Only one side has guns. It would be short and bloody.
https://hotair.com/archives/2018/12/...ialist-agenda/
This is a good history lesson.
- Jackie S
- 02-23-2019, 12:36 PM
- dilbert firestorm
- 02-23-2019, 12:45 PM
+1
- winn dixie
- 02-23-2019, 12:46 PM
Libs always say it can't happen here! Also they love saying, you can trust the govt! Like i always say! The second protects all the others!
- Jackie S
- 02-23-2019, 02:04 PM
Libs always say it can't happen here! Also they love saying, you can trust the govt! Like i always say! The second protects all the others! Originally Posted by winn dixieOf course, the Polititians on both side of the isle say that it can never happen here. We are a Government of the People, for the People, and by the People.
So is, or was, Venezuela. Untill this happened.
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Alexander_Fraser_Tytler
We are pretty close to this.
Keep in mind, all of the powers that Hugo Chavez garnered were given to him by the voters. Madura is living off of that same business plan.
- oeb11
- 02-23-2019, 04:50 PM
Agree with all posters
Thank You!!
Thank You!!
- dilbert firestorm
- 02-23-2019, 07:43 PM
2 dead, 14 injured after Venezuela soldiers fire at civilians near border with Brazil
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...zil/ar-BBTXT6H
In another Twitter post, De Grazia also confirmed that the indigenous community in the area was detaining National Guard General Jose Miguel Montoya, who is accused of commanding "the tragic assault."
Versions of the incident published on social media had previously reported that some soldiers were being held by representatives of the Pemon ethnic group, and that they requested the presence of Defense Minister Vladimir Padrino Lopez.
I suspect that those people had help with some soldiers who switched sides.
in another report, an aid convoy broke thru the blockade when 4 soldiers defected to brazil at a another part of the border.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...zil/ar-BBTXT6H
In another Twitter post, De Grazia also confirmed that the indigenous community in the area was detaining National Guard General Jose Miguel Montoya, who is accused of commanding "the tragic assault."
Versions of the incident published on social media had previously reported that some soldiers were being held by representatives of the Pemon ethnic group, and that they requested the presence of Defense Minister Vladimir Padrino Lopez.
I suspect that those people had help with some soldiers who switched sides.
in another report, an aid convoy broke thru the blockade when 4 soldiers defected to brazil at a another part of the border.
- themystic
- 02-23-2019, 07:48 PM
All the talk about how bad it is in America. This aint shit. Today is worse than the Civil War? Today is worse than WWII? Not even close. Hell 1968 was worse than today
Der Fuhrer Jr came and he will go. You Nazis on the right enjoy this apostrophe in time. It will all be over soon
Der Fuhrer Jr came and he will go. You Nazis on the right enjoy this apostrophe in time. It will all be over soon
- Jackie S
- 02-23-2019, 08:02 PM
All the talk about how bad it is in America. This aint shit. Today is worse than the Civil War? Today is worse than WWII? Not even close. Hell 1968 was worse than todayWhat does this post have to do with Venezuela morphing into a Socialist Thugocracy?
Der Fuhrer Jr came and he will go. You Nazis on the right enjoy this apostrophe in time. It will all be over soon Originally Posted by themystic
- themystic
- 02-23-2019, 08:09 PM
- bb1961
- 02-24-2019, 12:37 AM
All the talk about how bad it is in America. This aint shit. Today is worse than the Civil War? Today is worse than WWII? Not even close. Hell 1968 was worse than todayAs always...YOU HAVE SAID NOTHING in regards to the topic of the thread!!
Der Fuhrer Jr came and he will go. You Nazis on the right enjoy this apostrophe in time. It will all be over soon Originally Posted by themystic
We talking about the social paradise...VENEZUELA...please feel free to add your Utopian experiences
P.S. Please don't let the crickets drown you out
- bambino
- 02-24-2019, 05:45 AM
We should send the Democratic POTUS candidates down there to set up a new government. And AOC too
- LexusLover
- 02-24-2019, 07:47 AM
- oeb11
- 02-24-2019, 09:54 AM
Venezuela is a Case Study for What Can Happen to a Disarmed Population
by Jordan Michaels on December 26, 2018
https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/v...ed-population/
Venezuela’s 2012 Disarmament Law banned the private ownership of firearms, and now, according to a new report, its citizens are beginning to realize how gun rights could have kept crime and government tyranny at bay.
“Guns would have served as a vital pillar to remaining a free people, or at least able to put up a fight,” Javier Vanegas, a Venezuelan teacher of English now exiled in Ecuador, told Fox News. “The government security forces, at the beginning of this debacle, knew they had no real opposition to their force. Once things were this bad, it was a clear declaration of war against an unarmed population.”
Under then-President Hugo Chavez, the “Control of Arms, Munitions and Disarmament Law” took effect in 2013 and banned the legal commercial sale of guns and munitions to all except government entities. Only 37 firearms were voluntarily surrendered, and over 12,500 were confiscated by force, which represents a small percentage of the country’s estimated one to six million firearms.
But banning law-abiding citizens from firearms ownership has meant that the only entities with access to guns are criminal organizations, some of which, known as “colectivos,” act as proxies for government forces to stamp down pro-democracy opposition.
“They were set up by the government to act as proxies and exert community control. They’re the guys on the motorcycles in the poor neighborhoods, who killed any protesters,” Vanessa Neumann, the Venezuelan-American president and founder of Asymmetrica, a Washington, D.C.-based political risk research and consulting firm, told Fox. “The gun reform policy of the government was about social control. As the citizenry got more desperate and hungry and angry with the political situation, they did not want them to be able to defend themselves. It was not about security; it was about a monopoly on violence and social control.”
Now Venezuelan citizens are beginning to regret surrendering their right to own a firearm.
“Venezuelans didn’t care enough about it. The idea of having the means to protect your home was seen as only needed out in the fields. People never would have believed they needed to defend themselves against the government,” Vanegas continued. “Venezuelans evolved to always hope that our government would be non-tyrannical, non-violator of human rights, and would always have a good enough control of criminality.”
Another man, Eduardo Espinel, fled the country due to the rising threat of kidnapping. He told Fox News that “everyone else but the common citizen” has access to a firearm.
“This law asks for the disarming of the common people, but everyone else can carry,” Espinel said. “The kind of law might make sense in a normal country, but in Venezuela, it makes no sense. People are faced with crime and have no easy means to defend themselves.”
Maribel Arias, who also fled the country two years ago with her husband and four children, expressed a similar concern.
“The people of Venezuela should have rights for gun carrying because there is just too much crime and people should have the right to defend themselves because the justice system is not working,” Arias asserted. “If you call the police, the police come only if they want. If they capture the criminal maybe they will take away whatever they stole, but they normally go free again. It’s a vicious cycle.”
Venezuela’s leaders deny the country’s economic collapse, exploding violence, and human rights violations. Instead, they blame the United States and opposition leaders for waging an “economic war.”
Chavez took the step to disarm his people in 2013.
The results of the DPST takeover are clear.
Bernie and his ilk should go live under Maduro.
He lived his honeymoon in the USSR - the Russian stooge is Bernie - Not Trump!
by Jordan Michaels on December 26, 2018
https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/v...ed-population/
Venezuela’s 2012 Disarmament Law banned the private ownership of firearms, and now, according to a new report, its citizens are beginning to realize how gun rights could have kept crime and government tyranny at bay.
“Guns would have served as a vital pillar to remaining a free people, or at least able to put up a fight,” Javier Vanegas, a Venezuelan teacher of English now exiled in Ecuador, told Fox News. “The government security forces, at the beginning of this debacle, knew they had no real opposition to their force. Once things were this bad, it was a clear declaration of war against an unarmed population.”
Under then-President Hugo Chavez, the “Control of Arms, Munitions and Disarmament Law” took effect in 2013 and banned the legal commercial sale of guns and munitions to all except government entities. Only 37 firearms were voluntarily surrendered, and over 12,500 were confiscated by force, which represents a small percentage of the country’s estimated one to six million firearms.
But banning law-abiding citizens from firearms ownership has meant that the only entities with access to guns are criminal organizations, some of which, known as “colectivos,” act as proxies for government forces to stamp down pro-democracy opposition.
“They were set up by the government to act as proxies and exert community control. They’re the guys on the motorcycles in the poor neighborhoods, who killed any protesters,” Vanessa Neumann, the Venezuelan-American president and founder of Asymmetrica, a Washington, D.C.-based political risk research and consulting firm, told Fox. “The gun reform policy of the government was about social control. As the citizenry got more desperate and hungry and angry with the political situation, they did not want them to be able to defend themselves. It was not about security; it was about a monopoly on violence and social control.”
Now Venezuelan citizens are beginning to regret surrendering their right to own a firearm.
“Venezuelans didn’t care enough about it. The idea of having the means to protect your home was seen as only needed out in the fields. People never would have believed they needed to defend themselves against the government,” Vanegas continued. “Venezuelans evolved to always hope that our government would be non-tyrannical, non-violator of human rights, and would always have a good enough control of criminality.”
Another man, Eduardo Espinel, fled the country due to the rising threat of kidnapping. He told Fox News that “everyone else but the common citizen” has access to a firearm.
“This law asks for the disarming of the common people, but everyone else can carry,” Espinel said. “The kind of law might make sense in a normal country, but in Venezuela, it makes no sense. People are faced with crime and have no easy means to defend themselves.”
Maribel Arias, who also fled the country two years ago with her husband and four children, expressed a similar concern.
“The people of Venezuela should have rights for gun carrying because there is just too much crime and people should have the right to defend themselves because the justice system is not working,” Arias asserted. “If you call the police, the police come only if they want. If they capture the criminal maybe they will take away whatever they stole, but they normally go free again. It’s a vicious cycle.”
Venezuela’s leaders deny the country’s economic collapse, exploding violence, and human rights violations. Instead, they blame the United States and opposition leaders for waging an “economic war.”
Chavez took the step to disarm his people in 2013.
The results of the DPST takeover are clear.
Bernie and his ilk should go live under Maduro.
He lived his honeymoon in the USSR - the Russian stooge is Bernie - Not Trump!
- Yssup Rider
- 02-24-2019, 10:14 AM
Gotta love gunsamerica.com
And your broad use of such derogatory and perjorative terms is out of line, but so Trumpian.
Divide and insult.
And your broad use of such derogatory and perjorative terms is out of line, but so Trumpian.
Divide and insult.
- oeb11
- 02-24-2019, 10:21 AM
Thank you - TR/TM/SC - the term is "pejorative".
Topic is civil war in the Venezuelan Worker's Paradise under the DPST hero Maduro!
Chuckle !
Topic is civil war in the Venezuelan Worker's Paradise under the DPST hero Maduro!
Chuckle !