Out of the hobby by far. It has nothing to do with the money but there is no provider (that I have seen) that can give you the closeness you get from a woman who wants to make love to you because she is genuinely attracted to you, however, I have also had my worst experiences outside the hobby... Originally Posted by SkirtChaserI agree with both points here. Having a woman actually desire you is pretty damn amazing. That's why I prefer the gfe when I'm hobbying. On the other side of that coin, there's a lot of shit you have to deal with when that emotional connection is there that the hobby gloriously let's us avoid.