Mitt Romney and telling the truth

Following the lead of Jackie S:

30 lies of Mitt Romney, from this week alone...with several sourcings within the actual article.

1. In an interview with Fox News' Sean Hannity, Romney claimed it's fiscally responsible to eliminate the entirety of the Affordable Care Act: "It saves $100 billion a year to get rid of it."

That's the opposite of the truth. According to the CBO and other nonpartisan budget estimates, killing the law would make the deficit go up, not down, and would cost, not save, the country hundreds of billions of dollars in the coming years.

2. In the same interview, Romney said, "I think a lot of people forgetting is there is only one president in history that's cut Medicare by $500 billion and that is President Obama."

Romney says this a lot. He's not telling the truth.

3. Romney also said, "I see people holding up signs, 'Don't touch my Medicare.' It's like, hey, I'm not touching your Medicare."

Romney endorsed Paul Ryan's House Republican Budget plan, which ends the Medicare program and replaces it with a private voucher scheme.

4. In the same interview, Romney said President Obama has "never had the experience of working in the private sector."

Actually, that's not true. Obama worked at a private-sector law firm before entering public service.

5. Romney also told Hannity Obama went on "an apology tour" in his first year.

As Romney surely knows by now, he's lying.

6. Romney, trying to talk about foreign policy, said Syria is Iran's "route to the sea."

Iran doesn't share a border with Syria, and Iran already borders two bodies of water.

7. At a campaign event in Stratham, New Hampshire, Romney claimed, "Bill Clinton and so many other mainstream Democrats are revolting against the backward direction President Obama is taking his party and our country."

In reality, Bill Clinton supports the president's re-election and recently said a Romney presidency would be "calamitous for our country and the world."

8. At an event in Cornwall, Pennsylvania, shared an anecdote about a local optometrist who was forced to fill out a "33-page" change-of-address form -- several times -- at the post office.

There is no such change-of-address form.

9. At the same event, Romney said Obama is "taking away" scholarships and charter schools for "kids in Washington, D.C."

This has become a line in Romney's stump speech, but it isn't in any way true.

10. Romney also claimed, "This president has put together almost as much public debt as all the prior presidents combined."

That's a lie.

11. Romney went on to say, "It's immoral in my view for my generation to pass on to these kids the burden of our generation. I think it's wrong. It's got to stop. And if I'm president of the United States I will get us on track to have a balanced budget."

That's plainly false. Romney says his plan "can't be scored," but independent budget analysts have found his agenda would make the deficit bigger, not smaller, and add trillions to the national debt.

12. At a campaign stop in Weatherly, Pennsylvania, Romney said the president's "trillion- dollar stimulus" failed to "create jobs."

That's the opposite of the truth.

13. At the same event, Romney said about Obama, "He was told that one small business was having a hard time dealing with Obamacare. He said he hadn't heard that."

That's not what happened. In fact, the small business wasn't having a hard time dealing with Obamacare, and was hurt by policies Romney wants to pursue.

14. Romney went on say, "I was in Las Vegas and met a woman who was worried. She has a business renting furniture to casinos and to conventioners that come to Las Vegas. And when the president said, don't bother coming to Las Vegas for your company meetings a few years ago, her business dove."

Obama actually said, in reference to Wall Street recklessness, "You are not going to be able to give out these big bonuses until you pay taxpayers back. You can't get corporate jets. You can't go take a trip to Las Vegas or go down to the Super Bowl on the taxpayers' dime. There's got to be some accountability and some responsibility." To blame the failure of some random business in Nevada on this is ridiculous.

15. Romney added, "If we stay on the road we're on, we're going to become like Europe.... I don't believe Europe works in Europe. I don't want it here."

The irony is, Europe is trying to grow through austerity, just as Romney intends to do here. He's lying in a self-refuting sort of way.

16. In his "Face the Nation" interview, Romney said of Obama's new immigration policy, "If he really wanted to make a solution that dealt with these kids or with the illegal immigration in America, then this is something he would have taken up in his first three and a half years, not in his last few months."

That's remarkably misleading. Obama has pushed for the DREAM Act for years, and would have signed it into law in 2010 had it not been blocked by a Republican filibuster.

17. In the same interview, Romney said about health care, "I will continue to describe the plan that I would provide, which is, number one, to make sure that people don't have to worry about losing their insurance if they have a preexisting condition, and change jobs."

This is the kind of answer that's clearly intended to deceive. Under Romney's approach, millions of people with pre-existing conditions would be denied coverage -- and occasionally his campaign even admits it.

18. Also on health care, Romney said the president "jammed through a bill" and "didn't really try and work for a Republican vote."

This is laughably untrue. Obama worked for months to find someone -- anyone -- in the Republican Party who would work with him in good faith, including delaying progress while the "Gang of Six" engaged in pointless talks.

19. Romney also said, "I'm not looking for a tax cut for the very wealthiest."

Either Romney hasn't read his own tax plan, or he's lying.

20. Appearing via video at the "Faith and Freedom Coalition" annual event, Romney applauded the far-right group's leader: "Ralph Reed has been a real champion in fighting for the fundamental values that have made America the nation that it is."

You've got to be kidding me.

21. In the same speech, Romney said, "When you put in place a bill like Obamacare, you attack the freedom of people to make a choice about their own insurance and what kind of coverage they want to have."

That's not true. Under the Affordable Care Act, consumers would choose from competing plans as part of a health care exchange. Romney knows this -- it was part of his own plan.

22. Romney went on to say, "[M]edian income in this nation has dropped by 10 percent over the last four years."

That only makes sense if we count Obama's first year in office, which relies on a standard Romney believes is fundamentally unfair.

23. He also argued, "Government at all levels is about 37 percent of the economy today -- 37 percent. And if Obamacare were allowed to stand, government would control about half of the economy of America."

That's demonstrably ridiculous.

24. At the same event, Romney said that Obama "insists" that "Israel return to the '67 borders -- indefensible borders."

He's lying.

25. At a campaign event in Brunswick, Ohio, Romney claimed that Obama said "if you let him borrow all that money, he'd keep unemployment below 8 percent."

As Romney surely knows by now, that's simply not true.

26. At the same event, Romney said under Obamacare, we'll get "a healthcare system run by the government."

There is no universe in which this is true.

27. At a campaign event in Janesville, Wisconsin, Romney argued, "[T]he path we're on, spending $1 trillion more every year than we take in, is leading us to Greece."

That's painfully untrue.

28. At a campaign event in Holland, Michigan, Romney claimed that, as a result of the Dodd-Frank reforms, "small banks and community banks are finding it harder and harder to make loans to small businesses."

According to community banks, this is false. These banks have actually gotten stronger after Dodd-Frank, and the president of Independent Community Bankers Of America recently said, "I am sick of Wall Street using community banks as their shills to scare community bankers into stampeding Congress into undoing provisions of law that finally attempt to deal with too big to fail and Wall Street overreach."

29. In a speech to the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials yesterday, Romney argued that President Obama "has not completed a single new trade agreement with Latin America."

Romney does realize that Panama is part of Latin America, right?

30. Romney went on to argue, "Unfortunately, despite his promises, President Obama has failed to address immigration reform."

Actually, Obama has addressed it quite a bit, taking executive action where the law allows, and pushing Congress to pursue comprehensive reform based on a bipartisan plan he presented last year.

Obloblo gives Doove Duck a BJ.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t75x...eature=related

Obloblo gives Doove Duck a BJ.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t75x...eature=related Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

That was very funny! I don't think Walt Disney would have approved.

That's funny. Doofie responded to the Romney "lies" simply by saying "he's lying" after each statement. I guess Doofie is the authority. LOL!

What an idiot! But he is so much fun to watch!

That's funny. Doofie responded to the Romney "lies" simply by saying "he's lying" after each statement. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

No. That's what Jackie S's post did.

I guess Doofie is the authority. LOL!

At least my guy sourced everything in the original article. I just didn't feel like transferring all the links he used over to here. I just linked to the original instead.

Nice try though.

What an idiot! But he is so much fun to watch!

Speaking of idiots, you seem to be having a rough week COG.

You were forced to admit i was right 2 or 3 times, you were exposed as a hypocrite, and now you've got egg on your face.

Doofie, you are having trouble with comprehension now. Whatever you say. Make yourself happy.

I don't like Romney, so I'd probably agree with some of the rationale, but it's hard to agree when the only evidence given is you saying he's lying.

Here's a response you'll understand.

But, but, uh, Yeah! Obama lied too!

Doofie, you are having trouble with comprehension now. Whatever you say. Make yourself happy.

I don't like Romney, so I'd probably agree with some of the rationale, but it's hard to agree when the only evidence given is you saying he's lying.

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Click the link, Genius.

Click the link, Genius. Originally Posted by Doove

Remember, you are dealing with a feeble mind. For SOF to actually click the link is too much to ask of someone who has difficulty with the concept of walking and chewing gum at the same time.

Don't be so demanding of SOF! After all, he needs to devote his time to hating all of the candidates, not just a few!

I'm beginning to think he's too stupid to even realize there's a link in my post.

If Rachel Maddow had any credibility, it might be worth the time. But she is simply an administration shill on an Obama controlled network.

That's funny. Doofie responded to the Romney "lies" simply by saying "he's lying" after each statement. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Like most of the ultra conservatives on here COG never refutes, just changes the posters name from Doove to Doofie in an attempt at an insult. I guess it is just a conservative thing. I always use his correct handle showing respect and address his position only but I guess that is just beyond the posters like COG on here, who act like a bunch of third graders and change the handle in an attempt to insult.

Besides, Wannagetlaidbutistoougly, you don't want answers, you want justification for Obama. Just like FastGoon, Doofie, CBJ7 and others, anything that happens that might cast a bad light on Obama simply didn't happen, and if it did, Bush did the same thing or worse, so we have to give Obama a pass.

How stupid is that? Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

If Rachel Maddow had any credibility, it might be worth the time. But she is simply an administration shill on an Obama controlled network. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

First you criticize me for not backing up the original post with facts. I then tell you where to find the facts, and you, well, you again criticize me for not backing up the original post with facts. Once it finally sinks in with you, in a further attempt to ignore the facts, you just criticize the website where the facts are located.

This from the guy who claims some of us on the other side only want justification for our views.

That, combined with Louie's spot on point, means the picture is becoming ever more clear in regards to what you really are. Kind of like how it became clear with Olivia.

Like most of the ultra conservatives on here COG never refutes, just changes the posters name from Doove to Doofie in an attempt at an insult. I guess it is just a conservative thing. I always use his correct handle showing respect and address his position only but I guess that is just beyond the posters like COG on here, who act like a bunch of third graders and change the handle in an attempt to insult. Originally Posted by BigLouie

I pretty much do the same. I might change the name from Iifford to Iify, for obvious reasons. However where COG is concerned, SOF seemed to be much more fitting!

Cog,

What Rachel Maddow has on her site are facts. That is the great thing about the recording of what is said and done in the media. You really can't refute blatant facts when it has been recorded. The fact that you don't even want to take the time to read it and just discount it because it comes from a Journalist/Reporter you don't like or isn't in line with your way of thinking is again close minded.

You place so many posts on this board daily with links to every site that is in line with your thinking in the hopes that people like us will read them and make a comment. For the most part we do. I can certainly say that I do. But you don't even give the courtesy to others when they post their links from sites you don't like.

That is just close minded and hypocritical.