Please don't slam, however if someone could answer this nagging question for me.

" Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"

Quote from Albert Einstien

Some of these guys don't have premium access or they find the ladies on BP and don't do research and take the bait. Now on this site you do have ladies who get bad reviews and still get business because for every bad review the lady gets you have a White Knight who counters it with a "glowing review".
I typically avoid the Welcome Wagon until the lady is very well established. There's a provider in the Welcome Wagon right now who is great looking and guys are just drooling over her- but she has an awful review in the Men's lounge.
Normally I won't see a lady until she has 3 reviews from established hobbyist whom I trust and know wouldn't give a B.S review. Trust me I have seen ladies in the past who got glowing reviews from hobbyist who I didn't know well and when I saw the lady she was terrible- so you can't even trust every "good" review you read. I am very picky these days- I don't have money or time to waste.
One last point, I think some guys here are too generous in their reviews- I read a review last week- where the guy mention nothing special happened everything no kissing, DATY, and she basically allowed him one position and he gives her a "Yes" recommendation. I message him and ask why would he recommend us (hobbyist) a lady who in his words admitted was average at best when there are tons of girls who provided more for the dollar???

She's hot and/or cheap. Either of those is enough to make stupid guys ignore previous bad intel or skip doing their own research.

Several reasons, Lisa.
Firstly, it is not the same guy going back over and over again.
Some men do not do research before they pull the trigger.
Some men do not report their poor experiences back here. When they do, it is a pile-on of "me too's" on one thread who could have saved the OP's in the first place if the "me too's" had posted a review or an alert in the first place. FUCKERS!

Must be some good ads that they put up causing men to easily think with their dick first.

Hope that helps.

It's all about attraction for me. If she flips my switch then I will keep trying to see the girl. You gotta be able to have a little patience in this hobby. Some just line up a plan b and even plan c. For me once I make up my mind on who I'm going to see it's them or I'll just go home.

It's a really hard decision to pick one out of 500 + ladies. I'm like a blind man trying to pick out his favorite Porno. haha

Where do you see review after review of ncns, bait and switch, robbery and bad service?

[CENTER][B]Why do guys continue to see ladies who give bad services. Originally Posted by lisa.lisa0302

I guess it depends on what a person thinks is worth the effort.

Are the good providers doing something wrong.

Aside from not marketing themselves to the clients they would like to call? Possibly. Perhaps the difference between ``good'' and ``bad'' is not so obvious or perhaps the difference is not as great as one might think. Maybe guys don't trust reviews and alerts to the extent you think they do. Maybe their definition of good and bad differs from yours. Who knows? I do know that if I were to ever break up with my fiancee and get back into the hobby, that my definition of ``good'' would be a low volume utr provider who doesn't get involved in board drama, doesn't need to advertise, run specials or have reviews to have all the business she wants. If she can do that, then the clients she does have must like her and keep coming back.

Thanks for the response. I was curious.

Good afternoon MonkMonk

Ummm....Providers can see recommend Yes or NO.
Umm, if the review is six pages long, im thinking it ain't always a good sign.

Robs and bait and switch - The alert section.
And last but not least the good ole co-ed section, there are several threads written by guys here who seen a provider and his experience was not the very best.
And the occasional bp ad, that some guy posted.

Lisa it is all about lack of research. Most guys are just lazy and just think think with junior. After the fact, big head takes control. I also agree with JG and Wellendow

Lack of research is the biggest cause of keeping a provider in business. For me research is the only way to keep myself out of trouble and throwing money away on providers that create an illusion of greatness that turns sour the minute you walk in the door.

If the little head had a brain maybe this would not happen as often as it does.

I like the abuse

Lisa
I think it has a lot to do with the White Knight factor... Many guys get slammed by the WK's when they post a less than glowing review of one of the "Queens" Also, The BackPage and Craigs List influance.. Many BackPage and Craigs girls have found ECCIE.. Just look at there ads.. Many list links to ECCIE Reviews.. I think a lot of the BP and CL guys have now found ECCIE and added to some of the Drama here and also to the watering down of reviews...
Just a opinion

I read the reviews, use search to identify Providers that can scratch my particular itch, stay away from the BP ladies and avoid those that have a "No" recommendation on here. So far that's worked.

lisa - it appears that the guys who are the ones who like getting burned aren't really going to speak up...(well, cando - you are an exception - but I think you are ALWAYS the exception. ha ha ha)

There's got to be a thrill factor in this that goes beyond have a good time (whatever the definition of good equals to each guy...bbw, bdsm, spinner ect.) and doing something they really shouldn't do - by societies standards.

I forget who use to post about all the street walker experiences that he would have - maybe it was Logan? (he had al pacino's image from scarface) Those posts always got a lot of attention - good or bad. But it seemed he frequented that type of strange - due to the high he got from the entire experience.

Maybe that has a lot to do with it.

Me? If I were a hobbyist or setting up a newbie on his first visit into this world - I'd show him the reviews section, encourage Men's room access as soon as he could get it, and tell him to stay the EFF away from BP.
I know there are some legit, good girls - that even participate here on the boards...that use BP for ads. But I'm just personally not a fan, due to all the riff raff that's on there.