Input from the ladies needed

This is for the ladies. If you have a penis I know that you will give me a load of shit. Knowing that in advance, please just zip it.
I will try to not be too self serving.
I'm a single financially independent man. I prefer commercial pussy. I've been in the game about four years. ECCIE and P411 have never disappointed. With one exception (cash and dash) I have thoroughly enjoyed your company. You all know me by this handle on ECCIE and a different one on P411. I have several OKAYs on P411. Read the comments made by me by searching me on ECCIE.
I am generous and not demanding. I have helped ladies in financial distress by loaning or giving not small sums of money. I've bought two cars, paid rent, I even bailed out one of your boyfriends to the tune of $5500, and paid bondsman for some ladies in trouble. I've paid legal fees to assist in clearing criminal charges. I even paid tuition to assist in completing a degree. I have taken providers on fabulous travels to the Carribean and thru-out the U.S. I have never (until now) been taken advantage of.
After getting to know you it is my interest to, with explicit permission, push limits. I have never been refused.
I've never had a lick of trouble. One provider stopped returning my calls for reasons I think I understand after which she gave me an OKAY on P411,and that's fine.
So, here is the story. I met a provider new to the game in July. She and I met a few times and I introduced her to my expanded interests. She was totally on board. We had a blast together. She got hooked up with a pimp and was fortunately able to escape but she had nothing but the clothes on her back. I gave her $1900 to buy a car, $500 for incidentals, $2000 in advance for future visits with me, bought her two iPads and two cell phones. She and I agreed on an allowance that in essence paid her $30,000 a year. Her part of the agreement was to see me two hours a week or perhaps more for dinner out in addition to occasional unspecified overnights. I also promised $1000 a day when we traveled together. She agreed. So I see her and I pay her the monthly allowance in advance. We agree on a week in the Carribean and I buy her a round trip non-refundable ticket. Suddenly she doesn't return calls then contacts me telling me to never contact her again. She continues to post here so I know that she is still in the game. This is a bit of a rant but this goose with the golden eggs is a bit perplexed. By the way, I always contact providers through P411 using a different handle. Those of you who know me by both please don't leak it to ECCIE. I just needed to blow off a bit of steam. Rocky50

I been there ... and I feel your pain. If a Provider wants something like that from me ... they must earn it. Finding a good sugar baby takes work, patience, and it is not an easy quest. I have a sugar baby, it took me years to find her. I give her 4 grand a month, she takes care of my needs and I take care of hers. She doesn't rip me off, short my sessions, or underperform in bed. I take her to the movies, restaurants, trips, I spoil her really good. As a result I don't need to hobby as much because she takes good care of me. We might have our disagreements every now and then, but at the end of the day we are back with each other again.

This is for the ladies. If you have a penis I know that you will give me a load of shit. Knowing that in advance, please just zip it. Originally Posted by rocky50

Let me know now this works out for you...

P.S.-You're acting like an idiot...and you set yourself up for failure...but don't worry, now that you've explained exactly how easily you can be scammed, I'm sure you'll have no shortage of hookers lining up to take more money from you...

It seems there is an exception to the theory that the hobby is much cheaper than marriage.

This is for the ladies. If you have a penis I know that you will give me a load of shit. Knowing that in advance, please just zip it.
I will try to not be too self serving.
I'm a single financially independent man. I prefer commercial pussy. I've been in the game about four years. ECCIE and P411 have never disappointed. With one exception (cash and dash) I have thoroughly enjoyed your company. You all know me by this handle on ECCIE and a different one on P411. I have several OKAYs on P411. Read the comments made by me by searching me on ECCIE.
I am generous and not demanding. I have helped ladies in financial distress by loaning or giving not small sums of money. I've bought two cars, paid rent, I even bailed out one of your boyfriends to the tune of $5500, and paid bondsman for some ladies in trouble. I've paid legal fees to assist in clearing criminal charges. I even paid tuition to assist in completing a degree. I have taken providers on fabulous travels to the Carribean and thru-out the U.S. I have never (until now) been taken advantage of.
After getting to know you it is my interest to, with explicit permission, push limits. I have never been refused.
I've never had a lick of trouble. One provider stopped returning my calls for reasons I think I understand after which she gave me an OKAY on P411,and that's fine.
So, here is the story. I met a provider new to the game in July. She and I met a few times and I introduced her to my expanded interests. She was totally on board. We had a blast together. She got hooked up with a pimp and was fortunately able to escape but she had nothing but the clothes on her back. I gave her $1900 to buy a car, $500 for incidentals, $2000 in advance for future visits with me, bought her two iPads and two cell phones. She and I agreed on an allowance that in essence paid her $30,000 a year. Her part of the agreement was to see me two hours a week or perhaps more for dinner out in addition to occasional unspecified overnights. I also promised $1000 a day when we traveled together. She agreed. So I see her and I pay her the monthly allowance in advance. We agree on a week in the Carribean and I buy her a round trip non-refundable ticket. Suddenly she doesn't return calls then contacts me telling me to never contact her again. She continues to post here so I know that she is still in the game. This is a bit of a rant but this goose with the golden eggs is a bit perplexed. By the way, I always contact providers through P411 using a different handle. Those of you who know me by both please don't leak it to ECCIE. I just needed to blow off a bit of steam. Rocky50 Originally Posted by rocky50

As for the first few sentences...That's not how this works.

As for the content...You say you've been in the game for four years? Based on the experience that you've laid out you've been gamed for about four years.

If you listened to your own stupidity in your own thread and learned something from it I'd say you've been in the game for about 3/4 of an hour.

Good luck with the next 4 years...if you survive.

I refer the honorable gentleman to the first line of my signature.

This is for the ladies. If you have a penis I know that you will give me a load of shit. Knowing that in advance, please just zip it.
I will try to not be too self serving.
I'm a single financially independent man. I prefer commercial pussy. I've been in the game about four years. ECCIE and P411 have never disappointed. With one exception (cash and dash) I have thoroughly enjoyed your company. You all know me by this handle on ECCIE and a different one on P411. I have several OKAYs on P411. Read the comments made by me by searching me on ECCIE.
I am generous and not demanding. I have helped ladies in financial distress by loaning or giving not small sums of money. I've bought two cars, paid rent, I even bailed out one of your boyfriends to the tune of $5500, and paid bondsman for some ladies in trouble. I've paid legal fees to assist in clearing criminal charges. I even paid tuition to assist in completing a degree. I have taken providers on fabulous travels to the Carribean and thru-out the U.S. I have never (until now) been taken advantage of.
After getting to know you it is my interest to, with explicit permission, push limits. I have never been refused.
I've never had a lick of trouble. One provider stopped returning my calls for reasons I think I understand after which she gave me an OKAY on P411,and that's fine.
So, here is the story. I met a provider new to the game in July. She and I met a few times and I introduced her to my expanded interests. She was totally on board. We had a blast together. She got hooked up with a pimp and was fortunately able to escape but she had nothing but the clothes on her back. I gave her $1900 to buy a car, $500 for incidentals, $2000 in advance for future visits with me, bought her two iPads and two cell phones. She and I agreed on an allowance that in essence paid her $30,000 a year. Her part of the agreement was to see me two hours a week or perhaps more for dinner out in addition to occasional unspecified overnights. I also promised $1000 a day when we traveled together. She agreed. So I see her and I pay her the monthly allowance in advance. We agree on a week in the Carribean and I buy her a round trip non-refundable ticket. Suddenly she doesn't return calls then contacts me telling me to never contact her again. She continues to post here so I know that she is still in the game. This is a bit of a rant but this goose with the golden eggs is a bit perplexed. By the way, I always contact providers through P411 using a different handle. Those of you who know me by both please don't leak it to ECCIE. I just needed to blow off a bit of steam. Rocky50 Originally Posted by rocky50

Damn. Wish I had been the object of your affections, rocky. One extremely kind and unforgettable fellow on here treated me similarly for half a decade, and we were in lust until he passed away in 2012. He never had to question his priority in my life. I miss him still, and not just the money.

Sorry, hon. Sounds more than generous, but alas, a wee bit naive. The Hobby is a tough world. You may have had some lovely experiences before, but you can't use those as a template, especially when trusting a new provider. You might be a wonderful man, but some ladies will take advantage of that, especially those who are chronically in need of help as they can't seem to help themselves. If you could have researched her more, you may have come across startling info. Seems like she just continued taking and taking and taking with little giving in return, and you should have seen that as a red flag and stopped sooner. Might have trickled your blessings out a little at a time over time, as the gent I mentioned did until I earned his confidence. Again, I am sorry for your loss of money AND loss of faith. Both hurt, the latter more than the former and for a longer period.

However, to be fair we need to hear her side. Maybe you are the Marquis de Sade? I won't hold my breath that she comes in here, however.

Did you cancel the airplane ticket? I'm available.

Rocky,

I hear your rant, but what kind of input is it that you are looking for? Are you trying to figure out if you did something wrong to merit the silence? Are you looking for the ladies who sympathize with you? Or are you simply looking for a new lady to replace your SB/ATF?

As you know, you sound like a very nice and generous guy based on your account of yourself. As we all know, there are always two sides to the story. Based on your post, her actions are unjustified and silly. If you have given her so much, why wouldn't she return your calls?

You specifically mentioned that you pushed boundaries with explicit consent, might it be that she no longer wishes to consent to allowing you past her boundaries, and she doesn't want to have that conversation because it's uncomfortable? Maybe she only consented that because she was afraid to lose her greatest benefactor, but in the long run she realized that regardless of the numerous benefits, she was no longer happy with sharing herself in certain ways with you. Or she has other benefactors just as generous who aren't after anything that she is not offering. Any man that goes beyond my boundaries, or tries to get me to consent to expand the boundaries will not be getting a call back from me ever. I myself have happily let go of regulars gone bad and legit offers of steady income (1,000/day - a man who tried to bbfs me). Believe it or not, some things don't have a price.

Anyway, I'm sorry thing happened to you. I hope that you have taken something positive from this experience and that you have better relations in the near future. As Fancy mentioned, any lady would (should) be grateful to have you as her benefactor, especially if you are as kind as you are generous. Maybe better communication might do the trick. I know that's a two-way street, so I hope you find someone that you can be on the same page with.

Warm wishes,

Johanna

You shouldn't put that much cash into hookers man. You fuck em and let em kick rocks. Don't buy em extra shit like iPads and phones. Damn sure don't bail pimps out of jail. If you act like a chump the bitchs will treat you like a chump. You shoulda expected this.

Rocky, you are a VERY generous guy. Too damn generous. I thought I was a generous dude until I read your post. From the generosity you have given I would begin to think that you bring in a fairly hefty salary or are making tons of money from a business you own. Making the type of money you make would seemingly come with a fairly high level of intelligence. However, your actions say otherwise because they are not so intelligent. I can understand the generosity...to a point.

I've been in the hobby for 7 years now and have helped out a few girls with rent, hotel rooms, meals, etc. It only took one of them to burn me with the supposed offer of free sessions for helping her out. Chick left town and to quote a line from Spike Lee's "School Daze" movie..."I ain't seen no PAAAARRRTTTTTSSSS of the PUSSY!" What I lost with that one provider pales in comparison to what you have shelled out. I hope what you have gone through will help you change some things.

You have to learn to set boundaries for yourself. It sounds like you get off on being a rescuer. That's all well and good, as long as you set limits for yourself. You obviously surpassed where your limits SHOULD have been because you allowed yourself to let go of enough money to upset you when things didn't work out. Learn the lesson and do not ever do that again. Every time you start to hand over any amount of money in advance, pause and ask yourself if you would be upset if she and that money took off without so much as a thank you. If the answer is yes, adjust accordingly. You can start to ease your limits a bit when dealing with a lady with whom you've built trust over time. But just be aware that this can ALWAYS happen. No matter how well you know the person.

All that being said, I require no rescuing and have no interest in a Sugar Daddy, but I'm always down for a Caribbean getaway. If you dive, even better.

You're generous and kind, but also naive.

You have to learn to set boundaries for yourself. It sounds like you get off on being a rescuer. That's all well and good, as long as you set limits for yourself. You obviously surpassed where your limits SHOULD have been because you allowed yourself to let go of enough money to upset you when things didn't work out. Learn the lesson and do not ever do that again. Every time you start to hand over any amount of money in advance, pause and ask yourself if you would be upset if she and that money took off without so much as a thank you. If the answer is yes, adjust accordingly. You can start to ease your limits a bit when dealing with a lady with whom you've built trust over time. But just be aware that this can ALWAYS happen. No matter how well you know the person.

All that being said, I require no rescuing and have no interest in a Sugar Daddy, but I'm always down for a Caribbean getaway. If you dive, even better. Originally Posted by CarolineDavenport

Ohh, ohhh

I love diving...

It shows with that look on your face too....

Sounds like you can afford it. You're generosity was bound to back fire eventually. Once in four years is probably better than I'd have guessed. I still can't figure out why the second iPad? Live and learn.