Somebody Help me Understand!!

This past weekend, I contacted three different providers, in a attempt to setup meetings on Saturday and Sunday. PM's were send threw P411 and ECCIE for verification. Then after they had asked for verification PM's to be sent, they go silent. Then Monday and tuesday, I receive messages asking if I want to set something up????

HELL NO, never with these providers. I wanted a appointment on Saturday and Sunday, not Monday and Tuesday. If I ran my company this way, I would be OUT OF BUSINESS.

Why do providers think everything should be on there schedule when we, the customer, is the one paying? Someone help me here....

Sorry, just venting!!

And the worst part, all three were posted on P411 as available. Why list you are available if your not?

They no longer allow advertising on P411. This is the only
way they can advertise.

Without particular names, it is hard to specifically comment, however some general tips I offer any gent looking to set things up:

1. Do your research. Make sure they are reputable providers with "good tcb" as a standard listed on their reviews. This is a clue that they are reliable when trying to schedule with them.

2. Do not wait until same day/last minute to try and schedule with someone. This usually never works out.

3. Your approach: how did you word your request? I know for myself, I am more likely to respond quickly to someone who sends me a thoughtful and well worded message.


Aside from that, this is also part and parcel of the biz, unfortunately. A lot of ladies are slow to respond and do not have the best tcb protocol.

Sorry you had some issues, but do not let it deter you! Gl to you in your future endeavors.


And P.S. The same things happens in reverse, just so you know. I can't tell you how many times I have gents contacting me, they supply their screening info, I do all that work, message them back that we are good to go and I hear, "Ok thanks, I will let you know sometime." Or, I just never hear back from them at all.

It is frustrating to be sure, but also, as I said, just part of the biz.

P411 has a Available Now page that providers can put them self into when they are available NOW!

They no longer allow advertising on P411. This is the only
way they can advertise. Originally Posted by Steely Dan

P411 has a Available Now page that providers can put them self into when they are available NOW! Originally Posted by junoson

This is correct. Not sure what you mean SD? P411 has an "available now" option for us to use. It creates a listing that stays up for a couple of hours.

P411 has a Available Now page that providers can put them self into when they are available NOW! Originally Posted by junoson

....and that page is nearly worthless because a lot of the hooktards view it as advertising their availability sometime, maybe this week...but only occasionally NOW.

Even a mutt with beaucoup okies should expect no results on most of his enquiries to escorts listing in the P411 "Available Now" section.

It appears Gina has become lax in cracking the whip she used to use to good effect.

If you look at the Available NOW page right now, there is 18 providers listed. I contacted two of them, and they were NOT available and looking to schedule after 4pm today.

I just mark them as EXCLUDE - that way I never schedule with them again.

I sent comments to staff to help fix this

I sent comments to staff to help fix this Originally Posted by junoson

Good. Can't blame hooktards for acting like hooktards; the problem is with P411. I used to be one of its biggest fans; now..not so much.

In regards to the "Available Now" section, providers have the option to select if they're "available anytime" or to modify it to the time frame (specific hours) that they are available. Some clients seem to not know this and assume everybody who has a post there is available at that very moment. A lot of times if not most that may not be the case.

I'm personally never available at "anytime" I need at least 2 hours advance notice. Very rarely I'd be available in less than 2 hours notice and that's only for clients I have already seen and have my hobby #.

To your point of your OP I find it unprofessional and somewhat inconsiderate that they didn't at least reply the same day to say they couldn't accommodate your request. Especially since they posted that day and there was a communication exchange between you and them.
I always reply to all requests addressed properly via p411, even if it is to let them know I cannot accommodate them. But that's just me. Everybody runs their business in their on way...

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If I ran my company this way, I would be OUT OF BUSINESS.
... Originally Posted by junoson

Unless their skills are better than everyone else's, they won't make it. Supply and demand drives the market. TTL

I wanted a appointment on Saturday and Sunday, not Monday and Tuesday. If I ran my company this way, I would be OUT OF BUSINESS.

Why do providers think everything should be on there schedule when we, the customer, is the one paying? Someone help me here....!! Originally Posted by junoson

Let me help you Jun. You have mongers who continue to do business with these chicks in spite of the fact that these chicks TCB skills are in the tank!! You are correct when you say if you ran your business that way, you would be out of business. However, you have a RW business. These chick are running a business in the Hobby World (HW). There is a BIG difference. In the RW, your customers would simply go somewhere else. In the HW, you have some desperate mongers who can't get pussy anywhere else. Therefore they, unlike RW customers, tolerate and compund the poor TCB skills. Furthermore, it's these same mongers that make it impossible for the rest of us to improve TCB skills across the board by not seeing these type of ladies. So the bottom line is get over the lackluster TCB skills or get out of the hobby or...get a couple of regulars like me who have great TCB skills, along with some other excellent skills (which are not the topic of your thread Sir).

In regards to the "Available Now" section, providers have the option to select if they're "available anytime" or to modify it to the time frame (specific hours) that they are available. Some clients seem to not know this and assume everybody who has a post there is available at that very moment. A lot of times if not most that may not be the case.

I'm personally never available at "anytime" I need at least 2 hours advance notice. ...
Originally Posted by Natalia Mori

Your ads are clear on that subject. In my opinion they defeat the purpose of an "available now" section, but I don't blame you for seizing the opportunity afforded by the P411 guidelines...even if the guidelines seem goofy. Regardless, your ads aren't the cause of my discontent.

P411 was always a verification site first, a marketing tool second.

To clarify, P411 no longer allows the line advertisements such as we utilize here on ECCIE, although it once did. Provider profiles, banners, Top Ten and Featured placement, Animated GIFS, Visiting spots, and that "Available Now" feature are the remaining promotional options, the first and last being the ONLY free choices. The rest can cost significant sums!

I understand the frustration, but it isn't entirely fair to blame providers who use "Available Now." I never do, as I am NEVER available spur of the moment, but as I understand it once a provider turns that on it stays up for 2 hours, so if they get an immediate appointment they can't turn it off and WILL have to turn away other gents. (I have to admit that I didn't know that it could be set for specific time periods, as Natalia noted. I may have to look into and make use of that.)

How would Gina "crack the whip?" Alas, there is always abuse of any system, but how would she verify that the providers hadn't gotten booked? Usually I just get a PM there with a follow-up phone call, and try as I might to encourage gents to stick with P411 protocol and USE the official appointment request form, most don't.

"Available Now" can have two definitions in my view;

1. Available to see someone NOW. Yes, some providers actually go to their incall for a set period of time (ie: 10-4) and are actually available to take calls during that time. This is the most effective way for a provider to make a solid income, but only a few do it this way, unfortunately.

2. Available today, but Available NOW to discuss a booking time. This is the more common use, unfortunately. I think it's still an appropriate use of the Available Now board, while I don't like it as much as 1.

As far as policing the use of the board to eliminate those who abuse it, I'm open to suggestions! I just have no idea how I am supposed to figure out who is truly available now, according to the two scenarios listed above. I do ask clients to let me know if there is a provider using the board in another manner, so I can address the issue with her.

I realize what we have going isn't perfect, but I can tell you that we work very hard each and every day trying to make the site better. Your input and feedback is always welcome.

Always,
Gina