MAGAS: Answer me this, if Trump won 2020...

Dear MAGAs
I have but a few, simple questions, if you could enlighten me.


If Trump did in fact, actually and truly won the 2020 election, then why hasn't he been put into office? If he truly did in fact win, and the election was stolen, why didn't he or anyone else in his camp actually do something real to reclaim his office? Not relying on volunteers and unpaid labor to 'take back Washington'.


If your big man was actually the president for the last 3 years, what's his excuse to have done nothing? Boomer or not, if someone decided not to do their job for THREE YEARS, . . . why do you continue to want them to do the same job?


And, if Trump DID win and was in fact the President for the past 3 years, which is his second term, then why do you want him to violate the 22nd amendment of the Constitution that states a president can only serve two terms?

I wish you the best of luck in getting any direct answers to these 🤞

Thanks. It's just a honest question. Explain to me your logic and reasoning, so that we may better understand one another. I don't think that's much to ask, is it?

Not in the real world, no.

Thanks. It's just a honest question. Explain to me your logic and reasoning, so that we may better understand one another. I don't think that's much to ask, is it? Originally Posted by onawbtngr546

... Mate, explain directly what questions you have
and I will do me level best to answer them.

### Salty

... Mate, explain directly what questions you have
and I will do me level best to answer them.

### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again

1. If Trump did in fact, actually and truly won the 2020 election, then why hasn't he been put into office?
2. If he truly did in fact win, and the election was stolen, why didn't he or anyone else in his camp actually do something real to reclaim his office? (Not counting J6th as everyone there was unpaid, uncoordinated volunteers)

3. If your big man was actually the president for the last 3 years, what's his excuse to have done nothing? Boomer or not, if someone decided not to do their job for THREE YEARS, . . . why do you continue to want them to do the same job?
4. And, if Trump DID win and was in fact the President for the past 3 years, which is his second term, then why do you want him to violate the 22nd amendment of the Constitution that states a president can only serve two terms?



I anticipate your reply. Cheers

You’re clearly asking after the Q folks. Please don’t conflate their position with the constitutionalists who represent Trump’s base, but I’ll do my best to answer your inquires.

1. Trump isn’t in the White House because the election was stolen. After Pence failed in his responsibility to turn the votes around, Trump’s only option was to launch a coup or fight it in the courts. He chose the latter option and here we are.

2. Trump fought the election in the courts. Now he’s being charged with conspiracy for challenging the outcome of the election in the courts. Imagine getting arrested after suing an employer for wrongful termination, it’s like that.

3. The Q folks argue that Trump is still commander in chief, not that he’s still president. These are two offices, usually held by the same sitting President. In regards to doing something, the Q folks argue that he is, by unmasking the deep state. But the semantics here are immaterial, it’s plain to see what a mess Biden has made of the country. Would you have preferred a Trump coup? That was his only other option.

4. He’s running for his second term as President. The commander in chief of the armed forces of the United States is a position without set terms, so there’s no 22nd amendment violation if he still holds that position.

If you don’t understand the election fraud, I’ll spell it out for you. The Hunter Biden laptop story was suppressed by the media, which is election interference. Social media censored conservative speech, which is election interference. Liberal justices made substantive changes to the way elections were conducted, allowing vote by mail and ballot harvesting, which is very illegal and constitutes election interference. Mail in ballots aren’t signature verified so there is no way to tell which votes are cast legitimately, which throws the whole election into doubt.

Again, Trump tried to challenge this in the courts and was charged with conspiracy. Ken Paxton was winning these cases in Texas and dems tried to impeach him. News coverage of these goings on are being suppressed and legal action used to silence dissent. That should tell you a lot about the state of our country.

Thanks for the replies!

4. He’s running for his second term as President. The commander in chief of the armed forces of the United States is a position without set terms, so there’s no 22nd amendment violation if he still holds that position.

If you don’t understand the election fraud, I’ll spell it out for you. The Hunter Biden laptop story was suppressed by the media, which is election interference. Social media censored conservative speech, which is election interference. Liberal justices made substantive changes to the way elections were conducted, allowing vote by mail and ballot harvesting, which is very illegal and constitutes election interference. Mail in ballots aren’t signature verified so there is no way to tell which votes are cast legitimately, which throws the whole election into doubt.

Again, Trump tried to challenge this in the courts and was charged with conspiracy. Ken Paxton was winning these cases in Texas and dems tried to impeach him. News coverage of these goings on are being suppressed and legal action used to silence dissent. That should tell you a lot about the state of our country. Originally Posted by MrWonderland

If Trump is still the CiC, then again, what has he been doing? Surely not commanding the armed forces to put him back into the white house.



On the topic of election interference, what about the recording that came out right after the election, of Trump asking George to 'find me enough votes to win'? https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...ry?id=75027350
How is that not being considered election interference?

Because he’s not president or commander in chief… you’re picking on the Q Crowd… they are equally as insane as the hard left… big difference being, none of the Q crowd is openly calling for pedophiles to be integrated into society and be referred to as “minor attracted persons”

So give me the choice between a delusional group of people who think Donald Trump has been the president for 7 years, or a delusional group of people who think pedophiles are discriminated against… i choose the Q people every day that ends in Y.

The 2020 election was absolutely not stolen.

If that's your starting point, you're living in a fantasy land. Nothing else said after that is going to matter. The entire premise is false.

Thanks for the replies!



If Trump is still the CiC, then again, what has he been doing? Surely not commanding the armed forces to put him back into the white house.



On the topic of election interference, what about the recording that came out right after the election, of Trump asking George to 'find me enough votes to win'? https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...ry?id=75027350
How is that not being considered election interference? Originally Posted by onawbtngr546

asking to find enough illegal votes to turn the contest is not election interference.

asking to find enough illegal votes to turn the contest is not election interference. Originally Posted by chizzy

“The people of Georgia are angry. The people of the country are angry, and there's nothing wrong with saying that, you know, that you've recalculated,” Trump said on the call. "All I want to do is this: I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have... Fellas, I need 11,000 votes, give me a break."


This doesn't sound like 'find all of the legal votes'. It sounds like 'find votes for me'

asking to find enough illegal votes to turn the contest is not election interference. Originally Posted by chizzy

He was trying to use the power of the U.S. Presidency to shake down the Georgia state AG. He was telling him to "find me the votes" and made a veiled threat by saying how angry everybody was. Classic mob boss bullshit. Only this time, he was trying to rig an election, which makes him unfit to defend the U.S. Constitution and ever hold office again.

And unlike any of trump's claims of "illegal votes" or "voter fraud", the Georgia state AG actually had evidence.

“The people of Georgia are angry. The people of the country are angry, and there's nothing wrong with saying that, you know, that you've recalculated,” Trump said on the call. "All I want to do is this: I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have... Fellas, I need 11,000 votes, give me a break."


This doesn't sound like 'find all of the legal votes'. It sounds like 'find votes for me' Originally Posted by onawbtngr546

... THAT is not the full telephone call.
You should be asking for the full phone call.
Then you'd understand they were counting illegal votes.
That the Trump barristers wanted to take to a Judge
to get a ruling. ... Which Raffensberger stalled on
and did not want to happen because a Judge might then
pause Georgia's Certification.

... I've layed this out before.

... THIS will all come out at Trial - but then as we've seen,
Fani Willis doesn't want a Trial.

#### Salty

1. If Trump did in fact, actually and truly won the 2020 election, then why hasn't he been put into office?
2. If he truly did in fact win, and the election was stolen, why didn't he or anyone else in his camp actually do something real to reclaim his office? (Not counting J6th as everyone there was unpaid, uncoordinated volunteers)

3. If your big man was actually the president for the last 3 years, what's his excuse to have done nothing? Boomer or not, if someone decided not to do their job for THREE YEARS, . . . why do you continue to want them to do the same job?
4. And, if Trump DID win and was in fact the President for the past 3 years, which is his second term, then why do you want him to violate the 22nd amendment of the Constitution that states a president can only serve two terms?



I anticipate your reply. Cheers Originally Posted by onawbtngr546

... Let me get to a couple more of your questions, mate.

... Trump WAS on his way to Winning the election until
four or five states ALL PAUSED the vote counting
around midnight of election night. All about the same time.

This pause - in those "swing states" was to give the
Dems time to see just how far Trump was ahead - and how
many votes ..er.. ballots they would need to win those states.

And in states such as Georgia and PA - they counted
illegal votes to "win"...

Here in PA - they counted for days on end, remember?
Counting mail-in ballots without the proper signature
and date - in FULL VIOLATION of the State Constitution.

... The result? - The PA Supreme Court (mostly Dems)
surely ruled that they would count those votes - "this time"
because of the extraordinary hardship of Co-vid.

So here in PA - the courts allowed the violation
of their-own Constitution.

And WHY? - Because IF they didn't - Trump wins PA.

... And another of yer questions is WHY didn't Trump
or the others do anything REAL to reclaim it?

They did.

... Surely petitioned the Courts in a number of the
states - and the Judges wicked the lot of them away.
Mostly due-to the FACT that there was not enough time
for a proper trial before the 6 January certification date.

... That's why President Trump asked VP Mike Pence
to pause the Certification - and send the elections
back to the states in question and have them re-certify.

... Pence didn't believe that he himself had the proper
authority to do that.

... So the rest is history.

I do hope THAT answers a few of you questions and concerns, mate.

### Salty