PSE without Greek

IMHO, in order to true pse, greek must be on the menu. In fact, I feel it is at the essence. Comments?

Irish

Not really. Very few major porn stars offer greek, so it's not imperative in the escort world either. I do offer this as an option in mine, but I would never suggest another lady do something she is not comfortable with. There are many other things that can be considered pse such as cim, cof, face painting, rimming, strap ons, or hardcore bondage even.

I never thought of it that way. I thought I had visited PSE Ladies but I have never experienced, and don't want to, experience Greek. I guess it is in the eye of the beholder. I would make sure that the activities that I was interested in were on the menu.

Chipper

Not all pornstars do greek. in the porn industry the people are tested at minimum at least every 30 days. There is higher risk of contracting aids when having anal sex, I doubt most escorts/clients whip out recent test and id before a session. So greek is not always feasible

Well actually a bbbj and cim are BOTH more dangerous than Greek WITH a condom.

Well actually a bbbj and cim are BOTH more dangerous than Greek WITH a condom. Originally Posted by London Rayne

So True London!

Well actually a bbbj and cim are BOTH more dangerous than Greek WITH a condom. Originally Posted by London Rayne

If you have a cut in your mouth ;-) Your ass is more porous (idk if i spelled that right) and much tighter which leaves more of a chance of anal tearing & bleeding & condom breakage, which is why its sooo dagerous

True PSE is with a porn star or someone acting as if in a scene in a porn which greek is not always part of .

I don't want to open the whole can of worms as to what defines PSE or GFE because both terms are so vague that it is open to one's personal definition. As a client, I would tend to think that if we were to categorize Greek activity then it would most appropriately fit in the PSE world. Yes, I fully understand that not all porn includes Greek. I'm also aware that porn stars who provide may or may not offer Greek. The only reason I say Greek lends itself to the PSE category is because it is an "over the top" activity that most would consider kinky or extreme ala a Porn Star Experience. I know that if I'm interested in Greek, I'll be more apt to search known PSE type providers first before looking at GFE or regular providers.

I don't think greek has to be part of a PSE either.

IMHO, PSE is more of an "all about me" experience where a GFE is more of a mutual pleasure arrangement.

Porn Stars don't seem to do much kissing these days and lean more towards satisfying the guy's needs at the ladies expense. PSE seems more like just detached, raw sex.

I would expect a GFE to have lots of kissing, DATY and hopefully a good (or faked) "I'm really into you" attitude.

For me, that attitude and feeling of being connected (even if I know its just an illusion) is what GFE is all about. <just my 2 cents>

Porn Stars don't seem to do much kissing these days and lean more towards satisfying the guy's needs at the ladies expense. PSE seems more like just detached, raw sex.
Originally Posted by Biggayal

Agreed!

True PSE is with a porn star or someone acting as if in a scene in a porn which greek is not always part of . Originally Posted by AmericanGeisha

I have to agree with Tatiana since she is/was in the industry.

I could go either way on this, and I guess it doesn't matter, as long as you know what you're getting when you enter into the bargain. Looks to me like the vast majority of porn performers nowadays must do Greek and CIM in order to meet market expectations. Some of the real stars don't do Greek, but not many. On the other hand, I have been with both porn performers and porn stars that provide Greek in their videos, but not in their personal sessions. It would be accurate to say that most of them don't, and if they do, it's an upsell service. I actually saw one gorgeous porn star from Czech land (Rita Faltoyano) who said she was known as "the anal queen of Europe." She told me she had done anal in over 300 videos, including double anal. But it was not on the menu when I saw her. Still, my session with her was definitely PSE.

As to what defines a PSE session, I agree with the ladies that the "anything goes" attitude, although kind of indefinable, really has a lot to do with what is and isn't PSE. I saw a porn star named Jessica Jaymes one time, and she is one of those who don't do anal on or off screen (at least, as of that point in her career a couple of years ago). But she was totally balls-out in session, so I think of my time with her as PSE. Of course, she really WAS a porn star, so that helped. FWIW, I have found that many of the local providers here in the Dallas area advertise GFE/PSE, almost as if it's the same thing, but when you get down to it, there's no "P" there, in menu or in service level. Not saying they're not great anyway, just that the term gets abused a lot.

I think we all have our own definition of PSE. Hell for me it could be as simple as leaving those high heel shoes on during a seccion. Most porn movies I've seen the ladies keep them on so I get that immage in my head. To each there own on what defines PSE.

Interesting thread I definitely learnt a lot...