Thoughts?
I say he's in. I read an article where some famous dead politician stated "The only cure for presidential ambitions is embalming fluid."
Joe wants it, this is his last chance at it, and he senses that there are a lot of fence-sitters in relation to Hillary right now who recognize that someone who is an admitted socialist is not going to be elected POTUS and who have no other alternative to Hillary.
- timpage
- 10-19-2015, 01:23 PM
- WombRaider
- 10-19-2015, 01:30 PM
Thoughts?I think if he runs, he wins. He's going to wipe the floor in any debate with whichever republican shitbird emerges from the circus. Yes, he's got the gaffe issue, but that just means he's human.
I say he's in. I read an article where some famous dead politician stated "The only cure for presidential ambitions is embalming fluid."
Joe wants it, this is his last chance at it, and he senses that there are a lot of fence-sitters in relation to Hillary right now who recognize that someone who is an admitted socialist is not going to be elected POTUS and who have no other alternative to Hillary. Originally Posted by timpage
- Jackie S
- 10-19-2015, 02:26 PM
I have been saying for months that the VP will be getting in, and will, sooner or later, get the backing of President Obama.
The problem, he will draw a lot more votes from Hillary than from Sanders. This leaves me to believe this the Democrat Hierarchy knows that the E-mail and Bengahzi thing will sink Hillary sooner or later, with the good possibility that the FBI investigation will result in an indictment.
This will give Biden a clear path.
After that.......who knows?
The problem, he will draw a lot more votes from Hillary than from Sanders. This leaves me to believe this the Democrat Hierarchy knows that the E-mail and Bengahzi thing will sink Hillary sooner or later, with the good possibility that the FBI investigation will result in an indictment.
This will give Biden a clear path.
After that.......who knows?
- timpage
- 10-19-2015, 02:34 PM
I have been saying for months that the VP will be getting in, and will, sooner or later, get the backing of President Obama.I think he will draw votes from both. A lot of the folks who are supporting Sanders are doing so only because they are looking for some sort of alternative to HRC.
The problem, he will draw a lot more votes from Hillary than from Sanders. This leaves me to believe this the Democrat Hierarchy knows that the E-mail and Bengahzi thing will sink Hillary sooner or later, with the good possibility that the FBI investigation will result in an indictment.
This will give Biden a clear path.
After that.......who knows? Originally Posted by Jackie S
And, there is zero possibility of a criminal indictment. She'll be damaged politically (which of course is the entire goal of the "investigation") but there won't be any criminal liability, there's not even a whiff of it except in the RWW media's fevered imagination. I understand that's what the GOP is hoping for since they can offer nothing but nutty alternatives to HRC with little chance to prevail in the general election. I think Biden will be a much tougher candidate to beat than Clinton. I'm wouldn't be surprised if the RNC will launch some sort of imaginary "scandal" investigation relating to Biden if he gets into the race. It appears to be their only strategy in light of the weakness of the GOP field.
- TheDaliLama
- 10-19-2015, 03:05 PM
Biden is a Bozo. If you are a conservative wishing for Biden to run.... Warning its a double edged sword
There’s a catch-22 being discussed in both Democrat and Republican party inner circles. Joe Biden represents a love-hate gray area for both parties for the exact same reasons from opposite perspectives.
Here’s the simple truth: Joe Biden is more likely to win the general election if nominated, but if he doesn’t win the nomination he will weaken Hillary Clinton’s campaign by forcing her to spend more money and extend the primary campaign to more states.
At some point in the last few months, Joe Biden has gone from being a political punchline to somehow being seen as a statesman. He would also represent an extension of President Obama’s administration, something that rarely works but in this case it just might. Both parties realize that President Obama still maintains an approval rating around 45%. This might sound bad, but compared to the same time period in President George W. Bush’s second term when he polled at 32%, Obama is still very popular. To put it into perspective, President Ronald Reagan hovered a little higher than Obama in 1987 prior to President George H. W. Bush’s Presidential run.
Joe Biden is better suited to beat the Republicans, but neither party knows if he could beat Hillary Clinton for the nomination. The Republicans would want him to run if he ultimately doesn’t win the nomination while the Democrats would only want him to run if he can definitely beat her.
It’s a fine line.
For us, we hope that he runs. Weakening Clinton by forcing her to prolong her Democratic campaign will be necessary for a Republican win. There’s very little chance that the Republican race can be determined before the Democrats even if Biden does run, but every day that Clinton has to focus on the primaries, split fundraising, and defend her liberal credentials is a benefit for Republicans.
Currently Ted Cruz, Donald Trump, and Jeb Bush are the only ones with enough cash and outside money to compete with the Democrats. If Joe Biden doesn’t run, Bernie Sanders is likely to be the only Democrat close to Clinton and he will dissolve from the race quickly. However, Joe Biden is a risk. If he runs, he could beat her. If he beats her, he has a better chance of beating any of the GOP nominees.
The only real fear is that Clinton will fade as she did in 2008 and get passed up by the eventual President.
Joe Biden Running
There’s a catch-22 being discussed in both Democrat and Republican party inner circles. Joe Biden represents a love-hate gray area for both parties for the exact same reasons from opposite perspectives.
Here’s the simple truth: Joe Biden is more likely to win the general election if nominated, but if he doesn’t win the nomination he will weaken Hillary Clinton’s campaign by forcing her to spend more money and extend the primary campaign to more states.
At some point in the last few months, Joe Biden has gone from being a political punchline to somehow being seen as a statesman. He would also represent an extension of President Obama’s administration, something that rarely works but in this case it just might. Both parties realize that President Obama still maintains an approval rating around 45%. This might sound bad, but compared to the same time period in President George W. Bush’s second term when he polled at 32%, Obama is still very popular. To put it into perspective, President Ronald Reagan hovered a little higher than Obama in 1987 prior to President George H. W. Bush’s Presidential run.
Joe Biden is better suited to beat the Republicans, but neither party knows if he could beat Hillary Clinton for the nomination. The Republicans would want him to run if he ultimately doesn’t win the nomination while the Democrats would only want him to run if he can definitely beat her.
It’s a fine line.
For us, we hope that he runs. Weakening Clinton by forcing her to prolong her Democratic campaign will be necessary for a Republican win. There’s very little chance that the Republican race can be determined before the Democrats even if Biden does run, but every day that Clinton has to focus on the primaries, split fundraising, and defend her liberal credentials is a benefit for Republicans.
Currently Ted Cruz, Donald Trump, and Jeb Bush are the only ones with enough cash and outside money to compete with the Democrats. If Joe Biden doesn’t run, Bernie Sanders is likely to be the only Democrat close to Clinton and he will dissolve from the race quickly. However, Joe Biden is a risk. If he runs, he could beat her. If he beats her, he has a better chance of beating any of the GOP nominees.
The only real fear is that Clinton will fade as she did in 2008 and get passed up by the eventual President.
Joe Biden Running
- IIFFOFRDB
- 10-19-2015, 03:11 PM
- timpage
- 10-19-2015, 03:13 PM
Biden is a Bozo. If you are a conservative wishing for Biden to run.... Warning its a double edged swordSpot on.
There’s a catch-22 being discussed in both Democrat and Republican party inner circles. Joe Biden represents a love-hate gray area for both parties for the exact same reasons from opposite perspectives.
Here’s the simple truth: Joe Biden is more likely to win the general election if nominated, but if he doesn’t win the nomination he will weaken Hillary Clinton’s campaign by forcing her to spend more money and extend the primary campaign to more states.
At some point in the last few months, Joe Biden has gone from being a political punchline to somehow being seen as a statesman. He would also represent an extension of President Obama’s administration, something that rarely works but in this case it just might. Both parties realize that President Obama still maintains an approval rating around 45%. This might sound bad, but compared to the same time period in President George W. Bush’s second term when he polled at 32%, Obama is still very popular. To put it into perspective, President Ronald Reagan hovered a little higher than Obama in 1987 prior to President George H. W. Bush’s Presidential run.
Joe Biden is better suited to beat the Republicans, but neither party knows if he could beat Hillary Clinton for the nomination. The Republicans would want him to run if he ultimately doesn’t win the nomination while the Democrats would only want him to run if he can definitely beat her.
It’s a fine line.
For us, we hope that he runs. Weakening Clinton by forcing her to prolong her Democratic campaign will be necessary for a Republican win. There’s very little chance that the Republican race can be determined before the Democrats even if Biden does run, but every day that Clinton has to focus on the primaries, split fundraising, and defend her liberal credentials is a benefit for Republicans.
Currently Ted Cruz, Donald Trump, and Jeb Bush are the only ones with enough cash and outside money to compete with the Democrats. If Joe Biden doesn’t run, Bernie Sanders is likely to be the only Democrat close to Clinton and he will dissolve from the race quickly. However, Joe Biden is a risk. If he runs, he could beat her. If he beats her, he has a better chance of beating any of the GOP nominees.
The only real fear is that Clinton will fade as she did in 2008 and get passed up by the eventual President.
Joe Biden Running Originally Posted by TheDaliLama
Fox is reporting now that he is in.
- TheDaliLama
- 10-19-2015, 04:09 PM
- i'va biggen
- 10-19-2015, 08:19 PM
Battle of the bozos, tune in and cast your vote.
- RedLeg505
- 10-19-2015, 08:27 PM
- WombRaider
- 10-19-2015, 10:56 PM
- CuteOldGuy
- 10-19-2015, 11:45 PM
No, because Quayle was a fucking moron. Why do you feel the need to compare and contrast everything? Originally Posted by WombRaiderBecause you're a political hack. It's ok if your side says something stupid, or does something criminal. If the other side does the same thing, it's a scandal. Not only are you stupid, you're a hypocrite.
Did you watch the video of the Quayle incident? He had the answer key from the teacher, which said the correct spelling was "potatoe". Does he diss the teacher? Is he supposed to correct her in front of her students and TV cameras? His problem was that he was too young. He's 10 times smarter than Biden.
No, I did not, and would not vote for him. But he got a bad shake from the press on that one, and handled it with class.
- TheDaliLama
- 10-20-2015, 12:08 AM
- The_Waco_Kid
- 10-20-2015, 12:22 AM
- Mr MojoRisin
- 10-20-2015, 12:37 AM
He's also a bigger Bozo than Trump.Not only is Biden a Bozo, he doesn't have the guts to be a president. The clip below proves it. The Democratic party is falling apart at the seams, they really have nothing to offer.
This election has entered the surreal.
We now have a political survivor TV show
God help us all. Originally Posted by TheDaliLama
Jim
https://youtu.be/FVy2yh28eig