How has hobbying affected your RW social skills?

For better or for worse?

This is not an infomercial but was just thinking about how this P4P business can make us Fellas lazy on the RW dating scene. Being social and able to communicate properly is very important in avoiding being a social misfit.

Does relying exclusively on the hobby rob you of those normal RW social skills? if you don't know how to talk to a woman you'll just say fuck it I will just pay for some conversation or throw money at it. If you're going this exclusivity route I would say just make sure you're also practicing your conversation skills with your provider because you will need them in other settings as well.

One thing I'm definitely working on since I added hobbying to my modus operandi is being fair in my views. I will admit sometimes I find myself looking at RW women through a soft focus escort lens. If I'm walking in the mall sometimes I'm thinking to myself I bet that bitch is an escort, I wonder how much? I'm pricing RW women now based on appearance.

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Good question Z...
Find myself in RW situations which I like to think I handle properly. The hobby world is so easy that it does sometimes make the RW complicated.

Appreciate the responses of the ladies here too!

What's a "RW dating scene?"

What's a "RW dating scene?" Originally Posted by Wakeup

To my point. You've been in the P4P game far too long.

Good question Z...
Find myself in RW situations which I like to think I handle properly. The hobby world is so easy that it does sometimes make the RW complicated.

Appreciate the responses of the ladies here too! Originally Posted by Ur_1_only

Yep it can make one lazy. It's like before all these smart phones guys had to actually hold good conversations. Now if you're a bad conversationalist you can sit at the dinner table playing on your iPhone. too easy

I think it all depends on you and the RW date. I know of at least one, she's flakey sure, but I'd say the hobby is a help with that one since that one has a self proclaimed freaky/kinky side.

but yeah, I never used to randomly wonder about a RW girl's situation (one I see out in public) and just what she's be up for. lol

To my point. You've been in the P4P game far too long. Originally Posted by Zanzibar789

Exactly incorrect...I've been it my entire life. I have absolutely no intention of dating anyone ever, nor of ever getting married, so I'm trying to understand how your question applies to me, so I can answer it.

Nothing in the hobby has changed my RW social interactions with women concerning sex, or anything else, they've always been this way.

I think I've become too spoiled. I'm used to gentlemen treating me quite a bit better in the Hobby than in dating. I mean, really, bringing me flowers and gifts, taking me nice places, giving me money to spend time with me... it's just amazing and ego-inflating. I can't imagine this translating to the Real World, especially not for a woman of my, ahem, age, not to mention stature and body type.

I will probably be bored to tears and feel quite unappreciated when/if I retire.

However, communication has never been an issue. I am social enough for 2 people, but also a good listener. I think most successful providers are chameleons, able to change as the situation warrants.

Seems this is actually the age-old question again; how good are men at adapting and evolving?

Exactly incorrect...I've been it my entire life. I have absolutely no intention of dating anyone ever, nor of ever getting married, so I'm trying to understand how your question applies to me, so I can answer it.

Nothing in the hobby has changed my RW social interactions with women concerning sex, or anything else, they've always been this way. Originally Posted by Wakeup

Personally I think its sad you've never gotten to enjoy the thrill of the chase in the RW, sounds like you've always paid, no matter the circumstance. I don't begrudge you for never wanting to date or get married but some people don't like running a rat race their entire lives. You sound like a pretty boring dude with very little meaningful social interactions; dare I say introvert?

I can look at this one of two ways. If nothing in the hobby has affected your RW social skills then 1.) you're missing something because by default there should be a fundamental difference between the two starting with the mindset of the woman. 2.) then congrats are in order, however, you shouldn't take that to mean you've reached the apex of male to female social interactions. It just means you're doing ok at the level and with the type of RW women you're comfortable playing with.

There's always a higher level that requires more (such as dating casually or otherwise) and I'm not just talking about sexy materialistic women in the RW , I'm also talking extremely bright and powerful sexy women that require work. However, whatever floats your boat.

At the end of my days I'm the kind of person that would like to know deep inside that there's at least one or two people that really love me, but that's just me. I will blame it on Mariah Carey and her dam Vision of Love song. ;-)

I think I've become too spoiled. I'm used to gentlemen treating me quite a bit better in the Hobby than in dating. I mean, really, bringing me flowers and gifts, taking me nice places, giving me money to spend time with me... it's just amazing and ego-inflating. I can't imagine this translating to the Real World, especially not for a woman of my, ahem, age, not to mention stature and body type.

I will probably be bored to tears and feel quite unappreciated when/if I retire.

However, communication has never been an issue. I am social enough for 2 people, but also a good listener. I think most successful providers are chameleons, able to change as the situation warrants.

Seems this is actually the age-old question again; how good are men at adapting and evolving?
Originally Posted by Fancyinheels

Ms Fancy your age and body type in the RW aren't the sole determining factor because guys can get just as tired of fucking crazy 20 yr old hotties at some point as well. If you find a guy that adores you the same thing will happen. Not every guy out there is looking for skinny model chics your own testimony of how your men in the hobby treat and adore you is the proof.

It has only effected me to the point where when I see very sexy woman of any race and especially is she is fine as frog hair, I'll think to myself "Damn, she's fine! If she is a provider I'm damn sure gonna book with her!". Basically WANTING women to be providers even if they're not.

I find that the hobby has actually increased my RW action. Since I know I can call up a provider I could care less if a girl goes home with me; which causes me to act like I could care less. Meaning I barely listen and do my own thing. Heck, I have changed topics in the middle of a girl talking because I honestly had no idea she was talking. I shagged her that night. This never happened before I started in the hobby world. I was always too eager to get the girl naked or make a long term relationship happen that I was putting too much pressure on them. Now, there is minimum pressure if any on the girls I date and they can't get enough of it. This makes no sense to me.

Personally I think its sad you've never gotten to enjoy the thrill of the chase in the RW

There's always a higher level that requires more (such as dating casually or otherwise) and I'm not just talking about sexy materialistic women in the RW , I'm also talking extremely bright and powerful sexy women that require work. However, whatever floats your boat.

At the end of my days I'm the kind of person that would like to know deep inside that there's at least one or two people that really love me, but that's just me. I will blame it on Mariah Carey and her dam Vision of Love song. ;-) Originally Posted by Zanzibar789

For me I do not buy into the chase idea anymore. I was raised real conservative and didn't get to chase until my 20s. I did that earnestly for about 5 years or so. Was engaged once. At this time I just date but not for anything other than fun. Not looking for some commitment of any kind just good times and experiences. Sex being the funnest of experiences gets top billing but obviously more hobbies than just that.

For some of us the chase is sad to watch. Why? Because many times someone is screwing around with the other and their artificial constructs of a relationship. Some guy is being the doting friend while the girl he pursues is whoring like a sailor.

Higher power level intelligent sexy? Yeah. That's cool. But turns out most of those people are just as petty as the rest of us at the end of the day. You know what's even better than having high level intelligent conversation? Fucking the brains out of a intelligent powerful woman like she owes you rent money. That's the love I love.

Higher power level intelligent sexy? Yeah. That's cool. But turns out most of those people are just as petty as the rest of us at the end of the day. You know what's even better than having high level intelligent conversation? Fucking the brains out of a intelligent powerful woman like she owes you rent money. That's the love I love. Originally Posted by Stromprophet

I don't disagree my point is that it takes some work to get there in the RW. With those kinds of women it all starts with conversation. Without revealing too much I've been with a pro athletes wife, beautiful blond, highly educated and married to a guy 100x richer than me. How did I pull it off? She determined she was ready and let me know. She could have any dude she wanted but it was conversation and more conversation that takes more than just basic conversation. This wasn't some run of the mill catch, sure luck played a part. ;-)

I think I've become too spoiled. I'm used to gentlemen treating me quite a bit better in the Hobby than in dating. I mean, really, bringing me flowers and gifts, taking me nice places, giving me money to spend time with me... it's just amazing and ego-inflating. I can't imagine this translating to the Real World, especially not for a woman of my, ahem, age, not to mention stature and body type.

I will probably be bored to tears and feel quite unappreciated when/if I retire.

However, communication has never been an issue. I am social enough for 2 people, but also a good listener. I think most successful providers are chameleons, able to change as the situation warrants.

Seems this is actually the age-old question again; how good are men at adapting and evolving?


Originally Posted by Fancyinheels

I agree. I have tried to date actually inside and outside of this hobby and I feel better with P4P and since I am a people person it is not turning a "trick" to me, I don't trick anyone! It's an honest friendly exchange that I try my best to make good on! And hell yes a ego booster. I found to many mooches in the rw.

As far as my rw it hasn't changed, I'm just more outgoing from the confidence that the gents in the hobby have given me! It has affected only my love life. Being divorced and dating I just gave up. Society won't accept this! So it has affected my life in that regards but I always say, I have a boyfriend for an hour at a time!

Other than my love life, I am discrete so it hasn't affected my home life, and I'm thankful to the gents who see me out and about and don't come up to me.

I use to be a nervous mess, talking to calm my own nerves and now I'm hardly that way anymore. The hobby is not ugly and awful and I'm thankful to my friends who come see me and help make me a living! I walk with my head up now, and not sure if I'll ever retire but my only regret is not starting and accomplishing more sooner!