It Took FBI Less Than A Day To Discover Trump Conspiracy Theory Was Bogus
The TDS leftwingers on this board along with the TDS LSM pushed this bogus story for YEARS and now not a word out of the shameless leftwing supports of hellary and this terrible disinformation...and the want to sensor what they perceive as disinformation!! The trial is just getting started and the "russian collusion" hoax is already being testified to by James Baker as being the bogus bullshit it is!!
Republican National Convention: Day Four
DIANA GLEBOVA
ASSOCIATE EDITOR
May 17, 2022
5:24 PM ET
An FBI agent said Tuesday that it took him and another agent “less than a day” to determine the allegation about former President Donald Trump having ties to a Russian financial institution was false and pushed by Hillary Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussman.
FBI Supervisory Special Agent Scott Hellman said “it took him and another agent less than a day to ascertain the data and ‘white papers’ on two thumb drives Sussmann gave Baker did not support the Trump-Alfa Bank ‘secret connection’ allegation,” according to The Epoch Times’ national affairs reporter John Haughey. Hellman was on the stand during the first day of Sussman’s trial for allegedly lying to the FBI.
Sussman is on trial for telling FBI General Counsel James Baker months before the 2016 election. Sussman claimed that he wasn’t working for “any client” when he presented him with “white papers” and purported data that were supposed to show Trump had a “covert communications channel” with Russian-tied financial institution Alfa Bank. The indictment against him states he was working for the Clinton campaign and Tech Executive-1, not independently. (RELATED: Dem Lawyer At The Top Of Major Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory Indicted For Allegedly Lying To FBI)
John Durham, the special counsel appointed by the Trump administration to review the Russia investigation, asked Sussman to be indicted for the alleged falsehood in September of 2021.
Hellman did an examination of the “white papers” and thumb drives for any hacking before putting them through a “technical review” and cross referencing them, Haughey said.
Hellman concluded that the data showed there was no “secret connection” between Trump and Alfa Bank and “whoever had written that paper had just come to conclusions not supported by the technical data,” according to Haughey.
The FBI general counsel also said “the methodology they chose was questionable” and “it just didn’t make sense to us. Why would a presidential candidate put their own name on a supposedly secret domain name?” Haughey said.
Trump has sued Clinton and Sussman, among other Democrats, for “malicious” allegations that his 2016 campaign colluded with Russia. He is seeking $24 million in damages.
“Seeking to thwart Trump’s campaign and to diminish the likelihood of him winning the election, the Clinton Campaign and the DNC devised a nefarious scheme to discredit, delegitimize and defame him by proliferating a false narrative that Donald J. Trump and his campaign were actively colluding with Russia to interfere in the 2016 Presidential Election,” the lawsuit states.
FBI General Counsel James Baker says...it took "less than a day" to determine the russian collusion was BOGUS and was pushed by hellary's campaign against Trump.
- bb1961
- 05-19-2022, 06:57 PM
- WTF
- 05-19-2022, 07:14 PM
Rudy should be prosecuted for lying about voter fraud then!
Hell this lawyer isn't even connected that Clinton knew what he was doing. Trump damn sure knee Rudy was lying and trying to delegitimize Bidens win in 2020.
So Trump is doing to Biden, what he claims Clinton did to him.
Hmmmmm
Hell this lawyer isn't even connected that Clinton knew what he was doing. Trump damn sure knee Rudy was lying and trying to delegitimize Bidens win in 2020.
So Trump is doing to Biden, what he claims Clinton did to him.
Hmmmmm
- Salty Again
- 05-19-2022, 10:45 PM
... Blimey! ... Look at that! ... Whataboutism in its purist form.
You surely seem scared
there, mate.
Try not to wet yer knickers 'till the trial is over.
### Salty
You surely seem scared
there, mate.Try not to wet yer knickers 'till the trial is over.
### Salty
- Yssup Rider
- 05-20-2022, 12:22 AM
LOL!
The pot calling the cattle black.
Pun intended, yinzers, the bullshit is deep in Pierogistan.
The pot calling the cattle black.
Pun intended, yinzers, the bullshit is deep in Pierogistan.
- dilbert firestorm
- 05-20-2022, 12:57 AM
- The_Waco_Kid
- 05-20-2022, 01:10 AM
- Why_Yes_I_Do
- 05-20-2022, 05:08 AM
Liking the way it looks that Sussman is going down faster than YR does rimming someone. But my instinct is a lot of the folks in the middle are going to skate. Baker doesn't seem clean handed, yet is crushing Sussman at the moment. Upside could be that the middle gets away, but the top crime bosses get hammered. I would be OK with that, I s'pose. 
- bambino
- 05-20-2022, 07:41 AM
Liking the way it looks that Sussman is going down faster than YR does rimming someone. But my instinct is a lot of the folks in the middle are going to skate. Baker doesn't seem clean handed, yet is crushing Sussman at the moment. Upside could be that the middle gets away, but the top crime bosses get hammered. I would be OK with that, I s'pose.Yes, when do birds sing? Looks like Baker is.
- Why_Yes_I_Do
- 05-20-2022, 08:15 AM
- WTF
- 05-20-2022, 09:03 AM
... Blimey! ... Look at that! ... Whataboutism in its purist form.You think I'm scared?
You surely seem scared
Try not to wet yer knickers 'till the trial is over.
### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again
All Biden has to do is pardon him like Trump did his Russian lovers. Flynn, Manafort.....
- WTF
- 05-20-2022, 09:06 AM
- WTF
- 05-20-2022, 04:00 PM
Have any of you Trump loving numbnuts kept up with the actual testimony?
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/20/polit...ker/index.html
Takeaways from a critical witness in the John Durham probe's first trial
By Marshall Cohen, CNN
Updated 12:51 PM ET, Fri May 20, 2022
Attorney Michael Sussmann departs the federal courthouse in Washington, May 17, 2022.
Attorney Michael Sussmann departs the federal courthouse in Washington, May 17, 2022.
(CNN)Special counsel John Durham's case against a Hillary Clinton campaign lawyer got a boost from pivotal testimony from one of the FBI's former top officials this week.
The trial of Michael Sussmann stems from Durham's three-year inquiry into potential misconduct tied to the FBI's Trump-Russia probe. It has become a vehicle to revive partisan grievances about the 2016 election and is the first courtroom test of Durham's controversial investigation.
Former FBI general counsel James Baker, who is easily Durham's most important witness, told a jury about his September 2016 meeting with Sussmann, the Clinton lawyer charged with lying to the FBI. Prosecutors argued that he concealed his political ties while passing along a tip about Donald Trump's possible links to Russia. He pleaded not guilty.
Here's a breakdown of Baker's exhaustive testimony, which lasted more than seven hours across three days:
Baker bolsters Durham's case
Not only did Baker back up a big Durham claim about what Sussmann said at the meeting, but he testified that he is "100% confident" that Sussmann uttered the allegedly false statement.
"Michael started to explain why he was there, and he said that he was not appearing before me on behalf of any particular client," Baker said Thursday about their meeting, endorsing Durham's central theory that Sussmann falsely denied that he came to Baker on behalf of any clients.
The "100% confident" line matters because the defense is questioning Baker's credibility, due to his differing accounts over the years about the fateful meeting, which took place on September 19, 2016.
Baker said Sussmann led him to believe that he "was coming to see me as a good citizen who had obtained some information that he wanted to share with me." He described Sussmann as "a friend of mine, and a colleague" and told the jury he "trusted that the statement was truthful."
In opening statements, assistant special counsel Brittain Shaw said Sussmann tried "to use and manipulate the FBI" by allegedly lying to Baker about his political clients, spurring an FBI probe into the Trump-Russia tip, and garnering press coverage "to create an October surprise" that would help Clinton win.
The FBI was "wary of being played" and was "very wary of being sucked into that kind effort," Baker said, explaining why he would've liked to know if Sussmann came on Clinton's behalf.
Did the alleged lie even matter?
To win a conviction, Durham must convince the jury beyond a reasonable doubt that Sussmann lied to Baker, and that the lie was "material" enough to influence the FBI's actions or decisions.
If Sussmann told Baker during the meeting that he was representing Clinton, Baker said he "would have asked more questions," and may have brought in the FBI agents who handled the Clinton email investigation, or the agents who were handling the early Trump-Russia probe.
This testimony might help undo some of the damage from FBI agent Scott Hellmann, who performed the initial technical analysis of Sussmann's tip, and earlier testified that he wouldn't have done anything differently about the data if he had known it originated from a partisan source.
Also, one day before the meeting, Sussmann texted Baker that they urgently needed to talk, saying, "I'm coming on my own -- not on behalf of a client or company." Durham didn't charge this as a false statement, but it could influence jury deliberations. Baker testified that he wouldn't have scheduled the meeting if Sussmann disclosed that he was representing the campaign.
The defense has argued that the alleged lie didn't matter -- and wasn't "material" -- because Sussmann was well-known within the FBI for representing the Democratic National Committee after it was hacked by Russia. Baker acknowledged in cross-examination that by the time he met Sussmann, he was aware of about Sussmann's work for the DNC and Clinton campaign.
Defense hits Baker's credibility
The verdict may turn on how the jury views Baker's credibility. Sussmann's lawyers tried to chip away at that during a cross-examination that highlighted how Baker shifted answers to key questions when testifying to Congress in 2018, to the Justice Department watchdog in 2019, in his interviews with Durham's prosecutors, and on the witness stand during this trial.
"They want you to believe Mr. Baker's memory is clear, but you will see Mr. Baker's memory is clear as mud," Sussmann attorney Michael Bosworth said during opening statements.
Jurors saw transcripts of Baker's past testimony, such as when he once said Sussmann told him during their meeting that the tip about Trump came from cyber experts who "were his clients." (In addition to the Clinton campaign, Sussmann represented tech executive Rodney Joffe, a cybersecurity expert who worked with data scientists to compile the Trump-Alfa data.)
Baker admitted Thursday that his trial testimony was "inconsistent" with that prior testimony.
Defense attorney Sean Berkowitz got Baker to acknowledge that it was the prosecutors who "triggered my memory" of what happened at the 2016 meeting. Baker said Durham's team refreshed his recollection by showing him notes that an FBI official took of their conversations.
Berkowitz also suggested Baker was testifying to save his own skin, because Baker was the target of a separate leak investigation that Durham led around the time he started examining the Russia probe. With leading questions, Berkowitz raised the idea that Baker changed his story about the Sussmann meeting to become Durham's start witness and solve his legal problems.
Baker slams 'terrible' partisan congressional probes
While Baker was Durham's star witness, he made clear that he was only trying to testify truthfully and wasn't going out of his way to throw his "friend and colleague" under the bus.
"I'm not out to get Michael," Baker said Wednesday, shortly after Durham put him on the stand. "This is not my investigation, this is your investigation. You ask me a question, I answer it."
Baker, a former CNN analyst, directed his sharpest rebukes at the House Republicans who led a congressional inquiry in 2018 into how the FBI handled the Clinton and Trump probes in 2016. Baker and other top FBI officials gave depositions for the GOP inquiry, and he said Thursday it was "upsetting and appalling to see members of Congress behaving the way they were behaving."
"It was terrible. It sucked at multiple levels," Baker said.
"It sucked because the allegation was somehow that the FBI had engaged in some kind of improper activity with respect to Mr. Trump," he added. "My friends and colleagues had been pilloried in public, improperly in my view, and we were accused of being traitors and coup-plotters, and all of this was totally false and wrong."
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/20/polit...ker/index.html
Takeaways from a critical witness in the John Durham probe's first trial
By Marshall Cohen, CNN
Updated 12:51 PM ET, Fri May 20, 2022
Attorney Michael Sussmann departs the federal courthouse in Washington, May 17, 2022.
Attorney Michael Sussmann departs the federal courthouse in Washington, May 17, 2022.
(CNN)Special counsel John Durham's case against a Hillary Clinton campaign lawyer got a boost from pivotal testimony from one of the FBI's former top officials this week.
The trial of Michael Sussmann stems from Durham's three-year inquiry into potential misconduct tied to the FBI's Trump-Russia probe. It has become a vehicle to revive partisan grievances about the 2016 election and is the first courtroom test of Durham's controversial investigation.
Former FBI general counsel James Baker, who is easily Durham's most important witness, told a jury about his September 2016 meeting with Sussmann, the Clinton lawyer charged with lying to the FBI. Prosecutors argued that he concealed his political ties while passing along a tip about Donald Trump's possible links to Russia. He pleaded not guilty.
Here's a breakdown of Baker's exhaustive testimony, which lasted more than seven hours across three days:
Baker bolsters Durham's case
Not only did Baker back up a big Durham claim about what Sussmann said at the meeting, but he testified that he is "100% confident" that Sussmann uttered the allegedly false statement.
"Michael started to explain why he was there, and he said that he was not appearing before me on behalf of any particular client," Baker said Thursday about their meeting, endorsing Durham's central theory that Sussmann falsely denied that he came to Baker on behalf of any clients.
The "100% confident" line matters because the defense is questioning Baker's credibility, due to his differing accounts over the years about the fateful meeting, which took place on September 19, 2016.
Baker said Sussmann led him to believe that he "was coming to see me as a good citizen who had obtained some information that he wanted to share with me." He described Sussmann as "a friend of mine, and a colleague" and told the jury he "trusted that the statement was truthful."
In opening statements, assistant special counsel Brittain Shaw said Sussmann tried "to use and manipulate the FBI" by allegedly lying to Baker about his political clients, spurring an FBI probe into the Trump-Russia tip, and garnering press coverage "to create an October surprise" that would help Clinton win.
The FBI was "wary of being played" and was "very wary of being sucked into that kind effort," Baker said, explaining why he would've liked to know if Sussmann came on Clinton's behalf.
Did the alleged lie even matter?
To win a conviction, Durham must convince the jury beyond a reasonable doubt that Sussmann lied to Baker, and that the lie was "material" enough to influence the FBI's actions or decisions.
If Sussmann told Baker during the meeting that he was representing Clinton, Baker said he "would have asked more questions," and may have brought in the FBI agents who handled the Clinton email investigation, or the agents who were handling the early Trump-Russia probe.
This testimony might help undo some of the damage from FBI agent Scott Hellmann, who performed the initial technical analysis of Sussmann's tip, and earlier testified that he wouldn't have done anything differently about the data if he had known it originated from a partisan source.
Also, one day before the meeting, Sussmann texted Baker that they urgently needed to talk, saying, "I'm coming on my own -- not on behalf of a client or company." Durham didn't charge this as a false statement, but it could influence jury deliberations. Baker testified that he wouldn't have scheduled the meeting if Sussmann disclosed that he was representing the campaign.
The defense has argued that the alleged lie didn't matter -- and wasn't "material" -- because Sussmann was well-known within the FBI for representing the Democratic National Committee after it was hacked by Russia. Baker acknowledged in cross-examination that by the time he met Sussmann, he was aware of about Sussmann's work for the DNC and Clinton campaign.
Defense hits Baker's credibility
The verdict may turn on how the jury views Baker's credibility. Sussmann's lawyers tried to chip away at that during a cross-examination that highlighted how Baker shifted answers to key questions when testifying to Congress in 2018, to the Justice Department watchdog in 2019, in his interviews with Durham's prosecutors, and on the witness stand during this trial.
"They want you to believe Mr. Baker's memory is clear, but you will see Mr. Baker's memory is clear as mud," Sussmann attorney Michael Bosworth said during opening statements.
Jurors saw transcripts of Baker's past testimony, such as when he once said Sussmann told him during their meeting that the tip about Trump came from cyber experts who "were his clients." (In addition to the Clinton campaign, Sussmann represented tech executive Rodney Joffe, a cybersecurity expert who worked with data scientists to compile the Trump-Alfa data.)
Baker admitted Thursday that his trial testimony was "inconsistent" with that prior testimony.
Defense attorney Sean Berkowitz got Baker to acknowledge that it was the prosecutors who "triggered my memory" of what happened at the 2016 meeting. Baker said Durham's team refreshed his recollection by showing him notes that an FBI official took of their conversations.
Berkowitz also suggested Baker was testifying to save his own skin, because Baker was the target of a separate leak investigation that Durham led around the time he started examining the Russia probe. With leading questions, Berkowitz raised the idea that Baker changed his story about the Sussmann meeting to become Durham's start witness and solve his legal problems.
Baker slams 'terrible' partisan congressional probes
While Baker was Durham's star witness, he made clear that he was only trying to testify truthfully and wasn't going out of his way to throw his "friend and colleague" under the bus.
"I'm not out to get Michael," Baker said Wednesday, shortly after Durham put him on the stand. "This is not my investigation, this is your investigation. You ask me a question, I answer it."
Baker, a former CNN analyst, directed his sharpest rebukes at the House Republicans who led a congressional inquiry in 2018 into how the FBI handled the Clinton and Trump probes in 2016. Baker and other top FBI officials gave depositions for the GOP inquiry, and he said Thursday it was "upsetting and appalling to see members of Congress behaving the way they were behaving."
"It was terrible. It sucked at multiple levels," Baker said.
"It sucked because the allegation was somehow that the FBI had engaged in some kind of improper activity with respect to Mr. Trump," he added. "My friends and colleagues had been pilloried in public, improperly in my view, and we were accused of being traitors and coup-plotters, and all of this was totally false and wrong."
- Salty Again
- 05-20-2022, 04:06 PM
... Crikey! ... Even MORE "Whataboutism!"
Joe needs to do is pardon Hillary.
... 
- bambino
- 05-20-2022, 04:09 PM
- WTF
- 05-20-2022, 04:17 PM