There are many Biden "supporters" who are for him simply because he is not Trump.They are against Trump.Some were never Trumpers from 2016.Some are now converted never Trumpers put off by his time in office.You must acknowledge this as so.
Then there are many who prefer a more moderate president.Trump has taken us pretty far right on some things.He eschews oversite and was backed up by the Senate republicans on that.
Republicans will try to paint Biden as extremely liberal but he is not really.Now there are many fairly liberal views being touted by some Dems,mainly by House of Representatives people,but Biden will go along some in order to get elected.After that he won't be a major liberal agenda pusher.
So to answer the OP question.Vote for Biden to pull back some from the abyss that Trump has brought us to.
Trump at present is President of the United States of America.
That is all 50 states.
All cities within those states.
All people within those states.
His term is a disaster.Unemployment is terrible.The Economy is terrible.Stock market holding on but that is it.Plus the full impact economically has yet to be felt yet from Covid.His hold on the virus is non-existent.And that is central.
Trump accepts no responsibility for his failed governance.
He blames problems on "Democrat" run states,cities,and the people in them as well cause they elected democratic officials.
He is president over all this mayhem.It is his watch.
The question should be "Why would Anyone not vote for Biden ?" Originally Posted by sportfisherman
There are many Biden "supporters" who are for him simply because he is not Trump.They are against Trump.Some were never Trumpers from 2016.Some are now converted never Trumpers put off by his time in office.You must acknowledge this as so.
Then there are many who prefer a more moderate president.Trump has taken us pretty far right on some things.He eschews oversite and was backed up by the Senate republicans on that.
Republicans will try to paint Biden as extremely liberal but he is not really.Now there are many fairly liberal views being touted by some Dems,mainly by House of Representatives people,but Biden will go along some in order to get elected.After that he won't be a major liberal agenda pusher.
So to answer the OP question.Vote for Biden to pull back some from the abyss that Trump has brought us to.
Trump at present is President of the United States of America.
That is all 50 states.
All cities within those states.
All people within those states.
His term is a disaster.Unemployment is terrible.The Economy is terrible.Stock market holding on but that is it.Plus the full impact economically has yet to be felt yet from Covid.His hold on the virus is non-existent.And that is central.
Trump accepts no responsibility for his failed governance.
He blames problems on "Democrat" run states,cities,and the people in them as well cause they elected democratic officials.
He is president over all this mayhem.It is his watch.
The question should be "Why would Anyone not vote for Biden ?" Originally Posted by sportfisherman
I know there has been a virus which would have challenged any president.I do not Blame Trump for the virus itself.
What he is Responsible for is his mis-handling of it.Which has contributed to our unemployment situation,our economy,and our unprecedented debt he has bestowed on us and our children.Not to mention the medical aspect,the deaths.
I have not questioned any board posters sanity or intellect.
Taxes need raising on Corporations and the top earners who got tax breaks under Trump.Hopefully Tiny be in the middle and get a tax break instead of being fucked under Trump's deal.
I gave example in my post ; here is some more.
1.Eschewing oversite by the legislative branch.Ignoring subpoenas.Ignoring and firing Inspectors General.
Inspectors General work at the pleasure of the POTUS. Obama's people ignored subpoenas as well.
2.Interfering in the DOJ.That should be separate from the Executive.
Obama weaponized the FBI and DOJ against Trump. Trump has every right to root out the Obama leftovers that are still trying to target him.
3.Interfering in the Intel community ; the FBI,CIA,NSC,etc.Firing and re-structuring to get rid of anyone who doesn't follow Trumpism.
See above answers.
4.Interfering in the CDC and FDA.Again to get people and voices to adhere to Trump.
5.Re-directing defense department money to a border wall.
All perfectly legal.
6.More executive orders than any president in history.
Wrong. Clinton, Obama and Bush all had more EO's.
These are right wing characteristics of too much executive.You may rationalize that it is in our countries good.But it pushes Constitutional government to the side.
Too much Trump and too much Russia for me.
HRC was more in bed with the Russians than Trump ever thought of.
Biden will not snub them completely.They will choose a couple of things to pursue while other hot topics will go by the wayside.
Again Trump is president of USA.Ultimately what goes on in our cities and states is on him.Did FDR blame the Governor of Hawaii or the mayor of Honolulu for Pearl Harbor ? I don't think so.
So you somehow decided that Trump is responsible for the riots going on in the country? The democrats that run those cities are screaming bloody murder about Trump even thinking about sending in the national guard. These riots are just part of the left wing of the democratic party.
I don't want a king.I want someone that respects our form of government that has stood us well for over 200 years.
That is what you have in Trump. Someone who's loves this country.
Trump passed one thing conventionally through legislation ; his tax bill. That's it.
I am a Never Trumper ! Proud of it. Still am.
Was not and am not fooled. Originally Posted by sportfisherman