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https://www.washingtonian.com/2022/0...ople-hated-it/

The US Tried Permanent Daylight Saving Time in the ’70s. People Hated It
Written by Andrew Beaujon | Published on March 15, 2022

The sun rose at 8:27 AM on January 7, 1974. Children in the Washington area had left for school in the dark that morning, thanks to a new national experiment during a wrenching energy crisis: most of the US went to year-round daylight saving time beginning on January 6. “It was jet black” outside when her daughter was supposed to leave for school, Florence Bauer of Springfield told the Washington Post. “Some of the children took flashlights with them.”

The change would benefit Americans in the long run, predicted Steve Grossman of the Department of Transportation. Yes, accidents in the morning darkness may become more common, he said, but longer daylight hours could mean eliminating the hazards of evening commutes: “stress, anxiety, and many drivers have had a couple of drinks,” as he told the Post. Outside the capital, others vowed defiance: Robert Yost, the mayor of St. Francis, Kansas said his town’s council “felt it was time to put our foot down and stop this monkey business.”

Now as the idea of permanent daylight saving time has gained some political momentum, it’s probably worth a look back to another period when the US tinkered with time.

Congress had voted on December 14, 1973, to put the US on daylight saving time for two years. President Nixon signed the bill the next day. The US had gone to permanent daylight saving time before, during World War II. Then, too, the measure was enacted to save fuel. Permanent DST wasn’t close to the wackiest idea about time floating around—Paul Mullinax, a geographer who worked at the Pentagon, came up with the idea of putting the continental US on a single time zone. “USA Time” would apply from Bangor to Barstow, eliminate jet lag, and standardize TV schedules. His idea even got traction in Congress, via a bill from US Representative Patsy Mink of Hawaii. “The human being is a very adaptive animal,” he said. “There is no reason we have to be a slave to the sun.”

And yet the early-morning darkness quickly proved dangerous for children: A 6-year-old Alexandria girl was struck by a car on her way to Polk Elementary School on January 7; the accident broke her leg. Two Prince George’s County students were hurt in February. In the weeks after the change, eight Florida kids were killed in traffic accidents. Florida’s governor, Reubin Askew, asked for Congress to repeal the measure. “It’s time to recognize that we may well have made a mistake,” US Senator Dick Clark of Iowa said during a speech in Congress on January 28, 1974. In the Washington area, some schools delayed their start times until the sun caught up with the clock.

The factual picture was a bit more complicated. The National Safety Council reported in February that pre-sunrise fatalities had risen to 20 from 18 the year before. In July, Roger Sant, then an assistant administrator-designate for the Federal Energy Administration, wrote a letter to the Post that noted a 1 percent energy saving achieved by going to DST equated to 20,000-30,000 tons of coal not being burned each day. Further, he wrote, accidents had fallen in the afternoons.

By August, though, as the Watergate scandal caused the Nixon administration to crumble, the country was ready to move on from its clock experiments. While 79 percent of Americans approved of the change in December 1973, approval had dropped to 42 percent three months later, the New York Times reported. Seven days after President Nixon resigned, US Senator Bob Dole of Kansas introduced an amendment in August that would end the DST experiment. It passed. A similar bill passed the House. In late September, the full Congress passed a bill that would restore standard time on October 27. President Ford signed it on October 5. Energy savings, a House panel noted, “must be balanced against a majority of the public’s distaste for the observance of Daylight Saving Time.”
Skip Daylight Savings time all together.



Businesses could have summer hours and start earlier, like farmers and construction workers do anyway.
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I see the Senate last week has passed a law mandating permanent daylight savings time. it goes to the house for passage.


good idea or bad idea? what do you think?
dilbert firestorm's Avatar
Skip Daylight Savings time all together.

Businesses could have summer hours and start earlier, like farmers and construction workers do anyway. Originally Posted by farmstud60
go back to standard time which was the fall/winter dates which is what you're saying.
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There it is. Go back to the default time and stay in step with the rest of the world. Why get yourself permanently out of step with permanent daylight savings time
Skip Daylight Savings time all together.



Businesses could have summer hours and start earlier, like farmers and construction workers do anyway. Originally Posted by farmstud60
Makes since to me as we used to do that on the construction jobs I was on. The older I get the harder and longer it takes to recover from time change whether it's springing forward or falling back.
I see the Senate last week has passed a law mandating permanent daylight savings time. it goes to the house for passage.


good idea or bad idea? what do you think? Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm
This Song hit the charts back in the early 70's. Maybe it's not such a good idea.




https://youtu.be/9FzCWLOHUes
Jacuzzme's Avatar
It’s still dark when I leave for work, I could live without that.
WAIT!!! This stupid idea is LESS then 50 years old? what whacked out dumb ass moran thought up this stupid idea??!!
it ruined a huge segment of our economy

drive in movie theatres
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Why change your clocks twice a year.
Why change your clocks twice a year. Originally Posted by bambino
I would rather change Congressman twice a year. This Country would soar to new heights, lol.
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WAIT!!! This stupid idea is LESS then 50 years old? what whacked out dumb ass moran thought up this stupid idea??!! Originally Posted by soldierboy44
not 50 years old, but its 105 years old.

actually, the idea dates back to 1917 under Democratic president Woodrow Wilson as a wartime measure. at some point they stopped that and picked it up again during WWII under Democratic president FDR.

the idea behind it was to conserve fuel and energy. the savings were so tiny, its really not worth using it.

benjamin franklin was the one who invented daylight savings time. this worked very well with candles and whale oil. his idea was never implemented.
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Any one from back then who could give a crap dead now.
go back to standard time which was the fall/winter dates which is what you're saying. Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

Nope, get rid of Daylight Savings time all together.


Businesses could go to summer hours instead starting an hour earlier.