Trump’s vulnerabilities for 2024 mount after new testimony

How do you think Trump is handling this news?

How bout his faithful?

Seems like that ship is gonna sail, without him.

Maybe Biden won’t run and we’ll have a chance to pick for real.

Hopefully Trumpism will dry up and blow away.

https://apnews.com/article/2022-midt...bd8d80054c5d7e

Trump’s vulnerabilities for 2024 mount after new testimony

SIOUX CENTER, Iowa (AP) — Stunning new revelations about former President Donald Trump’s fight to overturn the 2020 election have exposed growing political vulnerabilities just as he eyes another presidential bid.

A former White House aide this week described Trump as an unhinged leader with no regard for the safety of elected officials in either party as he clung to power on Jan. 6, 2021. The testimony from the congressional panel investigating the Capitol attack provided a roadmap for prosecutors to potentially charge Trump with a crime, some legal experts say.

Republican voters — and Trump’s would-be rivals in the 2024 presidential race — took notice.

Here in Iowa, the state expected to host the first presidential nominating contest in roughly 18 months, several voters signaled Thursday that they were open to another presidential candidate even if Trump were to run again. At the same time, some conservative media outlets issued scathing rebukes of the former president. Aides for multiple GOP presidential prospects also indicated, publicly and privately, that they felt increasingly emboldened to challenge Trump in 2024 following the explosive new testimony.

Nikki Haley, Trump’s ambassador to the United Nations, drew roughly 350 conservative activists to a congressional fundraising barbecue on Thursday in Sioux County, where Trump won 82% of the vote in 2020.

And there was ample evidence of Trump fatigue. Interviews with a dozen attendees revealed strong interest in a 2024 alternative, even if Trump is on the ballot.

“You’d be hard-pressed to find people in this area who support the idea that people aren’t looking for someone else,” said Dave Van Wyk, a transportation company owner. “To presume that conservative America is 100% behind Donald Trump is simply not the case.”

For some Republican voters, that was the feeling even before this week’s stunning new testimony.

Former White House staffer Cassidy Hutchinson on Tuesday offered previously unknown details about the extent of Trump’s rage in his final weeks of office, his awareness that some supporters had brought weapons to the city on Jan. 6 and his ambivalence as rioters later laid siege to the Capitol.

Upset at the size of the crowd at his “Stop the Steal” rally — many supporters avoided entering because they were armed and didn’t want to go through metal detectors — Trump said words to the effect of, “I don’t care that they have weapons. They’re not here to hurt me,” according to Hutchinson. She recalled hearing about a separate incident after the rally in which Trump tried to grab at the steering wheel of the presidential vehicle to go to the Capitol to join his supporters.

That detail has caused some pushback. The agent who was driving the vehicle and another official were reportedly prepared to testify under oath that Trump never lunged for the wheel.

But the renewed concern was evident,

The conservative Washington Examiner’s editorial board said Hutchinson’s testimony “ought to ring the death knell” for Trump’s political career. “Trump is unfit to be anywhere near power ever again.”

The often Trump-friendly New York Post blasted the headline: “Tyrant Trump.” And the conservative editorial page of the Wall Street Journal wrote, “Just when it seems as if Donald Trump’s behavior after his 2020 loss couldn’t possibly look worse, a new piece of wild testimony arrives.”

To be sure, conservatives have shared serious concerns about Trump repeatedly in recent years. And in every case, the former president has emerged largely unscathed, sometimes stronger. He has been caught on video bragging about sexual assault; he instigated a violent attack on the Capitol; and he has been twice impeached.

Yet Trump is sitting on campaign funds that exceed $101 million and remains deeply popular with many Republican voters. Lest there be any question, Republican candidates from Arizona to Pennsylvania to Georgia have been battling one another this midterm season for his support.

“The American people remain hungry for his leadership,” Trump spokesperson Taylor Budowich said, citing Trump’s strong endorsement record and fundraising success. “And as another witch hunt is blowing up in the faces of Democrats, President Trump is in a stronger position now than at anytime before.”

But even before this week’s revelations, a new poll from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research found that 48% of U.S. adults say Trump should be charged with a crime for his role in the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.

Views on Trump’s criminal liability break down predictably along party lines, with 86% of Democrats and 10% of Republicans saying Trump should be charged. Still, the fact that nearly half the country believes he should be prosecuted is a remarkable position for the former president, pointing to the difficulties he could face if he makes another run at the White House.

Trump reported raising nearly $9 million in March and April combined. Figures for May and June were not yet available, but aides to the former president say his fundraising has remained strong.

Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, eyeing a presidential bid in 2024, says he was hearing concerns about Trump from donors and voters alike before this week’s testimony, which adds to the “cumulative weight” of the former president’s political shortcomings.

“People are concerned that we could lose the election in ’24 and want to make sure that we don’t nominate someone who would be seriously flawed,” Christie said.

Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan, who is also considering a 2024 run, said he considers Trump beatable in a GOP primary even if Republican voters aren’t paying close attention to the congressional hearings, as he suspects.

“His approval among Republican primary voters has already been somewhat diminished,” Hogan said in an interview. “Trump was the least popular president in American history until Joe Biden.”

Aides for other Republican presidential prospects said privately this week that Trump may still be the overwhelming favorite to win the next GOP presidential nomination, but they believe his standing with Republican voters has been in steady decline. There was a broad sense — or at least a hope — that Hutchinson’s testimony would accelerate that decline among voters and donors in a way that would open opportunities for others.

Marc Short, a senior adviser to former Vice President Mike Pence, another likely 2024 presidential contender, was blunt when asked about Trump’s political strength.

“Republican activists believed Donald Trump was the only candidate who could beat Hillary,” Short said. “Now, the dynamic is reversed. He is the only one who has lost to Joe Biden.”

Indeed, Trump’s would-be Republican competitors are leaning in.

Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney, who serves on the Jan. 6 commission and has not ruled out a 2024 presidential bid, cast Trump as a direct threat to American democracy in a Wednesday night speech at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library.

“Republicans cannot both be loyal to Donald Trump and loyal to the Constitution. We must choose,” she said.

Haley, who has said she would not seek the 2024 GOP nomination if Trump ran, declined to say Thursday whether the testimony has given her reason to rethink that plan. Instead, she sounded an upbeat note.

“If it looks like there’s a place for me next year, I’ve never lost a race, I’m not going to start now,” Haley told reporters. “I’ll put 1,000% in and I’ll finish it. And if there’s not a place for me, I will fight for this country until my last breath.”

Farmer Bob de Koning said he remains devoted to Trump. He plans to support him in Iowa’s leadoff caucuses no matter who runs.

But his wife, Kathy de Koning, said, “We can do better.”

“I just don’t know if he’s electable anymore,” she said.

Trump and his faithful followers will be there in 24. The truth of the matter is it doesn’t matter what the of who the Dems drag before their biased committee, it doesn’t matter because no one is watching or paying attention to any of it. I actually favor Desantis but will definitely vote for Trump should he win the nomination. Desantis has run Florida like a fine tuned Singer Sewing machine and will do the same for the USA. HOWEVER Trump for 4 years followed by RD for 8 would be fantastic. The Republicans have so many great choices it really doesn’t matter who they nominate , the Dems can’t mirror their great candidates. You really need to quit obsessing over Trump that ship has sunk. NOBODY CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE MOD SQUAD

Dems don’t really have anyone to run. Biden has fucked the economy up so badly that he’ll definitely get pushed out, but who’s the replacement? His affirmative action vp dropped before a single vote was cast, so who’s next? Hillary? Pete Buttplug?

The point of the article is in the final sentence

“I just don’t know if he’s electable anymore,” she said.

Bring DeSantis. He's well to the right of Trump, who's basically a carney. The people of America will stand against him like they stood against Trump.

But this thread is about Trump's popularity taking a hit among his faithful.

Feelings or not, that seems to be the trend.

The point of the article is in the final sentence

“I just don’t know if he’s electable anymore,” she said.

Bring DeSantis. He's well to the right of Trump, who's basically a carney. The people of America will stand against him like they stood against Trump.

But this thread is about Trump's popularity taking a hit among his faithful.

Feelings or not, that seems to be the trend. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

This thread is about nothing, it has no basis in facts.it’s what one would call an opinion, not a fact.

TDS is strong with him and VM...

The point of the article is in the final sentence

“I just don’t know if he’s electable anymore,” she said.

Bring DeSantis. He's well to the right of Trump, who's basically a carney. The people of America will stand against him like they stood against Trump.

But this thread is about Trump's popularity taking a hit among his faithful.

Feelings or not, that seems to be the trend. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Trump's Popularity is still better than Biden's. I can't believe anyone is still dwelling on Trump. The Democratic Party is just a bunch of old washed up losers and young misfits. This country needs something better.People are tired of the same old crap.

For a second there I thought this was going to be another TDS - J6 thread. Though I wonder why they never interview people at a F Joe Biden rally.

For a second there I thought this was going to be another TDS - J6 thread. Though I wonder why they never interview people at a F Joe Biden rally. Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

They can’t find anyone?….

Desantis will annihilate any democrat in 24. Likely Trump would win for a third time, but not as handily. Either is fine with me because policy outweighs personality, although Trump has a proven record on international affairs so if given the choice I’d say Desantis can hold off until 28.

The point of the article is in the final sentence

“I just don’t know if he’s electable anymore,” she said.

Bring DeSantis. He's well to the right of Trump, who's basically a carney. The people of America will stand against him like they stood against Trump.

But this thread is about Trump's popularity taking a hit among his faithful.

Feelings or not, that seems to be the trend. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Hell....he wasn't electable in 2020 either....he failed his first performance review...badly

Desantis will annihilate any democrat in 24. Likely Trump would win for a third time, but not as handily. Either is fine with me because policy outweighs personality, although Trump has a proven record on international affairs so if given the choice I’d say Desantis can hold off until 28. Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Covid ( although Trump was doing excellent work) illegal vote harvesting and an unbelievable biased media defeated Trump, Biden was the recipient of those3 liberal created events.

Will the Dems let Biden win the 2024 nomination, although there isnt any one in the liberal cesspool that can contend with any Republican winning the nomination.

Cesspool? Hay-soos, man! You're gonna hurt something.

The story makes a lot of sense. No matter what you "believe," he isn't president, and the vast majority of American voters made that happen.

Like MM said, he failed his first performance review badly. It'll be his last, too.

Chill, bro! You've still got choices.

Hell....he wasn't electable in 2020 either....he failed his first performance review...badly Originally Posted by matchingmole

Keep up you can, I detailed why he lost, wise folks get it

I happened over to Yahoo ewwwwwws political sight. OMF'nG the horse pucky they flip around as gospel truth is incredibly retarded. I couldn't take too much of the falsehoods presented as if they were actual facts. What utter nonsense. Total detachment from reality. No flip'n wonder the TDS crowd acts as though they have Mad Cow Disease. How did they ever eradicate MCD anyway? Pretty much the same as rabies infected critters? Zombie Land...