NCNS Forum and Template?

I recently had to post a NCNS. My local mod, for the time being, wants these in the alert section for our region, so I followed his lead but a few other members pointed out that the current menu explanation at the top of the alert section does not really fit with a NCNS, and that seems to be a valid point.

It made me wonder if we might want to consider making a dedicated NCNS section?

This might make information management and research easier for users. We all hope there are not so many NCNS events that it would require such an effort, but maybe it would be helpful.

I also got to thinking a standard template similar to a review template might help keep the facts straight and cut down on the drama/diatribes that such threads often leave in their wake. If things are more standardized, more folks might utilize these research tools.

Perhaps it could look something like this:

Date:
Provider:
Phone:
Email Address:
URL / Website:
City:
State:
Appointment Type:
Quoted Fee:
Planned Session Length:

Did you meet and correspond with her on ECCIE or someplace else?

Did you fully clear the provider's screening process and were you given an exact location and time, or was this more of a session query/trip tease that the provider failed to follow through on?

Briefly describe the amount and quality of communication leading up to the booking?

How much notice, if any, did the provider give you before dropping the appointment?

Was a reasonable explanation offered for the dropped appointment?

Did the provider offer to make up the dropped session?

Other than the inconvenience, did this missed appointment result in additional travel or hotel expense (ie you paid for a hotel just for this expense or make a long--over forty miles--trip just to see this provider?

Is there anything else that needs to be noted about this dropped appointment?

Something like that might help keep things organized. It also occurs to me that the language could be tweaked so that clients can use the template to report no shows, or providers could also use it to report clients that don't show up for booked sessions, in all fairness.

Perhaps some consideration could also go into how to handle the follow-up posts in response to the initial report. On one level, perhaps it is wise to simply limit it to one response form the provider and a rebuttal from the client (borrowed that idea from eBay feedback system). Sometimes other individuals do have useful information to add, but more times than not we have seen threads spiral out of control by opening the responses up to everyone, whether that be from WK's, BK's or folks that just like to stir drama. A mod can always come in and put the clamps down on such spiraling threads, but why make even more work for them?

These are just some initial thoughts. If it is decided to give something like this a whirl in a future upgrade, there is plenty of room for improving the idea. It just happened to me, so I thought I would throw the idea out there while it is fresh in mind.

Even the acronym NCNS, might need to be adjusted. Perhaps MISSED SESSION REPORT would be a better way of describing it.

I know some ladies will be outraged by the suggestion, but I don't have a problem with it, as long as the same format can be utilized by providers, as you suggested, for NCNS clients. So as I understand it, ALL the info would be visible, unlike a review? Reviews are allowed to have as many responses as gentlemen (and white knights and drama kings) want to make to BCD, but not sure that it would be fair to limit respondents to one post of explanation in a public NCNS area. It may create even more turmoil than a negative review since it will be open to both sides of the story, and sorry, it will undoubtedly be more hassle for the already unappreciated mods, and you'll have to have both male and female mods if both client and provider missed sessions are lumped into one place.

We could call the forum "Blow Offs." Just have to make it clear that it's not an advertising sections for oral services.

I recently had to post a NCNS. My local mod, for the time being, wants these in the alert section for our region, so I followed his lead but a few other members pointed out that the current menu explanation at the top of the alert section does not really fit with a NCNS, and that seems to be a valid point. Originally Posted by ANONONE

I would like to know why the Mod in your area chose to put such things in a place that is clearly not intended for them. NCNS incidents are universally understood here as not meeting the criteria for posting in an Alert forum.

Good suggestion....as long as this can go "both ways".

Would you be upset if a lady could post the same information?

I know some ladies will be outraged by the suggestion, but I don't have a problem with it, as long as the same format can be utilized by providers, as you suggested, for NCNS clients. So as I understand it, ALL the info would be visible, unlike a review? Reviews are allowed to have as many responses as gentlemen (and white knights and drama kings) want to make to BCD, but not sure that it would be fair to limit respondents to one post of explanation in a public NCNS area. It may create even more turmoil than a negative review since it will be open to both sides of the story, and sorry, it will undoubtedly be more hassle for the already unappreciated mods, and you'll have to have both male and female mods if both client and provider missed sessions are lumped into one place.

We could call the forum "Blow Offs." Just have to make it clear that it's not an advertising sections for oral services. Originally Posted by Fancyinheels

Like I said, the idea does need some work, but I think it worth trying out if it helps getting both providers and clients to show up to the appointments they make. I also think it would be a very valuable research tool for both clients and providers. Obviously things happen, so if there is only one or two Missed Session Reports (MSR) for a given provider or client, you chalk it up to "life happens." You can even track the response, such as the person being apologetic and resolving the issue quickly. If you see a long list of MSR for a given provider or client, then you can see the pattern and realize there is more you need to consider, or if you push forward, you do so at your own risk knowing there is a high probability for failure.

I would like to know why the Mod in your area chose to put such things in a place that is clearly not intended for them. NCNS incidents are universally understood here as not meeting the criteria for posting in an Alert forum. Originally Posted by Mokoa

No idea--you would have to ask John Bull. He is a pretty smart guy, so I am sure he has his reasons. He moved one I wrote earlier on his own, then I followed suit with the second one. Maybe he is just parking them there for the time being while making a decision where they will ultimately go?

Good suggestion....as long as this can go "both ways".

Would you be upset if a lady could post the same information? Originally Posted by DarthMaul

I would not mind it at all. I show up to my appointments. If something weird happens that would cause me to be tardy, or miss an appointment, you can bet I will do everything I can to notify ASAP and I would go the extra step to make up for the missed or late appointment.

Good idea but I don't think its really necessary. IMO that is what our coed and private areas are for. If someone feels inclined to report a NCNS, you can do so without a template. It seems to be more "work" for both sides of the fence. Why create more work than needed?

sixx

I think it is a good idea as long as it works both ways.

I like the idea, and I'm fine with it working both ways as long as the male version does not have phone # posted.

It seems to be more "work" for both sides of the fence. Why create more work than needed?

sixx Originally Posted by sixxbach

I don't know. . .

Since my original post, as a casual observer I have seen six different "no-show" reviews/post all using different formats or approaches, including some that were admonished by a mod as being in the incorrect format or placed in the wrong thread location.

It seems to me, something more standardized is needed to reduce the work for both members and mods.

Even if my idea doesn't work, it is becoming fairly clear that some type of central place and template is needed for missed appointments (whether we call them NCNS or come up with a different term) that both providers and hobbyists can use.

I think it would streamline research for both parties, and in the end, having a structured template of some type in a specific place would actually reduce the staff workload, once folks got used to it.

It might enhance the site and be yet another example of why this is the best research site in the country.