I never went to those so i cant speak for them.
But i was at S1 & of course visited vip as well from time to time.
So i can only speak on what i know about.
Now, I have dabbled with a few places over the years since they closed what... 13 yrs ago...
Crap showing my age here... lol!!!
Anything i have experienced since has never touched the level S1 & Vip were on.
As far as being for the ladies and about the ladies.
Now that means a lot tho... Not just our safety but soooo much more.
More than any place I've had the privilege of experiencing since.
I don't doubt that there are some pretty darn good spot there that have been around.
I've just never gotten the pleasure to experience them personally.