Louie CK fat girl soliloquy

When I saw Louie Ck where there was a fat girl soliloquy,I was bothered because she brings up "her age and fact she's fat". so he says, you you arent fat,
BECAUSE He wants to be nice to her about this thing that bugs her.(or whyd she bring it up)

The gist of it is she's upset that he and others guys are "mean jerks" because they dont want to date fat girls,..
so what?
I dont throw away ice cream and eat arugula, I like ice cream, it does thing to my brain that make me happy/feel good
the same thing applies to dating attractive women

I Love this little bit of dialogue from an episode of HOUSE(heavy)
Cameron: Everything in society tells us we have to be thin to be successful.
Chase: No, society tells you you have to be thin to be attractive. And guess what, that’s what attractive means: that society likes looking at you.
Cameron: I think we should be telling our kids it’s fine as long as they’re healthy.

-That could break off into a diatribe about what is healthy, but I think that is obvious(bmi <25 and/or bodyfat <15% is healthy)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22530540

The question is, if you know the rules, that society wants a "healthy" person to look at and treats healthy people differently, why arent you healthy?
You don't smoke cause you know amongst things, that's unhealthy, so why are you unhealthy and complaining? (please let me know if you talk to someone about changing the rules. I'd love to go back to Old Country buffet)

http://www.forbes.com/sites/allenstj...of-television/

am in the middle of retouching her images now Originally Posted by bcdstudios

Like most guys I used to really be attracted to the pin up model type. I have always liked big breasts but that was about all I used to think should be big. But now, after having spent some time in the hobby and having sampled from the variety that the hobby offers...

Well I like big butts (I cannot lie). I have found that I am much more attracted to curvy girls. They don't have to be BBW's (I like those to), but I do like em thick.

.....

The gist of it is she's upset that he and others guys are "mean jerks" because they dont want to date fat girls,..
...
Chase: No, society tells you you have to be thin to be attractive. And guess what, that’s what attractive means: that society likes looking at you.
Cameron: I think we should be telling our kids it’s fine as long as they’re healthy......

The question is, if you know the rules, that society wants a "healthy" person to look at and treats healthy people differently, why arent you healthy?
You don't smoke cause you know amongst things, that's unhealthy, so why are you unhealthy and complaining? ..... Originally Posted by bigcockpussylicker

You hit the nail right on the head with the above statements.

We do not like unhealthy people because we know we ourselves should be healthy. But it takes work, and more work the older you get. When we face the question if if you should smoke, we all know we should not; but some still do. Think about it, and what is wrong with YOU, if you still smoke?

What is wrong with me, when I don't go to the gym at least three times a week? It bothers me, but I still let it slip - sometimes.

What is wrong with me, when I don't eat right. It bothers me, but I still let it slip - sometimes.

What is wrong with me, when I don't get enough sleep. It bothers me, but I still let it slip - sometimes.

What is wrong with me, when I don't watch my diet. It bothers me, but I still let it slip - sometimes.

Sometimes when I let things slip enough it becomes a bad habit.

It takes discipline and control that sometimes I seem to have lost. I once had that discipline and control - when I was in the Marine Corps. When did I loose it. Will I be able to get it back? I know I am not perfect. But the diet and eating right are important because without regaining full control, I like everyone else will feel worse and die sooner.

JR

When did I loose it. Will I be able to get it back? I know I am not perfect. But the diet and eating right are important because without regaining full control, I like everyone else will feel worse and die sooner.

JR Originally Posted by JRLawrence

I've noticed with myself as more time passes the easier it is to stay down in these trenches. I gained weight last october or so when I had surgery(penile reduction) and being down a while, I gained weight, I stopped working out, and Suddenly I gained 50lbs

Did I get on board to get back into shape asap, no, not really, My enviroment changed, I was depressed and feeling shitty. No doubt the fat was playing havoc on my joints, skin,, clothes, hormones.
Fat Bastard: I can't stop eating. I eat because I'm unhappy, and I'm unhappy because I eat. It's a vicious cycle.

Throw in this crap about life messing with you(job, people, details), and you don't prioritize the weight loss because you get used to feeling like shit because you don't realize how shitty you feel compared to if you were lean.

You hit the nail right on the head with the above statements. Originally Posted by JRLawrence

That is so obvious, isnt it?

I don't like smokers, does that make me a bad person or anyting?
Smoking is a choice you made, you are smelly, yellowy, etc
you have a zilion reasons why you smoke, I dont like it, but you dont think Im a bad person or judging you etc


I dont like fat chicks,
Does that make me a bad person

IT DOES? why the hell is that?>
Eating is your choice, It makes you fat, more prone to disease and not as much fun in the bedroom as I've never has a fat girl asian cowgirl, but I have had one crush me...

That girl in the 2nd photo looks like Amber from that TV reality show "Teen Mom"(LOL)

Why would people assume that all overweight or heavy or thick people are unhappy?
-I know tons of people who are Not thin/skinny, and they love their lives. They are happy people.

Why would people assume that a person eats too much just because they are overweight, heavy or thick?
-Some people just have a naturally bigger frame. Some people have a thyroid that doesn't work properly, etc..etc. It wouldn't matter what kind of crazy diets and exercise programs they took part in... they would still be big. It's just who they are. Skinny people telling them they aren't good enough all the time is not the antidote. Sympathy, Kindness, Support and Respect go a hell of a lot further than someone who belittles others only based on their body size.

It's humorous to me that back in the 18th century, if you were overweight it meant you were rich, high class and of the aristocracy. Now everyone seems so cruel, disrespectful and intolerant of others choices.

When will people stop trying to control everyone's lives and choices? In my opinion, what they should be doing is solely paying attention to the man/woman staring back at them in the mirror? We all have our own unique vices. Some vices are exposed outwardly which society attacks, while others are hidden all nice and quiet inside where only God and that person know. A vice is a vice plain and simple. It is usually most advantageous for us all to give Grace so that when we need it, Grace is returned.

It should be none of our concern whether someone is big or not. It is our human right to make any choices we want to make. Are there consequences for our actions? You bet your ass there are, but we should at least be able to make our own choices whether they are harmful or beneficial. We are not robots on autopilot. Thank God for that! I would rather make 1000 mistakes of my own doing than to follow the orders of another. Choices: That's living Life to the fullest.

I honestly could care less if you do not like big/fat girls. That is your Right to Choose... Free Will. However, I do care that there was a careless and heartless post started in poor taste. Especially after a certain thread in the (Co-Ed) section. Just Sayin', Now Flame Away...

That girl in the 2nd photo looks like Amber from that TV reality show "Teen Mom"(LOL) Originally Posted by Urban Dahlia

I don't watch that show, so I have no idea what you mean, I stick to TV where I can learn something, IE honeyboo, any show on MTV.....
--nah, just messin.. It was just some random pic...I think it might be her?

Why would people assume that all overweight or heavy or thick people are unhappy? Originally Posted by Urban Dahlia

-I know tons of people who are Not thin/skinny, and they love their lives. They are happy people.. Originally Posted by Urban Dahlia

That's great, I am not commenting on people's happiness nor saying people need to be thin/skinny.Nor am I saying being fat means you'll be unhappy. Those are abstract concepts, I am speaking about science of disease(cancer/CVD) and what being fat does to your hormones. Also how society treats a person because they arent attractive.

Why would people assume that a person eats too much just because they are overweight, heavy or thick?
-Some people just have a naturally bigger frame. Some people have a thyroid that doesn't work properly, etc..etc. It wouldn't matter what kind of crazy diets and exercise programs they took part in... they would still be big. It's just who they are. Skinny people telling them they aren't good enough all the time is not the antidote. Sympathy, Kindness, Support and Respect go a hell of a lot further than someone who belittles others only based on their body size. . Originally Posted by Urban Dahlia

-There are lots of reasons a person might be fat.
Diets almost always work,**
It's proven people overestimate how much they move/calories burnt and underestimate how much they eat.
When you toss anyone into a lab and track in/output, they lose weight.
Yeah, even people with thyroid conditioning, which just means they burn fewer calories.
(I don't recall seeing fat kids in africa nor fat people in WW2 camps)

**2 medical conditions that might be relevant are total leptin resistance and Prader-Willi syndrome.

I agree with what you bolded, but so? I am not talking about changing people, I'm talking about how people are, not if people are right or wrong.
Am I wrong?
No, I am talking about how society is and how diseases work, not about morals.

It's humorous to me that back in the 18th century, if you were overweight it meant you were rich, high class and of the aristocracy. Now everyone seems so cruel, disrespectful and intolerant of others choices. . Originally Posted by Urban Dahlia

Yes, times change, Wasnt that the time period when the average age was ~35yo and people have slaves?
yes it is.

In cavemen or aztecs/mayans, days being big was deemed attractive also because it showed someone had wealth/lots of food.
It seems times have changed because food is cheap, so its easy to become fat and harder to stay lean. so those who are lean show off better genes, or something like that.

When will people stop trying to control everyone's lives and choices? In my opinion, what they should be doing is solely paying attention to the man/woman staring back at them in the mirror? We all have our own unique vices. Some vices are exposed outwardly which society attacks, while others are hidden all nice and quiet inside where only God and that person know. A vice is a vice plain and simple. It is usually most advantageous for us all to give Grace so that when we need it, Grace is returned.. Originally Posted by Urban Dahlia

Why don't girls date me even though I don't groom or shower? why are they so intolerant!
That's what you sound like.
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again, I am not trying to control anyone by making this post, In fact, the 1st post spells out why I made this post.. The fat girl is mad because Louis doesnt find her attractive and she blames it on her being fat.
Then I meander into the choice she makes. If it bothers her that much, why doesn't she stop being fat? Otherwise, the lack of attraction Louis feels isnt his fault or his choice, so why is she mad at him?

It should be none of our concern whether someone is big or not. It is our human right to make any choices we want to make. Are there consequences for our actions? You bet your ass there are, but we should at least be able to make our own choices whether they are harmful or beneficial. We are not robots on autopilot. Thank God for that! I would rather make 1000 mistakes of my own doing than to follow the orders of another. Choices: That's living Life to the fullest.. Originally Posted by Urban Dahlia

Have you ever been really overweight? I have and I know people who have. and they don't always live life to the fullest when they eat whatever they want, are 30+lbs overweight, have high blood pressure, can't tie their own shoes,much less keep up with their families on vacation,
But hey, they eat whatever they want, is that "living life to the fullest"?

Again, people can chose to do whatever they want, But they dont get to choose how anyone else feels about their choice.
The point of this thread has nothing to do with fat people needing to change. I just pointed out if the fat girl is mad because someone doesnt like her being fat, why doesnt she change OR why does she blame them for their choice of free etc?
This is like the providers don't see black men thread, when everyone said how Providers can see whomever they want, freedom of choice, etc.
We even had a few guys chime in about their own cases where they couldnt be seem because of their color, I don't recall you or anyone else getting mad and throwing a fit that providers need to change

I honestly could care less if you do not like big/fat girls. That is your Right to Choose... Free Will. However, I do care that there was a careless and heartless post started in poor taste. Especially after a certain thread in the (Co-Ed) section. Just Sayin', Now Flame Away... Originally Posted by Urban Dahlia

I suspect you mean, "couldnt care less"

JUST SAYIN;!

This has nothing to do with saying anything abstract, or my feelings about fat people.

This thread is about exactly what you are talking about, freedom of choice."
Why does this fat girl get mad at about Louies freedom of choice. The fat girl has no right to be mad at Louie for making his choice(or people making their choice to prefer not to date fat girls.)

Why don't you date guys who wear dirty clothes/don't shave/don't shower?
That makes sense to you, not to date a "smelly" guy. right? Do you think people were very clean as cavemen/ most of history til we all indoor plumbing/showers/razors?
The difference is being clean VS being in shape is a lot easier, You can go from a mess to clean in a short time, with minimal effort.
Yet to not be fat, takes a long time and various amounts of effort based on genetics/environment.


The other thread is about science and also not about abstract opinions. Both threads might contain some personal opinions, but that is NOT what they are about and has you have repeatedly pointed out, I am allowed to have opinions.

I don't watch that show, so I have no idea what you mean, I stick to TV where I can learn something, IE honeyboo, any show on MTV.....
--nah, just messin.. It was just some random pic...I think it might be her? Originally Posted by bigcockpussylicker

Nahhh, I don't watch that show, or should say I didn't watch that show. I prefer Bob's Burgers lol.

I have somewhat of a photographic memory so pretty much once I see something I will remember it for life.

Side Note: Do not let me see you punch in any number codes/passwords as numbers are what I remember the easiest. Anyone wanna go to the casinos, and play Blackjack lol? Hee Hee

Nahhh, I don't watch that show, or should say I didn't watch that show. I prefer Bob's Burgers lol.

I have somewhat of a photographic memory so pretty much once I see something I will remember it for life.

Side Note: Do not let me see you punch in any number codes/passwords as numbers are what I remember the easiest. Anyone wanna go to the casinos, and play Blackjack lol? Hee Hee

Originally Posted by Urban Dahlia

Yeah, I'll go play blackjack with ya.,,,I don't like the constant shuffle machines though
I enjoy american dad, at least the daughter Hallie is right up alley

You didn't understand what that girl was saying in that episode at all. She wasn't mad she was fat she wwas mad that he would lie to her about something so obvious because he thought her being fat was so terrible that admitting the obvious would destroy her. But good job missing the point and going on some diatribe about weight and diets and professing some ancient idea about calories in calories out and BMI which is a basically worthless measure of anything but a ration of weight to height. Also the fact that less than 15% body fat is healthy for men is about right but completely wrong for women which you were addressing. The amount of ignorance in BDPL statements is almost jarring like he wasn't even trying to get the point but instead saw a fat girl and then went off on his own tangent. Rewatch the episode and see if you still think its about the fat girl being mad about being fat. Also most human interaction isn't solely based on physical appearance.

So much dumb I'm almost at a loss.

You didn't understand what that girl was saying in that episode at all. She wasn't mad she was fat she wwas mad that he would lie to her about something so obvious because he thought her being fat was so terrible that admitting the obvious would destroy her. Originally Posted by shamrock55

You missed it buddy, Fail1
She was mad at louie for lyig about "shes not fat"
then she upset that the world treats fat women and fat men differently

But good job missing the point and going on some diatribe about weight and diets and professing some ancient idea about calories in calories out and BMI which is a basically worthless measure of anything but a ration of weight to height. Originally Posted by shamrock55

I agree BMI is a poor measure to use BUT it is the scale used in the study/survey I posted,. I mentioned it so retards like you, who can't understand basic English, wouldn't need to try to read the link,
You proved my point you didnt read., or can't, I'm not sure yet.

LOL anciet idea of calories in/out?
LOL how do you think ALL Diets work? you lose fat by eating fewer calories than you burn? did you also forget what thermodynamics are about? LOL

Also the fact that less than 15% body fat is healthy for men is about right but completely wrong for women which you were addressing. Originally Posted by shamrock55

-I was addressing men and women about why this women spends time bitching about a problem instead of just fixing it?
yeah, you are correct there, women should be 24-30%(I don't have anything scientific that talks about bodyfat, so I just went with when you had to start to deal with stubbon fat, which is ~15% for men and ~24% for women

The amount of ignorance in BDPL statements is almost jarring like he wasn't even trying to get the point but instead saw a fat girl and then went off on his own tangent. Rewatch the episode and see if you still think its about the fat girl being mad about being fat. Also most human interaction isn't solely based on physical appearance.. Originally Posted by shamrock55

She was and is, she was bitching about people judging her on being fat/ avoiding the fact she is fat.
My diatribe(good word) was about WHY does she let herself have to deal with how society treats a fat person?
Why does she let herself be fat?
Much like why would someone who stinks bitch about how society treats him about his stink? why doesn't he just shower?

So much dumb I'm almost at a loss. Originally Posted by shamrock55

you sound as if you have hard time comprehending what you read?
Maybe just plain trouble reading?

LOL anciet idea of calories in/out?
LOL how do you think ALL Diets work? you lose fat by eating fewer calories than you burn? did you also forget what thermodynamics are about? LOL Originally Posted by bigcockpussylicker

You understand thermodynamics is only a small part of the equation, right? You think if you eat 10,000 calories your body processes all of those? No a lot of that runs straight through to waste because your body can only process a certain amount of calories at a time. It also processes sugars, fats and proteins differently which you learn in biochemistry. If all calories are the same why do people who eat mostly proteins, fat and fiber lose much more weight than people who eat the same amount of calories in sugar? Its because the body processes different types of calories differently.

Shit you sound like an aspergers patient. I bet your rocking in the corner of your house humming to yourself right now.

You understand thermodynamics is only a small part of the equation, right?. Originally Posted by shamrock55

LOL please share what else matters?
are you gonna get fat eating nothing? You think so because something else maters other than engery in which causes weight gain..
I wont hold my breath for an accurate answer.

You think if you eat 10,000 calories your body processes all of those? No a lot of that runs straight through to waste because your body can only process a certain amount of calories at a time.. Originally Posted by shamrock55

ok? that is likely untrue, do you have a source?
More importantly, how does that pertain to this thread exactly?

It also processes sugars, fats and proteins differently which you learn in biochemistry.. Originally Posted by shamrock55

yeah, so? why does that matter to this thread?

If all calories are the same why do people who eat mostly proteins, fat and fiber lose much more weight than people who eat the same amount of calories in sugar? Its because the body processes different types of calories differently. . Originally Posted by shamrock55

LOL yeah,without getting into too much bio chem,(which you are proving to be just an idiot about) Its because carbs/sugar gets stored in the liver/muscles/kidneys, (where its called glycogen)along with water, see,,glycogen holds water.
Thats why when you go on a low carb diet, after 1-2 weeks, you lose a ton of weight(not fat) because its water weight.

but again, I don't see how this pertains at all to this thread which is asking why a fat lady is complaining about how she is treated because she is fat, why doesnt she just lose weight?

Shit you sound like an aspergers patient. I bet your rocking in the corner of your house humming to yourself right now. Originally Posted by shamrock55

I dont know what your mom sounds like, so I can't comment your home life
.
You have affirmed via your post, you are a complete moron who isn't sure what he is bitching about or understands basic human physiology.
LOL