Politics anyone,,this could get very ugly—Should Donald Trump be impeached? Should Bill Clinton have been impeached? Was the Russians the reason Trump won? Do you believe the media is fake news and is motivated solely on ratings? Stock market, tax cu

Have you seen this piece by Alan Dershowitz from the other day, the path to impeachment is very narrow, I think had Hillary won the road to having her impeached was a much cleaner path, but now nobody cares what she did, Trumps got the chair and is the target, history is going to tell a story about a very corrupt political process and one man who was able to stand against it.

I would like to see Trump fire Mueller, and he has good reason to based on the direction this investigation has went, but there is a saying in politics “when the other side is digging a hole they can’t get out of, you let them keep digging”

Originally Posted by bc1969
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It's become clear to me that the few of you that have contributed to this thread are part of the Trump base that will continue to support him no matter what he has done in the past or what he says or does now as president.

Reminds me of an old adage: “A wise man changes his mind often. A fool never does.”

Don't drink the Kool-Aide...
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It's become clear to me that the few of you that have contributed to this thread are part of the Trump base that will continue to support him no matter what he has done in the past or what he says or does now as president.

Reminds me of an old adage: “A wise man changes his mind often. A fool never does.”

Don't drink the Kool-Aide... Originally Posted by Gyrojockey
Heh .......I thought you mite be fun to talk to , you was giving a good talk but given no facts.

No worries no one was drinking the Kool-aide you was putting out there .......
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One of the most profound statements made about the election of Trump was said by a stunned reporter on ABC on election night. He said that this election was the Country rejecting the story line of the Republican Party, the Democratic Party and the news media.
The people rejected everyone offered by the Republican party. Everyone offered by the Democratic party. Even most you Democrats, admit it, you would rather Bernie was the nominee! As for the media, the people were (and still are) tired of the media and its arrogance. Trump was elected simply because he wasn't one of them!
I think for one brief moment, that media guy got it! It was time for all parties that were rejected and re evaluate why they were rejected. That revelation lasted about a minute and they all went back to being the same clowns they were before the election. Think I'm wrong? Trumps approval rating is something like 35 percent. Congress has a approval rating down in the teens! The media is around 25 percent. Now, another result of this last election was that nobody should trust the polls. Still the simple fact is this. No matter how low Trumpa approval is, he is still considered better than them!
I'm pretty sure a number will disagree with me, but one thing most of us can agree with is this. Most of the clowns in politics today, just need to go away!
There will always be a demonstrable need to support those who can't support themselves due to various hardships, but you simply can't confiscate what the American people have worked to achieve and give it to those who make no effort to improve their social or economic condition other than to sit back and collect with a sense of entitlement like a greedy brat in Willy Wonka's candy factory. The rich will always find a way to charge more for their "service" -- the gap between rich & poor will continue to grow. Regardless, you can't continue to spend what you don't have. Sooner or later, the debtor will have to pay back what is owed. I for one, am tired of pushing it off to our future generations. Both parties make promises we can no longer afford, and pad the voter rolls with electors with ears itching for more than any nation can support. Time to pay the piper while we still have a nation we can call our own.
The Trump base are a very informed group of people and all Americans should be happy that we finally have a voice in the White House, a voice that can’t be influenced by contributions or insider trading deals or politics as usual. Did you know that Trump donates his paycheck to charity, the whole thing. If a group (lobbyist) come to him trying to influence a particular piece of legislation (for example, if what these lobbyist are offering is not good for Americans then it’s a no deal—he shows them the door. Even if you like politics as usual, you can’t make an argument that what he stands for is deplorable. On the other hand, Clinton supporters are a very uninformed group, and mostly single issue voters—(for example, she’s a female or she supports open boarders or she’s been in politics her whole life or women’s right to choose or government assistance programs,,,these government assisted programs are very popular for her) the Clinton base is a very narrow minded group, it’s old politics and has nothing new to offer.

It’s been obvious since the Bill Clinton era that voters really don’t care about how a president conducts himself with women, the First Lady don’t care either

And what Hermosa said, I remember that moment very well, the reporter nailed it, trump and his supporters have not forgetten why we are here and why his followers are so loyal. Seems the establishment (Dems and Republicans) are still trying to figure out how we the people, the voters got involved and screwed up this election.
Not democrats, but these are the dumb Hillary supporters—or better known as the trump protesters, (referred to as “millennials”) or even better known as a group of people that found something to do one evening that was fun. Should the right to vote be easier then getting a drivers license?

Kappin, an earlier poster in this thread I think is one of these people, js

bc's a clown... nuff said.
I understand that low testosterone levels are difficult to live with, but I want to know how are you doing,,,underwear, boxers, or panties?

Are you and gyrojockey friends?
I agree that the video you posted is scary.

But, i'm unsure how you thought that kappin and i are friends.

And i also dont see the diffefence begween Trump's base, of which you are apparently one, and the “dumb Hillary supporters” you say are portrayed in the video you posted.

Care to enlighten me?
There are several videos out there that are really an interesting look into human behavior—they took a group of Hillary supporters and laid out her tax plan to them but they told the group that it was trumps tax plan—they all hated it—and on the flip side they laid out the trump tax plan but told the group is was Hillary’s tax plan —they all loved it—this was done with many issues facing the world economy, and the results were always the same, it was judged as a ‘who said it’ and not what was being said (of course there were several people who caught on to the double talk) I think my only problem with this behavior is that is was a group of registered voters who have and intend to in the future vote again. I would like to see a system in place that on one hand respects your right to vote but on the flip side it vets you, or qualifies you as a card carrying voter.

Now I guess the same could be said for trump voters,(we like his charisma, charm, bluntness, his ability to articulate how the rich get richer off the hard work of the middle class and insider trading deals and behind the scenes negotiations) but I don’t think so—the media will run with a story line of two comments from an hour long speech he made, there is no context, and they use that tactic and have successfully demonized trump, and that plays into their business structure, their ratings, their viewers (it’s really just for money) it plays into the crowd that only cares about ‘who said it’ and what’s being said is not important.

The proof is in the election results, Hillary had no plan for America (and that’s a fact, and it’s why she lost) but she still pulled in the popular vote,,,I call that a mystery, at least to me, I’ll never understand it.

Oh and btw, my last two post about you and kapplin ending up being in bad taste, I was attempting to in a humorous manner insult you back into the debate. Sry.
Obviously, I'm not interested in taking your bait bc... carry on Homer.
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If the OP wanted opinions why was a political thread not posted in the Political Forum?
Obviously, I'm not interested in taking your bait bc... carry on Homer. Originally Posted by kappin
The response I have to this is to just give it time—I’ll get ya sooner or later—lol
Btw, who was your guy—or girl, I’m gonna guess Rubio, and that’s not an insult, Marco Rubio loves this country and I expect he is not finished. Stand up guy.

Did you hear the rumor that Hillary Clinton does gang bang sex, (I’m not being an ass here, I remember when that came out during the primaries) I would definitely sign up for that