is P411 still safe?

I've heard from a buddy of mine that some provider accounts have been seized by the cops. And that they're using those accounts to bait guys.
That could be true on ANY site. P411 might have zero knowledge of it. The site is fine. Its the providers who you have to worry about.

The site is based in Spain now, so good luck local or even federal LE gaining control of the site.
LustyBustyGina38FF's Avatar
And some male members have shared act's.

No site is 100% safe.
cowboyesfan's Avatar
That could be true on ANY site. P411 might have zero knowledge of it. The site is fine. Its the providers who you have to worry about.

The site is based in Spain now, so good luck local or even federal LE gaining control of the site. Originally Posted by oldbutstillgoing
I think P411 is aware.
When providers start calling out of the Blue, that is when my radar turns on.
TexTushHog's Avatar
Is there any evidence it has been compromised? Random rumors, from unknown sources, don’t cut much mustard with me.
I don't see it being infiltrated by LE through seized accounts. I believe they make providers confirm identify periodically and feel they watch it closely. They would seize it outright and shut it down before they would work from within it.

Now that we are on P411 topic, and I have made the comment before, prices are out of control. It's like the minimum for an hour in DFW is $700 - $1000. Maybe some are getting that, I just can't see all of the ones demanding that staying busy. Probably would see 2plus providers a week at $400-500 vs. one provider a week at $700. Something about paying that much just seems a bit HIGH
I don't see it being infiltrated by LE through seized accounts. I believe they make providers confirm identify periodically and feel they watch it closely. They would seize it outright and shut it down before they would work from within it.....) Originally Posted by TXSUN55000
Again, it's in Spain. Local LE is NOT going to gain control of the site. They may/do have phony accounts and probably compromised accounts of some providers but not control of the site
LadyAnastasia's Avatar
p411 has always been a great way to keep your references together, that is honestly what I am looking at on a p411 profile. When it is filled out, the profile does wonders as far as helping me plan a good visit.

Sadly, there are guys that share profiles, it's a little obvious when the profile says 6'2 but we are the same height.
KellyKiss's Avatar
Agreed no site is 100% safe. Just make sure you’re screening as well.
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  • 11-09-2023, 11:32 AM
Agreed no site is 100% safe. Just make sure you’re screening as well. Originally Posted by KellyKiss
That's how you get busted, nothing in the hobby is 100%
Wile E Coyote's Avatar
P411 is not what it used to be when Gina was running the site, but given the screening tools that are out there for the ladies, it is simple in that a provider can see who has actually see that client BCD and has given a potential client for her an OK as apposed to listening to providers who have not seen the client or even other guys to make a decision to see him or not.
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Is there any evidence it has been compromised? Random rumors, from unknown sources, don’t cut much mustard with me. Originally Posted by TexTushHog
TTH has the winning post in this thread.

On any social site there's a complete difference between site operations and member accounts.

Every site has members that lose access to their profiles and there's a zillion reasons. My fav is someone dropping their handheld into the thing that flushes.

Every site has procedures to try resolve these events.
Every site will freeze an account if there's unusual activity.
Do I need to go on?

Last, as the gals have posted above, everyone, guys and gals, are responsible for their own screening.
Big b.o.b.1's Avatar
I canceled mine but good comments here
Wile E Coyote's Avatar
And some male members have shared act's.

No site is 100% safe. Originally Posted by LustyBustyGina38FF
So how many guys have you seen or not seen, whatever the case may be, because those two different guys had the same exact p411 account, the same account number, same profile info and dumb enough to contact you (obviously from two different cell numbers) to try to see you recently close to one another that you would remember that? Or do you save info indefinitely, something that guys who see you for sessions need to be aware of?

Yes, no site is 100% safe, but from my experience, it has saved me lots of headaches when trying to see providers who want real references from providers who I have actually seen BCD rather than relying on hear say and other means by which to screen. Sure, there was plenty of times I was one and done with providers who I received an OK from, but I was respectful of their time and person, had excellent hygiene and paid their advertised donation. Getting an extra tip above donation rate, her having an orgasm and being personally compatible is not required to receive an OK from a provider, that is why it is called role playing or IOP for the whopping hour or less a provider spends with a guy!