Tell the Imperial President: No More Wars!

Oidealog and the RINOS better not get us into another Jihad


http://townhall.com/columnists/patbu...7502/page/full

Tell the Imperial President: No More Wars!
Pat Buchanan | Jul 01, 2014


Barack Obama has asked Congress for $500 million to train and arm rebels of the Free Syrian Army who seek to overthrow the government.
Before Congress takes up his proposal, both houses should demand that Obama explain exactly where he gets the constitutional authority to plunge us into what the president himself calls "somebody else's civil war."

Syria has not attacked us. Syria does not threaten us.

Why are we joining a jihad to overthrow the Syrian government?

President Bashar Assad is fighting against the al Qaida-linked al-Nusra Front and the even more extreme and vicious Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.

In training and arming the FSA, we are enlisting in a cause where our foremost fighting allies are Islamists, like those who brought down the twin towers, and a Sunni terrorist army that seeks to bring down the government we left behind in Baghdad.

What are we doing?

Assad is no angel. But before this uprising, which has taken 150,000 lives and created millions of refugees, Congressmen and secretaries of state regularly visited him in Damascus.

"There's a different leader in Syria now," cooed Hillary in 2011, "Many of the members of Congress of both parties who have gone to Syria in recent months have said they believe he's a reformer."

If we bring down Assad, what assurance to do have that the Free Syrian Army will prevail against the Islamists who have proved far more effective in the field?

Will we not be compelled to plunge into the subsequent civil war to keep ISIS and al-Qaida from taking power?

If Assad falls there is also a high probability Syria's Christians will face beheadings and butchery at the hands of the fanatics.

And should martyrdoms and massacres begin with the fall of Assad because of our intervention, the blood of Christians will be on the hands of Barack Hussein Obama and the Congress of the United States.

Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin says he wants no part of Obama's new wars. Democratic Sen. Tim Kaine rightly asserts that President Obama has no authority to take us into war in Syria or Iraq.

But where are the Republicans?

Absent an attack on U.S. citizens or vital interests, or an imminent threat of attack, Obama has no authority to initiate war. The Constitution places the power to authorize wars of choice exclusively with Congress.

James Madison and his colleagues were seeking to ensure against a rogue presidency of the kind that Obama has lately begun to conduct.

It is astonishing that Republicans who threaten to impeach Obama for usurping authority at home remain silent as he prepares to usurp their war powers -- to march us into Syria and back into Iraq.

Last August, Americans rose as one to tell Congress to deny Obama any authority to attack Syria. Are Republicans now prepared to sit mute as Obama takes us into two new Middle East wars, on his own authority?

A congressional debate on war is essential not only from a legal and constitutional standpoint but also a strategic one. For there is a question as to whether we are even on the right side in Syria.

Assad, no matter his sins, is the defender of the Christian and Shia minorities in Syria. He has been the most successful Arab ruler in waging war against the terrorist brigades of ISIS and al-Qaida.

Why, then, are we training Syrians to attack his army and arming people to topple his government? Have we not before us, in Libya, an example of what happens when we bring down an autocrat like Gadhafi, and even worse devils are unleashed?

While Assad has battled al-Qaida and ISIS for three years, our NATO ally Turkey has looked the other way as jihadists crossed over into Syria. Our Gulf allies have provided jihadists battling Assad with arms and money.

Query: Why are our putative allies aiding our worst enemies?

This weekend ISIS declared a caliphate, the Islamic State, over all lands in Syria and Iraq it now controls. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the ISIS war chief, has been declared the new caliph.

"The Caliphate Rises," wails the Wall Street Journal.

But who midwifed and breast-fed the ISIS movement that has now proclaimed the new caliphate? Was it not our Turkish and Arab friends?

And whose army is the major obstacle to consolidation of a caliphate from Aleppo to Anbar? Is it not the army of the autocrat Assad whom we seek to bring down? Does this make sense?

We are told that ISIS represents a security threat to the United States.

But ISIS-controlled Syria and Iraq are on the border of Turkey, whose army could make short work of them. If the caliphate is not such a threat to the Turks as to warrant their intervention in Syria, how can it be a greater threat to us? It cannot.

Congress should block the $500 million for Obama's wars and tell him his days as imperial president are over.

I think Pat has it right -sadly but true but the republicans will ostracize Obama either way- if Assad wins GOP will say well why didn't Obama help the rebels - if the rebels win GOP will say Obama allowed and unknown radical group to take over - although Assad is no angel I think he is the lesser evil of two just like Saddam had Iraq more secure than the powers to be- Saddam was a sworn enemy of Iraq so he would have kept them in check. Also Saddam was a moderate Muslim he wasn't a radical like Al-queda in fact under Saddam Iraq was westernized they has discos in night clubs during his reign. Women were allowed to be educated there wasn't Shariah law enforced but thanks to Bush 's lies we were duped into a 2 trillion dollar war. Hey whirly JD and IIFF do you have any idea what 2 trillion dollars could buy????

It is a sad state of affairs when you are forced to say good things about Saddam and his Regime.

But it's the truth.

The most reprehensible person in human history, Joe Stalin, help us defeat The Axis Powers in WW-2.

I think Pat has it right -sadly but true but the republicans will ostracize Obama either way- if Assad wins GOP will say well why didn't Obama help the rebels - if the rebels win GOP will say Obama allowed and unknown radical group to take over - although Assad is no angel I think he is the lesser evil of two just like Saddam had Iraq more secure than the powers to be- Saddam was a sworn enemy of Iraq so he would have kept them in check. Also Saddam was a moderate Muslim he wasn't a radical like Al-queda in fact under Saddam Iraq was westernized they has discos in night clubs during his reign. Women were allowed to be educated there wasn't Shariah law enforced but thanks to Bush 's lies we were duped into a 2 trillion dollar war. Hey whirly JD and IIFF do you have any idea what 2 trillion dollars could buy???? Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

Tell them oRINOS to kiss my "Classic Liberal Ass." http://www.ncpa.org/pub/classical-li...n-conservatism

Fuckers can't make up their minds, they displace a Sunni in Iraq then replace him with a Shiite. Then they want to displace a Shiite in Syria, and support Sunni's. But not if they are part of Al Qaeda or ISSIS. Then they wonder why we are hated.

Fuckers can't make up their minds, they displace a Sunni in Iraq then replace him with a Shiite. Then they want to displace a Shiite in Syria, and support Sunni's. But not if they are part of Al Qaeda or ISSIS. Then they wonder why we are hated. Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Uhhhh, but what about the MISSION ACCOMPLISHED banner?

$500 million? Seems like a pretty cheap war to me, boys!

Why couldn't have Bush have bought one on sale?

SNICK!

$500 million? Seems like a pretty cheap war to me, boys!

Why couldn't have Bush have bought one on sale?

SNICK! Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Makes sense... you would support the Odemons who will try to destroy Israel with our own money... Shit Eating "Dick Turd"...

Uhhhh, but what about the MISSION ACCOMPLISHED banner? Originally Posted by bigtex

bannerboy... check out Omonarch

Pat gets a lot more right than he gets wrong....sadly our citizens do not want to hear the truth.

Fuckers can't make up their minds, they displace a Sunni in Iraq then replace him with a Shiite. Then they want to displace a Shiite in Syria, and support Sunni's. But not if they are part of Al Qaeda or ISSIS. Then they wonder why we are hated. Originally Posted by i'va biggen

It's all madness. We helped train members of ISIS in Jordan. The intent was they would fight against Assad in Syria. But many of them splintered off to Iraq. So now we may very well end up fighting against people we helped train. Apparently not all Al Qaeda or ISIS are bad if they serve our interests. Egypt and Libya have become worse. Syria will become worse if Assad is ousted. All hell may break loose in Iraq. See a pattern. All this madness makes sense when you realize the goal is further destabilization of the region. On that they get an A+

Tell the Imperial President: No More Wars! Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

Please provide the link where you encouraged the MISSION ACCOMPLISHED "President: No More Wars!"

I'm just trying to determine whether you have the proper credentials or whether you're just full of hot air.

I suspect it is the latter, but I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.

When should we expect the link?

Halliburton stock is up 40% year to date. Getting ready.

The people who were wrong about Iraq are wrong about it again...