https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics...e-13693316.php
This left fucker scum communist is promising “ free “ money.
Every American 18 and over will get $1000 a month.
“ From the Government “
This is how the left operate. Lies and promising FREE MONEY
MAGA
AMERICA FIRST
TRUMP
- Bigrump2000
- 03-19-2019, 01:12 AM
- Levianon17
- 03-19-2019, 01:48 AM
Thats nothing but a scam. What ends up happening is the extra money every month throws you into a higher tax bracket and at the end of the year your refund is either greatly reduced or you end up paying. So its nothing but a scam. If something like that ever came to fruition, I would decline it.
- Yssup Rider
- 03-19-2019, 09:05 AM
https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics...e-13693316.phpI read it. I don’t agree with it, but I don’t believe this makes him a “left fucker scum communist.”
This left fucker scum communist is promising “ free “ money.
Every American 18 and over will get $1000 a month.
“ From the Government “
This is how the left operate. Lies and promising FREE MONEY
MAGA
AMERICA FIRST
TRUMP Originally Posted by Bigrump2000
Please elaborate.
How is this different for our bottom line than massive tax breaks for rich corporations?
Probably cheaper,
It’s a different idea.
It doesn’t make Yang scum.
He may wind up on Mount Rushmore, after all! Another five-star thread if’n Ever I Red wun.
- Bigrump2000
- 03-19-2019, 10:01 AM
I read it. I don’t agree with it, but I don’t believe this makes him a “left fucker scum communist.”The word FREE
Please elaborate.
How is this different for our bottom line than massive tax breaks for rich corporations?
Probably cheaper,
It’s a different idea.
It doesn’t make Yang scum.
He may wind up on Mount Rushmore, after all! Another five-star thread if’n Ever I Red wun.
- oeb11
- 03-19-2019, 10:10 AM
See article on Universal Income
- it is simply DPST pandering - I will give you "free Money" to vote for me. Concept has been tried and failed - but as usual - DPST's trumpet - We will do it Right!
DPST's have a very low pinion of the intellect of the American voter.
Universal Basic Income: An Idea That's Already Been Tried And Failed
https://www.investors.com/politics/c...eriments-fail/
With the madness of the midterm elections behind us, the sprint toward the 2020 presidential election has begun. And some Democrats eyeing to unseat President Trump have dusted off an old idea of theirs to drum up support: a universal basic income policy, or UBI for short.
But what exactly is a UBI?
Generally painted as a way to shrink income inequality, a UBI is a government guaranteed minimum income for everyone — regardless of employment status. In other words, a program that provides free money. And while the specifics of the policy sometimes differ, the gist stays the same — it's the most radical bloating of the welfare state since … well, ever.
While a policy like this may sound desirable in a campaign stump speech, in practice, it would have major consequences — including tax hikes that would be necessary to pay for the program and reduced work motivation, leading to less productivity.
Universal Basic Income: Not A New Idea
Two Democratic front-runners for 2020 are positioning themselves as champions of UBI-light policies — Kamala Harris and Cory Booker. They're not exactly treading new ground. During the last election cycle, Bernie Sanders flirted with the concept, and has been more vocal about supporting UBI since 2016. Hillary Clinton's book "What Happened" reveals that she would have liked to make UBI a larger part of her campaign.
While politicians often try to package UBI as a fresh new idea, the concept has been tried before. And unsurprisingly, it hasn't worked.
In 2017, Finland experimented with a pilot program, putting 2,000 randomly chosen Finns on UBI, with the government providing a monthly check of €560. But earlier this year, Finland abruptly decided to not extend its experiment. Although the Finnish government doesn't plan to release the findings until the end of 2019, some point to the program's price tag as one of the main reasons it was doomed to fail from the start.
In fact, according to an independent analysis, Finland would have been forced to raise their income tax by nearly 30% to keep such a program alive. And when the personal income tax rate in Finland already maxes out at more than 50%, another increase would likely prove unsustainable.
Finland is not the only example where the flaws of UBI have been exposed.
In Canada, Ontario's government decided to launch a UBI experiment in July of last year. But a few months ago, they decided to end the experiment — two years ahead of schedule. Upon the conclusion of the trial, a Canadian official called the experiment "quite expensive" and said "it was certainly not going to be sustainable."
Already Failed In The U.S.
Even here in the United States, a form of universal basic income has already been tested. From 1968 to 1980, the federal government ran a "negative income tax" experiment — meaning that a minimum income is guaranteed, but phased out as earnings increase. The goal was to incentivize work, but the policy ended up encouraging just the opposite.
The program resulted in a drop in working hours across the board. Most strikingly, working hours fell by 43% for single men not responsible for a family. To make matters worse, stints of unemployment were prolonged — meaning that after someone lost a job, it took them longer to begin a new one.
Democrats may attempt to use basic income program proposals to help build support in the 2020 presidential election, but they better hope Americans don't venture beyond their elevator pitch. Because after examining universal basic income programs of the past, it's clear the policies lack feasibility and weaken economic prowess.
If politicians want to gain the support of the American electorate, they should focus on policies that build off the economic success of the past year rather than undermine it.
- it is simply DPST pandering - I will give you "free Money" to vote for me. Concept has been tried and failed - but as usual - DPST's trumpet - We will do it Right!
DPST's have a very low pinion of the intellect of the American voter.
Universal Basic Income: An Idea That's Already Been Tried And Failed
https://www.investors.com/politics/c...eriments-fail/
- JOSEPH SEMPREVIVO
- 12/20/2018
With the madness of the midterm elections behind us, the sprint toward the 2020 presidential election has begun. And some Democrats eyeing to unseat President Trump have dusted off an old idea of theirs to drum up support: a universal basic income policy, or UBI for short.
But what exactly is a UBI?
Generally painted as a way to shrink income inequality, a UBI is a government guaranteed minimum income for everyone — regardless of employment status. In other words, a program that provides free money. And while the specifics of the policy sometimes differ, the gist stays the same — it's the most radical bloating of the welfare state since … well, ever.
While a policy like this may sound desirable in a campaign stump speech, in practice, it would have major consequences — including tax hikes that would be necessary to pay for the program and reduced work motivation, leading to less productivity.
Universal Basic Income: Not A New Idea
Two Democratic front-runners for 2020 are positioning themselves as champions of UBI-light policies — Kamala Harris and Cory Booker. They're not exactly treading new ground. During the last election cycle, Bernie Sanders flirted with the concept, and has been more vocal about supporting UBI since 2016. Hillary Clinton's book "What Happened" reveals that she would have liked to make UBI a larger part of her campaign.
While politicians often try to package UBI as a fresh new idea, the concept has been tried before. And unsurprisingly, it hasn't worked.
In 2017, Finland experimented with a pilot program, putting 2,000 randomly chosen Finns on UBI, with the government providing a monthly check of €560. But earlier this year, Finland abruptly decided to not extend its experiment. Although the Finnish government doesn't plan to release the findings until the end of 2019, some point to the program's price tag as one of the main reasons it was doomed to fail from the start.
In fact, according to an independent analysis, Finland would have been forced to raise their income tax by nearly 30% to keep such a program alive. And when the personal income tax rate in Finland already maxes out at more than 50%, another increase would likely prove unsustainable.
Finland is not the only example where the flaws of UBI have been exposed.
In Canada, Ontario's government decided to launch a UBI experiment in July of last year. But a few months ago, they decided to end the experiment — two years ahead of schedule. Upon the conclusion of the trial, a Canadian official called the experiment "quite expensive" and said "it was certainly not going to be sustainable."
Already Failed In The U.S.
Even here in the United States, a form of universal basic income has already been tested. From 1968 to 1980, the federal government ran a "negative income tax" experiment — meaning that a minimum income is guaranteed, but phased out as earnings increase. The goal was to incentivize work, but the policy ended up encouraging just the opposite.
The program resulted in a drop in working hours across the board. Most strikingly, working hours fell by 43% for single men not responsible for a family. To make matters worse, stints of unemployment were prolonged — meaning that after someone lost a job, it took them longer to begin a new one.
Democrats may attempt to use basic income program proposals to help build support in the 2020 presidential election, but they better hope Americans don't venture beyond their elevator pitch. Because after examining universal basic income programs of the past, it's clear the policies lack feasibility and weaken economic prowess.
If politicians want to gain the support of the American electorate, they should focus on policies that build off the economic success of the past year rather than undermine it.
- Yssup Rider
- 03-19-2019, 10:28 AM
I get that, oeb11. Chicken in every pot. Tax cut for all. Heard it every election since the first.
But do you believe that makes Yang scum, as posted in the OP?
But do you believe that makes Yang scum, as posted in the OP?
- oeb11
- 03-19-2019, 11:08 AM
Do Not ascribe to me that which I did not write.
SomeOne is baiting!
Please see DS post on enforcement of the Rules of Conduct in Forum
If SomeOne has a question about OP - address it to the OP.
"A chicken in every pot" - is not "Universal Income" - it referred to economic improvement from the Depression and Individual work ethic to support Oneself.
This is the advertisement that caused Herbert Hoover's opponents to state that he had promised voters a chicken in every pot and two cars in every garage during the campaign of 1928. During the campaign of 1932, Democrats sought to embarrass the President by recalling his alleged statement.
SomeOne is baiting!
Please see DS post on enforcement of the Rules of Conduct in Forum
If SomeOne has a question about OP - address it to the OP.
"A chicken in every pot" - is not "Universal Income" - it referred to economic improvement from the Depression and Individual work ethic to support Oneself.
This is the advertisement that caused Herbert Hoover's opponents to state that he had promised voters a chicken in every pot and two cars in every garage during the campaign of 1928. During the campaign of 1932, Democrats sought to embarrass the President by recalling his alleged statement.
- bamscram
- 03-19-2019, 11:12 AM
Someone else for the alt right to have a circle jerk about.
- oeb11
- 03-19-2019, 11:23 AM
- Yssup Rider
- 03-19-2019, 12:19 PM
BS- Off topic Originally Posted by oeb11Not so. There are 15 announced D candidates, I think. I expect at least 15 threads talking about how they're scum, communists, socialists, traitors, homos, etc.
So far, I've not been disappointed.
Why not merge all the threads into one DPST thread, oeb? You seem to like to lump all Democrats into that childish moniker.
- themystic
- 03-19-2019, 12:29 PM
https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics...e-13693316.phpDo we get free health too? Im in as long as the rich pay for it. What a lot of you dont understand is that the Jews and Saudis are GREAT friends of the Trumps. They have a lot of money. Maybe they are funding it. The Mexicans are running out of money since they are having to pay for that wall Trump is building. This is Awesome News! Thanks OP!!!!
This left fucker scum communist is promising “ free “ money.
Every American 18 and over will get $1000 a month.
“ From the Government “
This is how the left operate. Lies and promising FREE MONEY
MAGA
AMERICA FIRST
TRUMP Originally Posted by Bigrump2000
- Danielle Silver
- 03-19-2019, 12:36 PM
EVERYONE NEEDS TO GET THEIR COWS BACK IN THE BARN AND GET BACK ON TOPIC
- Guest050619-1
- 03-19-2019, 02:42 PM
- themystic
- 03-19-2019, 02:53 PM
- oeb11
- 03-19-2019, 04:35 PM
No such animal as "Free Money" universal Income - it comes from taxes and is a wealth re-distribution penalty for working folks who earn a living
It is simply expanded Welfare for All.
And an unsustainable largess, complicated by the fact that it pays people to not work.
And become parasites of the DPST socialist system.
Panders to lazy, unmotivated individuals who want to live in Mom's basement and collect Welfare.
As in Proponents of this - see above.
Why could AnyOne be upset about a Republican party identified as "DEAD"?
It is simply expanded Welfare for All.
And an unsustainable largess, complicated by the fact that it pays people to not work.
And become parasites of the DPST socialist system.
Panders to lazy, unmotivated individuals who want to live in Mom's basement and collect Welfare.
As in Proponents of this - see above.
Why could AnyOne be upset about a Republican party identified as "DEAD"?