Ladies: P411? Facial Hair? Make a difference?

time to renew P411 .... and i'll probably do it .. but .. i'm thinking and i'm thinking. i like being able communicate on P411 but the real value (to me) is the ability to write my profile. To explain what I'm like and what I enjoy and request the lady read it ... and tell me if she thinks we would enjoy a session. if she says 'no' or doesn't respond she is doing me a favor. if she continues the booking process with me, she knows exactly what to expect ... and what i will expect.

i also like the OKs ... because they are from the provider. reviews .. can be bs ... they are from the guys. every provider has had bogus reviews from guys they never met. but OKs .. are from the ladies, no control by the guys ...i like that.

so ... first question ... do you, ladies, prefer P411 ... does it have value in booking a guy? long story short, if i don't renew ... do you give a shit?

part b ...i have always had a mustache but clean shaven, otherwise. now i'm thinking ... i would like to grow a beard. will still man scape .. but ... would a beard put you off. again, cleanliness and grooming are a given ... would a beard be an issue? would you fuck ... a guy with a beard? does Santa get any?

Having met I say go for a beard..at the least it would be a fun update that you could always quickly change back.
As for p411, I prefer it because of the reasons already listed..I like to get a feel for a guy if possible before we meet so I can make our time together as exciting and memorable as possible
..but I understand your hesitation..less and less people are using it which is a darn shame.
.02<< I'll just leave this here

I pay attention to facial hair during booking only so I know what to look for when you come knocking on my door. It makes no difference in whether or not I see you.

I prefer clients with P411 accounts. The okays are visible to other providers, and I enjoy the public and mutual accountability for our Okays. Okays don't completely replace the need to get a current reference, and clients can always change no matter the number of okays, but the incentive is there for a provider to only give the Okay if you actually are okay, and okays can always be changed if a client does.

In addition, okays are simpler to get and more reliable than reviews, so I get a better idea of what kinds of ladies you typically see, which helps me know what you're looking for (we all have big butts, or long hair, or tattoos, or perhaps, we're all incredibly varied because you like everything, etc.).

If I haven't met you already, I give preference to P411 requests.

If we are looking for the best method of self-management in our community, especially as far as public perception is concerned, P411 is a great step in the right direction. I'm compelled to use it because I get great clients there, and it's in line with my political motivations. Hobby boards tend to get overrun by certain types who like to think of themselves as important or even necessary for the proper containment of the hobby, but in civilized parts of the world this is completely legal labor, and what eases legislators into legalization is the idea that we get to run our own business and bodies. The more overt the male control, the more negative attention the hobby gets. I don't want to give any recent events any more attention, but look around and look beyond your own money shots for a minute, guys, and start thinking about what's best for your own self preservation, because it turns out it's best for all of us.

... Originally Posted by BiancaBonVivan said:

... some interesting and helpful stuff .... thank you

I really do not think it matters but I could see why for some i would matter...
I noticed they ask that along with many other questions but as far as me...
no biggie... Whatever suits you...

I don't like beards. Short facial hair or closely trimmed. 5 O Clock Shadow okay, BUT I don't care for big beards or Porno staches.

I pay attention to facial hair during booking only so I know what to look for when you come knocking on my door. It makes no difference in whether or not I see you.

I prefer clients with P411 accounts. The okays are visible to other providers, and I enjoy the public and mutual accountability for our Okays. Okays don't completely replace the need to get a current reference, and clients can always change no matter the number of okays, but the incentive is there for a provider to only give the Okay if you actually are okay, and okays can always be changed if a client does.

In addition, okays are simpler to get and more reliable than reviews, so I get a better idea of what kinds of ladies you typically see, which helps me know what you're looking for (we all have big butts, or long hair, or tattoos, or perhaps, we're all incredibly varied because you like everything, etc.).

If I haven't met you already, I give preference to P411 requests.

If we are looking for the best method of self-management in our community, especially as far as public perception is concerned, P411 is a great step in the right direction. I'm compelled to use it because I get great clients there, and it's in line with my political motivations. Hobby boards tend to get overrun by certain types who like to think of themselves as important or even necessary for the proper containment of the hobby, but in civilized parts of the world this is completely legal labor, and what eases legislators into legalization is the idea that we get to run our own business and bodies. The more overt the male control, the more negative attention the hobby gets. I don't want to give any recent events any more attention, but look around and look beyond your own money shots for a minute, guys, and start thinking about what's best for your own self preservation, because it turns out it's best for all of us. Originally Posted by BiancaBonVivant

+1. I'm being lazy today. But yeah. What you said!

I don't like beards. ...., BUT I don't care for big beards Originally Posted by Scarlett De Rossi

our first fight? no love for santa or jesus?

our first fight? no love for santa or jesus? Originally Posted by dodger

P411 is also great if you travel a lot (like me lately). Now with regards to facial hair, I'm sure lots of the ladies love Santa and Jesus - but doubt many want to fuck them or suck their dicks.

And damn, Bianca's mind is as sexy as her body!

There's no way Santa's not stuffing some stockings on the side. I assure you he's eatin more than milk & cookies. Beard, no beard, dirty red velvet pimp suit...it don't matter. That fat fuck is bangin the hotties cuz he's got a sackful of presents and he makes it rain wherever he goes.


I think p411 has served me well. I have NEVER been asked to provide a reference. Booking with someone I've never seen, and traveling gals, has been hitch free and quick. I can't see how that's not worth the annual fee.

As for the profile, I have never found any evidence in any session that my likes or profile were ever read or taken into account.

P411 has been worth every penny for me. I've been a member for a long time and bought lifetime membership when they first made it available a couple of years ago.

Easy to book, nonexistent screening hassles, great for seeing traveling girls who may not advertise on Eccie.

Probably 75% of the ladies I see never click on my profile (I have the notification turned on) so I'm not sure how much profiles matter, but I don't specifically request that the read it either so I guess it's nice that it's available for use if people value it.

Also, the ladies love a neckbeard

Love it!

I prefer P411 for some of the reasons pertaining to ease and safety that some have already mentioned. As for facial hair grooming, I love a good beard! Beards that are nice and full really get me going. Once a beard crosses over into hipster/old timey territory, I'm not here for it..




via World Beard Championships

Goatees up your 'sexy quotient' x 10, in my book.
If you do have facial hair, PLEASE trim your mustache so it doesn't grow over your top lip and stab either of my lips. Thank ya muchly.

+1 carry the 2.