bad trends

I had one of the ladies recently tell me of a distrubing trend she is seeing more of. She told me in confidence that many first time visitors to see her want, expect and almost demand activities that simply are not available with her. She said apparently they see such activities listed on various review sites and arrive with such expectations. Obviously, the information in such reviews are overly exaggerated. I have even seen reviews both here, and in good ole ASPD, of women that I know/knew from first hand knowledge were a bunch of baloney, from the description of the lady, to the location, to the activities. She told me it is getting to be such a problem, she doesnt know if she wants to continue seeing new people. Just a thought that it might affect the future of the fun, which I would hate to see.

The problem is that providers usually won't tell clients what IS or IS NOT on the menu, so all we have to go on are the reviews.

I guess a provider needs to monitor the reviews and contact the site if there are inaccuracies.

I usually try to find out what's she's open to wether I've read a review or not. This is after things are going a certain direction though; I might say something like "Well, I want you to have a good time too, so what do you like?", which sometimes gets an answer, but usually they end up asking me the same thing and she can say yes or no to whatever I suggest. I try to take what reviews say into account, but don't expect it all since sometimes a girl just isn't in the mood for a particular thing.

Is asking an expectation, just because you ask if she will or wont does not necessary mean your expecting it. Sounds to me like she is just tired of being asked.

Is there anything that LE can not do with a girl That I can to show I am not le?? Some providers have so many rules the "nos" take the fun out of playtime.

For any reviews to be useful, there needs to be at least 5-10 of them, then you can kind of see a "trend" of what's going on and what's being offered. Just one or two reviews, I take with a grain of salt unless both had the same experience, then I might put a little more stock in them. Also, old reviews like a year or older I always discard as no longer useful.

The problem is that providers usually won't tell clients what IS or IS NOT on the menu, so all we have to go on are the reviews.

I guess a provider needs to monitor the reviews and contact the site if there are inaccuracies. Originally Posted by KCQuestor

Providers can't see BCD comments so that part would be hard to monitor. They can see the other things like Activities.

@03flhrci - There are Hobbyists who will say whatever they think will get them what they want. She may be getting some of that.

@rayc - The whole idea is for a provider to provide what you want. They are usually getting what they want in another venue (with their SO for example). If what you want is to make a lady happy, some providers struggle with that concept. There are some (wonderful) exceptions!

@Dondo7 - Old reviews are kind of like a lost cat: If it was in Austin, TX yesterday, it is probably in Austin, TX today. As time goes by it may have wandered out of Austin, but it is probably still in Texas. People don't usually change their behavior patterns much or quickly.

@big country - I've heard several versions of what LE can and cannot do. Getting naked seems to be off limits for them, but I'm still not sure myself. And there can be rogue LEO's breaking the law.

...many first time visitors to see her want, expect and almost demand activities that simply are not available with her.... Originally Posted by 03flhrci

it's not the hobbyist choice what she decides to do or what she decides not to do.
even if she normally provides it.

if a review says bbbj, but the guy aint cleaned his junk in a year and it smells like a dead rat in a muddy diaper,
it probably aint happenin...

if the review says greek but the guy is hung like a team of horses on extenzes,
it probably ain't happenin....

if the reviews says DFK but the guys breath smells like he's been lickin a dog's ass,
it probably ain't happenin...

the choice is hers, including the option to show em the door.
she decides what she will provide, what is comfortable for her to do.
she's the one that is suppose to be controlling the session, for her own safety, whether the client knows it or not.
the more experienced the lady, the more control she has, and you got no clue.
you just think you do, the little head does all the thinking, where all the blood is, none left upstairs.
IF she knows what she is doing.

whoever she is seeing for the first, ain't to far from a first timer if they are believing everything they read.
you always figure the review has got SOME BS to it.
even if its an ol bubby of yours writing it.
new girl, new hobbyist just figure it is ALL BS.
YMMV,
every hobbyist knows that,
noobs find it out in a hurry.
much to some of em's chagrin
and they learn research, research, research
and ladies screen, screen, screen

you know all that, you've been round awhile.
from opening the door to closing it.
from meek and sweet to rough and tumble,
she is the director and lead actress in the show.
tell her to be a pro and take control.
screen tighter if it that much of an issue.
she does him, he just thinks he is doing her.
again, IF she knows what she is doing,
or she can bitch and complain all the time cause she isn't doing her job right.

hobbyists are hobbyists.
dawg will hunt....dawg will hump....don't blame the dawg....
it's on her to take control of her business.


and le can get as naked as they want.
they could do the nasty, go open the door to let their buddies in, and get dressed in the bathroom.
it's your word against theirs.
doesn't happen alot, but no matter,
whatever happens,
your word against theirs, they win every time.

One of the best posts I've ever read.

And not a bad poem.

Amen Jeff!

That is a pretty good post, Jeff. I agree it's YMMV. I haven't had anyone really tell me that they expected a certain activity based on my reviews.

If you are looking for clear and precise expectations, may I recommend:

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=84426

Dahmn!! Now what do you do for an encore...You've covered everything! Thanks!!

it's not the hobbyist choice what she decides to do or what she decides not to do.
even if she normally provides it.

if a review says bbbj, but the guy aint cleaned his junk in a year and it smells like a dead rat in a muddy diaper,
it probably aint happenin...

if the review says greek but the guy is hung like a team of horses on extenzes,
it probably ain't happenin....

if the reviews says DFK but the guys breath smells like he's been lickin a dog's ass,
it probably ain't happenin...

the choice is hers, including the option to show em the door.
she decides what she will provide, what is comfortable for her to do.
she's the one that is suppose to be controlling the session, for her own safety, whether the client knows it or not.
the more experienced the lady, the more control she has, and you got no clue.
you just think you do, the little head does all the thinking, where all the blood is, none left upstairs.
IF she knows what she is doing.

whoever she is seeing for the first, ain't to far from a first timer if they are believing everything they read.
you always figure the review has got SOME BS to it.
even if its an ol bubby of yours writing it.
new girl, new hobbyist just figure it is ALL BS.
YMMV,
every hobbyist knows that,
noobs find it out in a hurry.
much to some of em's chagrin
and they learn research, research, research
and ladies screen, screen, screen

you know all that, you've been round awhile.
from opening the door to closing it.
from meek and sweet to rough and tumble,
she is the director and lead actress in the show.
tell her to be a pro and take control.
screen tighter if it that much of an issue.
she does him, he just thinks he is doing her.
again, IF she knows what she is doing,
or she can bitch and complain all the time cause she isn't doing her job right.

hobbyists are hobbyists.
dawg will hunt....dawg will hump....don't blame the dawg....
it's on her to take control of her business.


and le can get as naked as they want.
they could do the nasty, go open the door to let their buddies in, and get dressed in the bathroom.
it's your word against theirs.
doesn't happen alot, but no matter,
whatever happens,
your word against theirs, they win every time. Originally Posted by jeff one086

@rayc - The whole idea is for a provider to provide what you want. They are usually getting what they want in another venue (with their SO for example). If what you want is to make a lady happy, some providers struggle with that concept. There are some (wonderful) exceptions! Originally Posted by BiggestBest

Yeah, I can understand that. But I genuinely do enjoy making it fun for her too, and if all I can do is let her know to tell me if there's something she wants then I've maybe at least made an impression.