Actually they have put forth 17 different proposals. I can't cite the source though. Originally Posted by LovingKayla
The fallacy is that Obamacare was needed. Why replace something that was not wanted or needed. Originally Posted by The2DogsYou're even dumber than I thought if you think the current US health care system isn't completely fucked up. I have a friend who recently had a 360 degree spinal fusion in his lower back. About a 4 hour operation. You know what the surgical fee was?
Timmie you are such a lying little weasel. The GOP has put forth many alternatives but Obama didn't want to listen and Reid doesn't want to vote. Your own party is fucking you and more than allow it, you love it. Originally Posted by JD BarleycornSorry Professor, but you're the liar. All of the "alternatives" came with conditions that were never going to be acceptable to the President or the Democratic controlled senate and the republicans knew that when they made the offers. The "alternatives" were thrown out there for purely political reasons....so idiot conservabots (like you) could make the argument that idiot conservabots (like you) are making right now. The GOP knew the shutdown was going to be a political disaster for them and their silly, meaningless "offers" were designed to allow them to be able to say "Oh, look. We offered a deal to avert the disaster we are creating and Obama wouldn't take it. So, the disaster is his fault."
To say the GOP hasn't any alternatives to Obamacare is just plain ignorance.Here, I will post them for you to save you the trouble, straight from The Onion:
Tell you what TrannyTim, if i post 3 alternative ideas the GOP has will you agree to terminate this thread ? Originally Posted by Whirlaway
You're even dumber than I thought if you think the current US health care system isn't completely fucked up. I have a friend who recently had a 360 degree spinal fusion in his lower back. About a 4 hour operation. You know what the surgical fee was?First, you admitted he had insurance so the cost is not an issue for him now is it? He probably had an insurance policy that he could afford and offered co-pays and deductibles that were reasonable. Under ObaminationCare he will pay more for his policy and have higher deductibles, which means he actually would have to spend more money for the services he got. And do you think ObaminationCare is going to reduce the costs for surgeries?
$57,000.00. Mind you....that is the fee from the surgeon. It doesn't include three days in the hospital, the use of an operating room ($37,000 btw) or the three months of physical therapy he has out in front of him. We're talking about costs far north of six figures for this 4 hour operation and three days in the hospital.
You're an idiot if you think that's a system that is working. I suppose he should be grateful that he had health insurance that allowed him to get the care he needed. Millions of Americans don't. Which is sort of the point you fucking schlep. Originally Posted by timpage