IG Horowitz Report Is Devastating - Here Are the Cliff Notes

You know it's bad when it drives both Jim Comey and Adam Schiff to appear on FOX News Sunday. Both lied and pathetically failed in their efforts at damage control.

Fucking Comey pretended to take responsibility, then tried to minimize it all as mere "sloppiness" while he threw the rest of the FBI under the bus. Now that's a real stand-up guy!

Then Shifty Schiff lied and pretended he didn't know two years ago what the IG just told us. Gee, that's odd. It was all contained in that February 2018 Devin Nunes memo he worked so hard to suppress!

Liar, liar pants on fire!


‘Multiple Levels of Hearsay Upon Hearsay’

What the media doesn’t want you to know about the Horowitz report.

By David J. Garrow
Dec. 15, 2019 2:52 pm ET

Most news coverage of the Horowitz report has minimized or ignored its most devastating aspects. Granted, the inspector general’s account doesn’t make for easy reading. It’s repetitive to a fault, and its insistent use of vague identifiers—“Case Agent 1,” “Supervisory Intel Analyst,” “Primary Sub-source”—rather than names makes its narrative insistently soporific.

Then again, many journalists seem determined not to explain how the report vitiates the “Steele dossier” and discredits its author, Christopher Steele, a former British spy who peddled third-hand hearsay to gullible paymasters at both the opposition-research firm Fusion GPS and the Federal Bureau of Investigation. With a few exceptions, journalists have eagerly embraced former FBI Director James Comey and former Deputy Director Andrew McCabe as guardians of democracy rather than culpable apologists for dire threats to Americans’ civil liberties.

Every American who cares about civil liberties should peruse at least pages 186-93, wherein the inspector general’s staff shreds the Steele dossier piece by piece and indicts the bureau’s reliance on visibly shoddy work that any unbiased intelligence professional would have quickly discarded.

Mr. Steele confessed in a 2016 FBI interview that one of his top two sources was a “boaster” and “egotist” who “may engage in some embellishment” (page 110). Mr. Steele had asserted to interviewing agents that this person—whom he variously called “Source D,” “Source E,” a Trump “associate” and “Person 1”; we’ll go with P1 for short—was the source for both the dossier’s most salacious claims about Donald Trump and the information on which the FBI relied to obtain a warrant to spy on former campaign aide Carter Page.

Yet Mr. Steele’s “Primary Sub-source”—we’ll abbreviate that to PSS—contradicted those claims, telling the FBI that P1 didn’t furnish any salacious information. Mr. Steele claimed that PSS and P1 had met two or three times, but PSS said their only contact was a single 10- to 15-minute phone conversation.

Three FBI interviews of PSS in the first half of 2017 impeached Mr. Steele’s reporting—even as the bureau was petitioning the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to keep extending its pointless electronic surveillance of poor Mr. Page. “Steele himself was not the originating source of any of the factual information in his reporting,” the inspector general notes (page 186). The FBI’s conversations with PSS “raised significant questions” and “doubts about the reliability of Steele’s descriptions of information” that formed the basis for the ongoing surveillance of Mr. Page (186-87). PSS asserted, in the inspector general’s words, “that Steele misstated or exaggerated [PSS’s] statements in multiple sections of the reporting” (187). The salacious claims about Mr. Trump were “rumor and speculation,” offered in “jest.” What PSS had passed along to Steele “was just talk,” “word of mouth and hearsay” that PSS had acquired from “friends over beers” and which should be taken with “a grain of salt” (187-88).

Further, PSS’s statements to the FBI “revealed that Steele did not have good insight into how many degrees of separation existed between [PSS’s] sub-sources and the persons quoted in the reporting, and that it could have been multiple levels of hearsay upon hearsay,” given that the “sub-sources did not have direct access to the persons they were reporting on” (188). In late 2016, when Mr. Steele pressed PSS to corroborate the reports Mr. Steele already had distributed, PSS found “zero,” PSS told the FBI (188). By February 2017 the FBI was tardily realizing that Mr. Steele “may not be in a position to judge the reliability of his sub-source network” (188). Yet the falsely predicated surveillance of Mr. Page continued.

As agents kept probing, the truth got worse and worse. “In Steele’s September 2017 interview with the FBI, Steele also made statements that conflicted with explanations from two of his sub-sources about their access to Russian officials. For example, Steele explained that the Primary Sub-source had direct access to a particular former senior Russian government official and that they had been ‘speaking for a while.’ [PSS] told the FBI, however, that he/she had never met or spoken with the official” (192). Ouch.

Prior to the 2016 campaign, Mr. Steele had already received $95,000 from the FBI as a paid human informant reporting on Russian oligarchs. A comprehensive early 2017 review of Mr. Steele’s prior work found that it was only “minimally corroborated,” contrary to how the FBI had repeatedly vouched for their well-paid source to the FISA court (184).

The inspector general also impeaches Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson. On Nov. 14, 2017, he testified to the House Intelligence Committee that he had not met with top Justice Department attorney Bruce Ohr before the 2016 election. But the Horowitz report documents how Mr. Simpson had met with Mr. Ohr on Aug. 22, 2016, to give him the names of three supposed Russia-Trump intermediaries, one of whom was Mr. Steele’s P1.

The inspector general forcefully concludes that Mr. Steele’s shoddy reporting “played a central and essential role in the decision” by FBI and Justice Department lawyers to approve headquarters’ officials request to surveil Mr. Page (359). The report also extensively details how “Source 2”—about whom enough clues are given to identify him as longtime paid FBI informant Stefan Halper —repeatedly wore a wire while pretending to befriend Mr. Page, fellow Trump volunteer George Papadopoulos, and Trump campaign official Sam Clovis —all at the FBI’s express behest.

Mr. Horowitz seems nonplussed that such intrusive electronic surveillance of American citizens required no approval from a judge or even Justice Department headquarters. But his report is oddly and totally silent about how the FBI also deployed “UCEs”—undercover government employees—against both Messrs. Papadopoulos and Page. Mr. Papadopoulos has publicly detailed how one UCE, a flirtatious woman posing as Mr. Halper’s assistant and using the pseudonym “Azra Turk, ” sought to befriend him. But for undisclosed reasons the inspector general has nothing to say about this further abuse of unchecked FBI targeting of American citizens.

The Horowitz report is a document of landmark historical importance, but more questions remain.

Mr. Garrow’s books include “The FBI and Martin Luther King, Jr.,” “Bearing the Cross” and “Rising Star: The Making of Barack Obama.”


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thing is, all the spied upon Folks went to jail, except for Page, so the Republicans hold him up as a symbol of injustice.

kind of like your stupid Little-League kid who strikes out 20 times in a row, then reaches first on an error, after a chopper to shortstop. he celebrates his "hit" as if he's a 400 hitter.

Jim Comey is a SAC, (Sorry Ass Cop).

thing is, all the spied upon Folks went to jail, except for Page, so the Republicans hold him up as a symbol of injustice.

kind of like your stupid Little-League kid who strikes out 20 times in a row, then reaches first on an error, after a chopper to shortstop. he celebrates his "hit" as if he's a 400 hitter. Originally Posted by Chung Tran

let's see who goes to jail after "Bull" Durham has his day ..

thing is, all the spied upon Folks went to jail, except for Page, so the Republicans hold him up as a symbol of injustice.

kind of like your stupid Little-League kid who strikes out 20 times in a row, then reaches first on an error, after a chopper to shortstop. he celebrates his "hit" as if he's a 400 hitter. Originally Posted by Chung Tran

Good fucking grief. You know what you call spying without a warrant? That the person ends up in jail does not invalidate the fact that you surveilled someone without a warrant if that is indeed the case here.



Don't worry, this isn't over yet IF a crime was committed John Durham will tell us all about it.

thing is, all the spied upon Folks went to jail, except for Page, so the Republicans hold him up as a symbol of injustice. Originally Posted by Chung Tran

Huh? Page is the only one they got a FISA warrant to spy on.

Read the last 2 paragraphs of my OP. The FBI also spied on Papadopoulos and Sam Clovis without seeking warrants, which is even MORE outrageous. Clovis didn't go to jail and Pap spent a mere 2 weeks behind bars. How many others were spied on that we don't even know about?

thing is, you obviously have no principles you are willing to defend for ALL Americans, whether they are Republican or Democrat.

If the system was abused in this way to spy on and ruin Democrats, you would be screaming foul. When it happens to Republicans you shrug it off as nothing.

You're a fucking hypocrite who has no principles.

Huh? Page is the only one they got a FISA warrant to spy on.

Read the last 2 paragraphs of my OP. The FBI also spied on Papadopoulos and Sam Clovis without seeking warrants, which is even MORE outrageous. Clovis didn't go to jail and Pap spent a mere 2 weeks behind bars. How many others were spied on that we don't even know about?

thing is, you obviously have no principles you are willing to defend for ALL Americans, whether they are Republican or Democrat.

If the system was abused in this way to spy on and ruin Democrats, you would be screaming foul. When it happens to Republicans you shrug it off as nothing.

You're a fucking hypocrites who has no principles. Originally Posted by lustylad

Chung is dumber than a rock. He doesn’t even know that Page was was the only person under FISA approved surveillance. A fraudulent warrant at that. He was never charged with a crime. What a dumbfuck.

Good fucking grief. You know what you call spying without a warrant? That the person ends up in jail does not invalidate the fact that you surveilled someone without a warrant if that is indeed the case here. Originally Posted by HedonistForever

Actually the problem is they lied, omitted key facts and misled the FISA Court to get the 4 "legal" warrants to spy on Page.

They also spied on others without warrants, by paying informants to wear wires and by hiring attractive women to flirt with American citizens simply because they were loosely connected with the Trump campaign and might give up useful "pillow talk" intel.

And all for what purpose?

To stop a terrorist attack? NOPE!!

To infiltrate the mafia? NOPE!!

It was to spy on one of our two major political parties in the midst of a Presidential election!!

This is deep state corruption at its most egregious!!

He’ll be fresh meat in the bathhouse at Club Fed, eh?

He’ll be fresh meat in the bathhouse at Club Fed, eh? Originally Posted by HoeHummer

You would have firsthand experience with that.

Actually the problem is they lied, omitted key facts and misled the FISA Court to get the 4 "legal" warrants to spy on Page.

They also spied on others without warrants, by paying informants to wear wires and by hiring attractive women to flirt with American citizens simply because they were loosely connected with the Trump campaign and might give up useful "pillow talk" intel.

And all for what purpose?

To stop a terrorist attack? NOPE!!

To infiltrate the mafia? NOPE!!

It was to spy on one of our two major political parties in the midst of a Presidential election!!

This is deep state corruption at its most egregious!! Originally Posted by lustylad

Watching Fox news, I knew all this years ago but I think this just might turn out even worse than I thought. I thought just embarrassing these fools would be all that happens. Now Somebody more than Klinesmith is going to end up in the pokey.


And the real funny part! This news is breaking before the vote tomorrow that Trump is the problem with Obstruction. I mean how funny is this.

thing is, all the spied upon Folks went to jail, except for Page, so the Republicans hold him up as a symbol of injustice.

kind of like your stupid Little-League kid who strikes out 20 times in a row, then reaches first on an error, after a chopper to shortstop. he celebrates his "hit" as if he's a 400 hitter. Originally Posted by Chung Tran

I take it you've never seen an episode of Law and Order, Matlock, or Perry Mason. All of the people illegally under surveillance (don't say spying) got convicted of things having nothing to do with the election or the Russians.

I take it you've never seen an episode of Law and Order, Matlock, or Perry Mason. All of the people illegally under surveillance (don't say spying) got convicted of things having nothing to do with the election or the Russians. Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn

Those people mostly got convicted for lying to the liars. Wait...

Rule of law ? Liars the fat lady is gonna sing

let's see who goes to jail after "Bull" Durham has his day .. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

The list should be long and distinguished,lol.