole of Europe, and it could well approach what we saw in 2003.”

That year, sweltering temperatures spanned the continent between June and August, and an estimated 70,000 people, mostly elderly, died – more than 15,000 in France alone. It caused many governments, including the UK, to create heatwave plans to tackle hot spells in future.

But how do people actually die from heat, who is most at risk – and how do you protect yourself?

The health dangers associated with high temperatures are split into two main stages, said Martin Berry, chief paramedic officer at St John’s Ambulance. Many of us will have experienced the first: heat exhaustion.

“You start to feel quite dizzy, have excessive thirst and become quite sweaty,” he said. “It’s usually a sign that you’ve been out in the sun too long, or exerted yourself and your body temperature has increased too high.”

This isn’t normally serious, as long as you can get out of the heat and cool down. But if you don’t and your body temperature continues to rise, you enter the heat stroke danger zone. And at this stage your system struggles to self regulate, and the situation can deteriorate rapidly.
An old wheel is exposed on the riverbed at low tide in the Carew River which runs alongside Carew Castle on July 11, 2022 in Pembrokeshire, Wales

“Problems really begin when your core temperature reaches the 40 degrees celsius level,” said Mr Berry. “One of the signs you see is that blood vessels start to expand, which means blood pressure starts to drop and less blood is delivered to primary organs. So they’re getting less fuel – less oxygen and sugar – and that will have an impact on normal bodily functions.”

The brain, which is “responsible for all the safeguarding mechanisms that keep us cool”, is particularly hard hit, and starts to misfire as it can no longer process the glucose it needs to function effectively. People also become red, warm to touch, confused and may lose consciousness. Their ability to sweat is also hindered – a problem as this helps the body cool down.

“At this point it’s a medical emergency,” said Mr Berry. “Sometimes a lack of glucose and oxygen to the brain can push someone into seizures… and the body’s normal regulation – things like the heart rhythm – become ineffective.”

“It’s like when a laptop gets too hot, it starts to do all sorts of weird and wonderful things,” he added. “The part of the heart that regulates normal rhythms starts to become too fast, too slow, or a combination of both. That irregularity can end up triggering cardiac arrest, where the heart cannot pump effectively – and that is immediately life threatening.”

In most cases of heat-related deaths, it is a cardiac arrest that proves fatal. But strokes are also common, especially if someone becomes severely dehydrated.

“When your body temperature rises and rises, your system starts to go into a vicious circle – you get cardiac insufficient, brain insufficient, and there aren’t enough fluids,” said Dr Bharat Pankhania, a senior clinical lecturer at the University of Exeter Medical School.

“If you haven’t kept hydrated, your blood gets sticky, and that sticky blood forms clots. If they form in what we call end terminal arteries – the heart, brain, gut – then that part of the organ starts to die. That’s a stroke.”

According to the World Health Organization, deaths and hospitalisations related to heat “can occur extremely rapidly (same day), or have a lagged effect (several days later)”. The agency added that even a small divergence from average seasonal temperatures can have a major impact, while extreme changes can also worsen pre existing chronic conditions, such as diabetes.

The elderly and young children are most susceptible to heat, experts added. According to the UKHSA, nearly 90 per cent of the 1,634 heat related deaths in 2021 were among those older than 65. Experts fear that many of these people died quietly at home.

“At the extremes of age – so therefore this applies to little babies and elderly people – the thermal regulatory system is not as finely tuned as it should be,” said Dr Pankhania. “The biggest trouble is that this system doesn’t send the elderly the signals that they’re getting hot and need to do something about it – so their core temperature rises, then rises again.”

Mr Berry added that the elderly also have less body fluids stored up as a backup, which means “they get into the heat stroke window more quickly, as there’s less of a buffer when they get dehydrated”. They may also be on medications, such as blood pressure tablets, which have an impact – while it is “vital that they take them, it just means they need to be more aware to prevent dehydration”.

So how do you stay safe in the heat? Dr Pankhania said the best approach is to prevent heat exhaustion or stroke in the first place. Drink plenty of water, draw the curtains, open windows, avoid strenuous exercise, wear light clothing, stay out of the sun – and keep a close eye on young children, as well as elderly relatives or neighbours.

If someone does show signs of overheating, slowly up their fluid intake, use a rehydration sachet and take it easy. A very cold shower or fan can actually be a bad idea, said Dr Pankhania – it cools down the skin but closes the pores, making it harder for the body to cool down internally.

Instead, Mr Berry recommended dowsing a towel, bed sheet or clothing in cool water and putting it over an individual’s chest. If the situation isn’t improving, especially if someone is struggling to breath and rapidly losing consciousness, call an ambulance. Medics can help cool someone’s internal temperature by carefully administering fluids directly into the circulating blood supply.

But in the long term, experts warn that Brits are going to have to become far better at preparing for and dealing with the heat.

According to a Met Office study into extreme heat, the chance of the maximum daily temperature exceeding 35C somewhere across the UK has already risen from once every 15 years in the middle of the 20th century, to once every five years now. Meanwhile a modelling report from the London School of Hygiene in 2014 estimated that, by 2050, heat-related deaths in the UK will rise by 257 per cent.

“As a nation we need more planning and preparedness for severe climate conditions,” said Dr Chris Papadopoulos, a lecturer in public health at the University of Bedfordshire. “The best response to threats to public health is always prevention.”

Mr Ward added that the UK’s heatwave plan is “not fit for purpose”, referring to a recent review of the strategy which found that it was overly focused on “warning and informing”, rather than providing planning and material help.

As well as preparing for increased pressure on the health system, Mr Ward said ventilation needs to be improved on public transport, while temperature limits for those who work outside should be introduced.

And alongside improving insulation in houses to protect against the cold, buildings should be retrofitted to prepare for the heat – adding elements such as shutters to keep out the heat.

“The big danger to those who are vulnerable is overheating in their homes,” Mr Ward said. He added that heatwaves should be named, much like severe storms, to raise their profile.

“We need to start thinking of high temperatures as a natural disaster,” he added. “If we had 100 people dying during flooding, we’d describe it as a natural disaster. Heatwaves clearly are, too – and preventable ones.”

Too hot for humans: City broils in world’s highest temperatures

Jacobabad, a city of some 200,000 in Pakistan's Sindh province, has long been renowned for its fierce heat, but recent research has conferred an unwelcome scientific distinction.

Its mixture of heat and humidity has made it one of only two places on earth to have now officially passed, albeit briefly, a threshold hotter than the human body can withstand.

With this region of Pakistan along the Indus Valley considered one of the places most vulnerable to climate change in the world, there are fears that Jacobabad's temperatures may increase further, or other cities may join the club.