RIP AMY

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RIP AMY WINEHOUSE

I LOVE YOU AND YOU WILL SO ALWAYS BE REMEMBERED, CHERISHED, AND IDOLIZED BY ME AND YOUR MILLIONS OF FANS. SLEEP IN PEACE NOW BABYCAKES. I LOVE YOU!



"I want my daughter to grow up to be just like Amy".
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  • 07-27-2011, 09:09 AM
"I want my daughter to grow up to be just like Amy". Originally Posted by Jackie S

Nobody wants their child to grow up with a drug addiction , just like no parent wants their child to get cancer. Drug addiction is an evil disease much like cancer.

You do not choose to have it....some folks can break away from it and unfortunatly some folks can't.
Drug addiction is an evil disease much like cancer. Originally Posted by WTF
No it's not.
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  • 07-27-2011, 09:34 AM
No it's not. Originally Posted by Headkeeper
Bad choice of diseases to compare it to ....my point was that it is not as many folks think. Some charchter flaw. Are you saying it is not a disease? Many people make that mistake.


http://www.medical-online.com/addict.htm


Addiction: A Neurological Disorder
Addiction is a neurologically based disease. For many years recovery specialists have compared alcoholism or addictions to a physical disease: like diabetes. In reality addictions are more closely related to a neurological disorder like Tourette's Syndrome* than they are to diabetes.
If the problems you suffer stem from severe alcoholism or addiction, you must accept that these problems are not primarily mental or free will issues. Addictions are not about will power. The problems facing addicts, alcoholics, and their families are miserable, disgusting, and infuriating. They are often hopelessly discouraging. But to imagine that an addict "could change if he wanted to" is a serious misunderstanding of the long term dynamic of addictive disorder. The fact is precisely that an addict cannot change in the long run even if he wants to! That is the definition of addiction: "the loss of control over the use of a substance." It is important to understand that this loss of control is manifested not in terms of days or weeks, but in longer term behaviors: terms of months and years. The reason addicts have lost control is because they have suffered permanent physical neurological changes based in their brains and nervous systems. The disorder manifests in long term obsessive-compulsive behaviors outside the realm of the addicts own control. It is true enough that the use of chemicals begins with chosen behavior. But if alcoholism or addiction develops, the problem has moved outside the realm of free choice. It has developed into a long term mental and physical neurological disorder. All the emotional 'feelings' involved in drug or alcohol seeking are based in neurology. Addiction is based in physical dependency created by altered neurotransmitter balances, and driven by millions upon millions of new living, functioning active neurological pathways which have been established to sustain the condition in the addicts brain. The new neurological pathways are permanently established, and they will not just disappear. The primary neurological disorder is only complicated by physical dependence on the substances. The physical dependence on the substances is secondary! Physical drug withdrawal does not change the underlying neurological addictive disorder. After drug withdrawal, long term overpowering cravings are predictable. These cravings are, in reality, spontaneous nerve impulses. Even in the longer term, overwhelming cravings are outside the addicts control.
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  • 07-27-2011, 09:46 AM
Amy was one of the best talents of our generation if you move past the headlines and actually listen to the musics. I will truly miss her and wish for what could have been for her. I wrote a blog about her. She was a truly great talent.

RIP Amy
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Amy was one of the best talents of our generation if you move past the headlines and actually listen to the musics. I will truly miss her and wish for what could have been for her. I wrote a blog about her. She was a truly great talent.

RIP Amy Originally Posted by ScarlettKiss
THIS is what my messaged to AMY for the world to see was intended for...NOT AN ARGUMENT ABOUT ADDICTION.
Thank you Scarlett. Some people can see right through the beauty of something and go straight for the eviil. To say they are "glass-is-half-empty-thinkers" is a sad sad understatement.
Thank you Scarlett for being a positive person who can find the love and beauty in a dead flower. Just as i can.
To the others, I feel sorry for you.
Are you saying it is not a disease? Originally Posted by WTF
I did not say it was not a disease. I have had experience with both and it's irresponsible to compare the two for sensationalism.

We have hijacked this tread (sorry) so for me the matter is closed.

RIP Amy....
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  • 07-27-2011, 10:32 AM
THIS is what my messaged to AMY for the world to see was intended for...NOT AN ARGUMENT ABOUT ADDICTION.
Thank you Scarlett. Some people can see right through the beauty of something and go straight for the eviil. To say they are "glass-is-half-empty-thinkers" is a sad sad understatement.
Thank you Scarlett for being a positive person who can find the love and beauty in a dead flower. Just as i can.
To the others, I feel sorry for you. Originally Posted by jamiejo
I was only trying to educate the Jackie S's of the world.

Having a daughter to grow up like Amy might have been a great thing.

His post was borne from ignorance on the subject of addiction , IMHO.

We can not bring back the dead but hopefully we all can learn something from something so tragic.

I loved her music btw





"I want my daughter to grow up to be just like Amy". Originally Posted by Jackie S
Here is your "great talent" in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FglBejpkbqE


Like I said, for all of you that idolize such behavior, just say, "I want my daughter to grow up to be just like Amy".

As great of a talent as Hank Williams was, I doubt many parents ever said, "I want my Son to grow up to be just like "ole Hank".
"ole Hank", a student of modern chemistry, died before he was 30, choking on his own puke in the backseat of a cadillac.
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  • 07-27-2011, 10:43 PM
Here is your "great talent" in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FglBejpkbqE


Like I said, for all of you that idolize such behavior, just say, "I want my daughter to grow up to be just like Amy".

As great of a talent as Hank Williams was, I doubt many parents ever said, "I want my Son to grow up to be just like "ole Hank".
"ole Hank", a student of modern chemistry, died before he was 30, choking on his own puke in the backseat of a cadillac. Originally Posted by Jackie S
You're right....everbody's momma probably was just like your momma, wanting their son to grow up and post reviews on a hooker board!
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why all this controversy? I don't get it and jackie, can u please show me where i said that i wanted my daughter to grow up to be like her? Or where my Mother said that? Or where I quoted that and incorporated it into my message? I didn't think you could. Thank you!
I see controversy at all. Amy Winehouse was simply a drug addict and a drunk.

The fact that she could carry a tune reasonably well when sober is secondary to this. There are literally thousands of Artist who are much better, and do not destroy themselves by choosing a lifestyle such as the one she chose.

Sorry, I don't buy this "addiction is a disease" crap. You don't choose to get the flu, chickenpox, malaria, polio, etc. Even people who come down with Lung Cancer do not choose that, though it is often a consequence of their actions. But that person who is an addict chooses to stick that needle in their arm, or down that quart of Old Crow in 1 hour.

I think the big question is why so many ultra talented people who seem to have it made resort to such destructive behavior.

All of us have pressures every day that can be overwhelming. The vast majority do not choose to bury their humanity in a addiction induced stupor.
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Hijacked the crap outta Jamiejos thread!!! Jamie, you are a sweet person and have a good heart. Your sentiments are noted.
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