Time to speak my mind.

Im not one for starting drama, so I will leave all names out of this.

BUT I have something to say.

I have heard from SEVERAL people (about 6 at this point) that there is a popular provider out there (again, I wont mention any names) telling her clients that if he sees any other girls she will be mad at him. (In the times she finds out about it she makes rude comments, or stops talking to them, then eventually makes up to ask *multiple men* for more money or favors) The first time I thought the guy just didn't wanna write a review or something(which is fine), so I just ignored it... but then I heard it from someone else, and someone else, and someone else, and so on. This has been happening for about a year with this one particular provider and I have heard other ladies say she does the same thing to them.

THAT is ridiculous. Ladies (if this applies to you) These men are not "Your property" they are our clients and they are free to see whoever they want to. Everyone has different tastes, maybe they want a spinner one week, a bbw the next week and someone else the week after. If they wanted to fuck the same girl every week they would probably get a girlfriend. Either way it doesn't matter who they see. This should be common sense.

Also men, allowing someone to manipulate you like this is stupid.

I have been trying to brush it off for about a year but I received another "pm" today from someone wanting to see me as long as I didn't tell this other provider. First of all I will never share who I see with other providers, but you fellas need to stand up for yourself.

Im sure someone will have something negative to say about this thread, but its common sense that once the session is over, what they do with their personal time is THEIR business as long as it is not causing a threat to the community.

With that being said, men and ladies, if you EVER need a reference check or would like me to verify you, I am MORE THAN WILLING to do that, as long as I have seen you and there were no issues. I would SO MUCH rather you be safe and see verified ladies.

Oh, and I forgot to ad that last year I asked the same provider for a couple reference checks and found out she offered the client a lesser rate if he would come to her instead.

Destiny, it's a nice post, but I put the responsibility 100% on the guys when it comes to this one. If a girl can get the guy to commit all his hobbying time and money to her, that's good salesmanship on her part. However, the guy is weak as hell for allowing it to happen. I've had a few girls over the years that gave me some flack for seeing other girls - and I simply stopped seeing the ones that gave me flack. It's one thing to be pussywhipped in a regular relationship, but to be pussywhipped in the hobby is a special kind of weak.

I have been trying to brush it off for about a year but I received another "pm" today from someone wanting to see me as long as I didn't tell this other provider. First of all I will never share who I see with other providers, but you fellas need to stand up for yourself.
Originally Posted by DestinyInKC

Great post sweetheart...listen I agree and you are correct. Next time a guy says "dont tell other providers" (granted this should not be done anyhow) you need to check the guy and see if he has balls!

I wont be manipulated by any provider in that way...and the provider that does this will never see another dime of mine

Keep up the great work sweetheart!

I agree with you, but this particular lady tends to offer quite an extensive menu for a cheap rate. If I were a guy I may just fall for it too, but yes I completely agree with you. A couple of the men stopped seeing her all together because of this, others that put up with it are obviously not thinking clearly.

I just don't think its right for a provider to even put a guy in that position in the first place, then lowballing providers offers because they asked for a reference check is a whole other issue. Luckily the men I asked for the reference check declined her lowballing offer (as far as I know), but the reference check thing was last year and is not still currently happening since I stopped asking her. I have no idea if she is doing that to other ladies.

Cue all the gents in the fan club of the Lady Who Never Says No all staring nervously at each other.

Well I believe bringing it to the forefront was good....bottom line babe you have to run your biz the way you see fit and understand not all girls will play by the same rules.
You are ethical and have a great name...and if a guy wants is cheaper then maybe you dont need them after all.
Your rate is what you value your time at and if someone else doesn't ....let em be and move on.

Honey just do your biz your way and remember what goes around will come around...called Karma!

I just don't think its right for a provider to even put a guy in that position in the first place, then lowballing providers offers because they asked for a reference check is a whole other issue. Luckily the men I asked for the reference check declined her lowballing offer (as far as I know), but the reference check thing was last year and is not still currently happening since I stopped asking her. I have no idea if she is doing that to other ladies. Originally Posted by DestinyInKC

To kind of answer your question; yes, I am pretty sure that it still goes on. I thought that the fun in this was variety as you mentioned in your original post. I don't work in KC much anymore, but the menu and lower rates do seem to attract some guys. Do we want to see them? Maybe.. maybe not. I guess we just have to advise potential clients, "I'm sorry babe, but she is not a good reference for me, do you have someone else that may actually provide a reference?"

It kills me as to why she will just not tell her clients, "that she is not reference friendy...DO NOT USE ME." Maybe it is so she can contact them to offer a lower priced option. I don't know.... I often get the same guys using me as a reference over and over, although I know that they have seen other ladies after me. I can only assume that's it's because I actually do answer other ladies requests for references and in a timely manner. As long as the poor behavior is rewarded, it will continue to perpetuate. Thanks for always getting back in a timely manner for a reference check Destiny. You are a class act.

+100 I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
I know a girl like that. I called 2 providers this week and got hung up on.. lol I find it funny

Im not one for starting drama, so I will leave all names out of this.

BUT I have something to say.

I have heard from SEVERAL people (about 6 at this point) that there is a popular provider out there (again, I wont mention any names) telling her clients that if he sees any other girls she will be mad at him. (In the times she finds out about it she makes rude comments, or stops talking to them, then eventually makes up to ask *multiple men* for more money or favors) The first time I thought the guy just didn't wanna write a review or something(which is fine), so I just ignored it... but then I heard it from someone else, and someone else, and someone else, and so on. This has been happening for about a year with this one particular provider and I have heard other ladies say she does the same thing to them.

THAT is ridiculous. Ladies (if this applies to you) These men are not "Your property" they are our clients and they are free to see whoever they want to. Everyone has different tastes, maybe they want a spinner one week, a bbw the next week and someone else the week after. If they wanted to fuck the same girl every week they would probably get a girlfriend. Either way it doesn't matter who they see. This should be common sense.

Also men, allowing someone to manipulate you like this is stupid.

I have been trying to brush it off for about a year but I received another "pm" today from someone wanting to see me as long as I didn't tell this other provider. First of all I will never share who I see with other providers, but you fellas need to stand up for yourself.

Im sure someone will have something negative to say about this thread, but its common sense that once the session is over, what they do with their personal time is THEIR business as long as it is not causing a threat to the community.

With that being said, men and ladies, if you EVER need a reference check or would like me to verify you, I am MORE THAN WILLING to do that, as long as I have seen you and there were no issues. I would SO MUCH rather you be safe and see verified ladies.

Oh, and I forgot to ad that last year I asked the same provider for a couple reference checks and found out she offered the client a lesser rate if he would come to her instead. Originally Posted by DestinyInKC

I agree, its the guy's problem. Pussy whipped by a provider.....

Im not one for starting drama, so I will leave all names out of this.

BUT I have something to say.
Originally Posted by DestinyInKC

Totally agree with you Destiny. Thank you for your post.

You are a great young lady.

Just one input from this one. I have noticed that there are some ladies whose recommendations have more value to other ladies. I have been told twice that one lady that I used as a reference had no value.

A second lady that I used has been immediately accepted by three ladies, all within 10 minutes of my first call. She was out of town all three times, but text messages seem to do wonders when the ladies know and like each other.

It requires paying attention, and asking the ladies the right questions to discover who's recommendations carry more weight. When I have asked who in particular had given a good recommendation: all the ladies become closed mouth about anyone in particular. OK, I agree with that. But it is nice to learn that "someone" passed the word that I was "a real sweetheart". Everyone likes to know when nice things are said about them.

Pay attention to the details everyone. Play safe.

JR

great post miss sexy!!

quote--These men are not "Your property" they are our clients and they are free to see whoever they want to.

AMEN!!

Ok I am a gal with an extensive menu & low rates...BUT
I can assure yall that I am NOT the gal she is talking about...

My theory...share and share alike!!! Lets all get along and do what we wanna do with who we wanna do...:NO HOGGING ALLOWED"!!! lol

Wow. Its pretty sad that I got messaged by OVER 15 people who know who this particular provider is. I'm not naming names so dont ask me.

But every single one of you who messaged me guessed right. Wow some of the stories I just heard. I guess its happening waaay more than I thought. And I guess there are even more providers she is doing it to than I originally thought also.. this amazes me that you guys let her do this lol.


With that being said, nobody guessed any other names, which tells me all you other kc ladies are stand up ladies. Thank you for not stepping on each others toes and act like adults. With the exception of one lady.

I debated on whether or not to post on this thread but decided what the hell! Destiny BELIEVE ME I understand what you're saying, I think we all do!! But HATERS are going to HATE! Guys, I don't get it! To me the whole point of hobbying is to be DRAMA FREE. If you wanted to be chastised by someone I believe a majority of you could get that at home!! But if I'm not right that's what a majority of you are TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM. So please STOP allowing these types of people to control YOU. Why do YOU care if a HOOKER is MAD at YOU???

(Drops the Mic)

Continue on....

Thank you hun I completely agree.

Its crazy to me how many men are pming me saying she does it to them... yet nobody will stand up and say it to warn the others.

I guess us ladies know who not to get a reference check from.

Honey, you don't need to tell me her name. She's been doing it to me for over a year. I've gotten to where I tell guys not to bother with a review if they've reviewed her, because its a guarantee he will get an angry PM asking "Why you that ho?!". Screw it. Its not worth it. If a guy gives me her name as a reference, I just ask him if he has any other references to provide.