Wow, who are these people

Well I guess no one should be surprised as we see some of the things the insane libs post here. But

While many voters have become skeptical toward the federal government’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic, a majority of Democrats embrace restrictive policies, including punitive measures against those who haven’t gotten the COVID-19 vaccine.

Insane survey of Democratic voters in a recently poll:

-55% support fines against unvaxxed
-59% support house arrest
-48% support prison for questioning vax efficacy on social media
-45% support internment camps
-47% support surveillance
-29% support the state taking their kids

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...t_unvaccinated

It’s easy to hypnotize sheep.

This Meme says it all;

https://t.me/BoldSpearElmerFudd/59663

I belong to a local Democratic FB page under one of my fake accounts, joined it when it was the "Riden with Biden" page.

Same people who at first wouldn't take the vax because Trump suggested it, are now rabib must be vaxed ten timers, lifetime mask wearers, etc.

What gets me, is just not the hatred, which is a huge thing for them, but, how quickly the sheep mind can change based on whatever new, better idea comes along.

Also, the fear they have for being outside Allegheny County, and into Trump Terrritory, they go places outside Pittsburgh and the signs, hats on people, yard signs scare them shitless.

And they are all convinced they are going to win the next civil war, because they know somebody that has a gun, and ammo.

Fuckin A, we buy a case of ammo, just because, with every gun purchase, I have been in National Guard Armories with less ordnance than some guys I know have in their basement.

They are truly sick and hateful people, the question always is though, who exactly is going to force us into interment camps?

Damn well I can tell you when it gets to that point, its not going to be just me shooting back.

https://t.me/rrndaily/165768

Devo- who / which side do you think is suggesting a civil war?

I hear more of that coming from the right vs. the left; but to that, I don't know of anyone suggesting internment or the like. People just start posturing about the other side and " we got the guns" part of the equation. But I can't see anyone shooting people today. Not to say there aren't some coocoos out there but not wholesale.

Devo- who / which side do you think is suggesting a civil war?

I hear more of that coming from the right vs. the left; but to that, I don't know of anyone suggesting internment or the like. People just start posturing about the other side and " we got the guns" part of the equation. But I can't see anyone shooting people today. Not to say there aren't some coocoos out there but not wholesale. Originally Posted by eyecu2

I guess you missed the BLM/Antifa riots last summer?

https://t.me/rrndaily/165770

Devo- who / which side do you think is suggesting a civil war?

I hear more of that coming from the right vs. the left; but to that, I don't know of anyone suggesting internment or the like. People just start posturing about the other side and " we got the guns" part of the equation. But I can't see anyone shooting people today. Not to say there aren't some coocoos out there but not wholesale. Originally Posted by eyecu2

I guess you missed the 45% of Democrats support internment camps for people who won't get the vaccine in the OP

Survey of 1,016 Likely Voters by Rasmussen Reports, LLC

January 5th, 2022


Do you have a very favorable, somewhat favorable, somewhatunfavorableor very unfavorable impression of Dr. Anthony Fauci?


Do you strongly favor, somewhat favor, somewhat oppose or strongly oppose President Biden’s plan to impose a COVID-19 vaccine mandate on the employees of large companies and government agencies?


Would you strongly favor, somewhat favor, somewhat oppose or strongly oppose a proposal for federal or state governments to fine Americans who choose not to get a COVID-19 vaccine?


Would you strongly favor, somewhat favor, somewhat oppose or strongly oppose a proposal to limit the spread of the coronavirus by having federal or state governments require that citizensremain confined to their homes at all times, except for emergencies, if they refuse to get a COVID-19 vaccine?


Would you strongly favor, somewhat favor, somewhat oppose or strongly oppose a proposal to limit the spread of the coronavirus by having federal or state governments require that citizens temporarily live in designated facilities or locations if they refuse to get a COVID-19 vaccine?


Would you strongly favor, somewhat favor, somewhat oppose or strongly oppose a proposal for federal or state governments to fine or imprison individuals who publicly question the efficacy of the existing COVID-19 vaccines on social media, television, radio, or in online or digital publications?


Would you strongly favor, somewhat favor, somewhat oppose or strongly oppose a proposal for federal or state governments to require unvaccinated citizens to use a smart phone app or wearable device that tracks unvaccinated people to ensure that they are quarantined or socially distancing from others?


Would you strongly favor, somewhat favor, somewhat oppose or strongly oppose a proposal to temporarily remove parents’ custody of their children if parents refuse to take the COVID-19 vaccine?


NOTE:Margin of Sampling Error, +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence

The questions, for those interested

Probably the same folks who are all in favor of censorship.

... Fauci will be gone by the end of the year.
Off to retirement... And trying to dodge the Investigations
surely coming for him Next Year.

Oh, the Places the INVESTIGATIONS Will Go!
Next Year.

#### Salty

Great point about the vaccine Devo. I specifically remember Dems refusing to acknowledge a vaccine that was in the process of being rushed to the public to help slow the spread and negative effects of covid. Then literally 2-3 months later (after Biden was sworn in) the same people were lining up by the masses to take that very same vaccine.. interesting how some people can be so easily manipulated.

Devo- who / which side do you think is suggesting a civil war?

I hear more of that coming from the right vs. the left; but to that, I don't know of anyone suggesting internment or the like. People just start posturing about the other side and " we got the guns" part of the equation. But I can't see anyone shooting people today. Not to say there aren't some coocoos out there but not wholesale. Originally Posted by eyecu2

Well, I frequent some major gun forums, one specifically for the AK and its variants, and the next CW is often a topic of discussion, especially since the re-popularization of Antifa, which, first became active in post WW1 Germany, and still exists actively in Europe today.

You really need to study the history of the Weimar Republic and the issues that plagued Germany and Europe to understand it completely, however the WIKI page on it gives some good insight.

Antifa, is a socialist radical group, which used violence very much like it was done in the USA in the last few years, crowds, attacking authority, rallies, where it differs, is, ours didn't use as many guns.

However, the lefts goal is the complete eradication of any and all things conservative, or non socialistic, and its based on classic guerilla tactics, small cells, lack of info about each other and higher ups, its funded clearly, as we saw by the use of emplaced weapons shields, etc.

However, its still small, relatively and mainly formed of dissatistifed yutes.

On the other side, what you have are, literally millions of gun owners, and, I think guys my age, were the first that saw the complete overturning of the "Fudd" gun owners, guys who owned rifles and shotguns, for hunting, and, never saw the need for ex military style weapons, other than for hunting.

Sort of like my dad, who didn't understand how devious the first serious attacks on gun owners as a legitimate issues, which, all arose out of huge interest in gun ownership, especially the "Evil black rifles" that were the subject of the first assault weapons ban, that ban, drove millions of new gun owners into the market, all anxious to buy an AR15 or an AK.

This all coincided with the rise of the internet, gun shows, with internet advertising, relatively good economic times, and cheap surplus ammunition coming from the former Soviet Union, with Millions upon millions of surplus rifles, all from the former Soviet states.

All of this has led to an AR being cheaper now, 400 bucks new, than what I paid for my first Colt AR in 1984ish, for 550 bucks. same with magazines and bulk ammo.

Machinegun parts kits, bulk rifles and ammo, have probably driven the numbers of firearms owned by double in the last 20 years, the SKS rifle, which was the most popular rifle for years in the USA has been replaced by the AR15.

Once expensive accessories, scopes, red dot sights, are all plentiful and dirt cheap, every gun owner I know has multiples, and, suppressors are also selling in huge numbers, now that the ATF has computerized the transfer system, those numbers of suppressors and short barreled rifles are going to rise exponentially, I know, because I am in that business, and I see who are buying guns and what for.

So, on one hand, you have a relatively small but passionate group on the left, on the right, you have an older but still growing mass, and I mean MASSIVE amount of mainly working, relatively financially well off, with lots of guns, and lots of patience.

Nobody on the right cries for a civil war, its more of a waiting till it happens, and finish it for once and all mentality.

We just don't have are the types of people the media is trying to play up at the fake insurrection as being, we are seeing now, in the next wave of prosecutions, people who were just there, and may have just went in and looked around or didn't even enter the capitol.

Its cleary an attempt again to demonize the right, instead of burning them down like Waco, they are using the corrupt justice system to create fear of action, which, is especially hypocritical, when you look at the complete inaction to stop the rioting.

What everybody saw, is something we on the right have known for years, the police are useless, and, when it comes time to fight or protect you, they won't be there, and, hence the HUGE increase again in people finding and buying guns, and why ammo is scarce and at an all time high in cost.

And one other Demographic which is key is where we are, and where most of the left are, which is, rural vs. city, just look at PA, you can isolate and surround most of the liberal counties with 80 percent trump voters, look at Pittsburgh for example.

The FBIs biggest fear was, that the rioters and looters in the inner city would try to leave downtown and go to the suburbs, where gun ownership is much higher, it would have been a slaughter.

Radical socialists on one side, and millions upon millions of just plain less political folk, whose only interest is taking care of themselves and their families.

A civil war would last less than a month, the cities would starve and the powerful would kill off the weak, just like we see happening everyday now, at least where DAs have stepped aside, or as happened in CHOP.

Did you see, four car jackers shot or killed in Philthadelphia in the last few weeks?

That is a direct result of the DA stepping aside, and people starting to protect themselves, and that's Philadelphia which has always had a far more restrictive gun culture, imagine what the "T" looks like in PA?

Bring it on, is what I say, better me than my younger relatives, the left want's it, but they are afraid to actually start it, we don't want to start it, but we don't mind ending it.

That's the difference I see.

Well, I frequent some major gun forums, one specifically for the AK and its variants, and the next CW is often a topic of discussion, especially since the re-popularization of Antifa, which, first became active in post WW1 Germany, and still exists actively in Europe today.

You really need to study the history of the Weimar Republic and the issues that plagued Germany and Europe to understand it completely, however the WIKI page on it gives some good insight.

Antifa, is a socialist radical group, which used violence very much like it was done in the USA in the last few years, crowds, attacking authority, rallies, where it differs, is, ours didn't use as many guns.

However, the lefts goal is the complete eradication of any and all things conservative, or non socialistic, and its based on classic guerilla tactics, small cells, lack of info about each other and higher ups, its funded clearly, as we saw by the use of emplaced weapons shields, etc.

However, its still small, relatively and mainly formed of dissatistifed yutes.

On the other side, what you have are, literally millions of gun owners, and, I think guys my age, were the first that saw the complete overturning of the "Fudd" gun owners, guys who owned rifles and shotguns, for hunting, and, never saw the need for ex military style weapons, other than for hunting.

Sort of like my dad, who didn't understand how devious the first serious attacks on gun owners as a legitimate issues, which, all arose out of huge interest in gun ownership, especially the "Evil black rifles" that were the subject of the first assault weapons ban, that ban, drove millions of new gun owners into the market, all anxious to buy an AR15 or an AK.

This all coincided with the rise of the internet, gun shows, with internet advertising, relatively good economic times, and cheap surplus ammunition coming from the former Soviet Union, with Millions upon millions of surplus rifles, all from the former Soviet states.

All of this has led to an AR being cheaper now, 400 bucks new, than what I paid for my first Colt AR in 1984ish, for 550 bucks. same with magazines and bulk ammo.

Machinegun parts kits, bulk rifles and ammo, have probably driven the numbers of firearms owned by double in the last 20 years, the SKS rifle, which was the most popular rifle for years in the USA has been replaced by the AR15.

Once expensive accessories, scopes, red dot sights, are all plentiful and dirt cheap, every gun owner I know has multiples, and, suppressors are also selling in huge numbers, now that the ATF has computerized the transfer system, those numbers of suppressors and short barreled rifles are going to rise exponentially, I know, because I am in that business, and I see who are buying guns and what for.

So, on one hand, you have a relatively small but passionate group on the left, on the right, you have an older but still growing mass, and I mean MASSIVE amount of mainly working, relatively financially well off, with lots of guns, and lots of patience.

Nobody on the right cries for a civil war, its more of a waiting till it happens, and finish it for once and all mentality.

We just don't have are the types of people the media is trying to play up at the fake insurrection as being, we are seeing now, in the next wave of prosecutions, people who were just there, and may have just went in and looked around or didn't even enter the capitol.

Its cleary an attempt again to demonize the right, instead of burning them down like Waco, they are using the corrupt justice system to create fear of action, which, is especially hypocritical, when you look at the complete inaction to stop the rioting.

What everybody saw, is something we on the right have known for years, the police are useless, and, when it comes time to fight or protect you, they won't be there, and, hence the HUGE increase again in people finding and buying guns, and why ammo is scarce and at an all time high in cost.

And one other Demographic which is key is where we are, and where most of the left are, which is, rural vs. city, just look at PA, you can isolate and surround most of the liberal counties with 80 percent trump voters, look at Pittsburgh for example.

The FBIs biggest fear was, that the rioters and looters in the inner city would try to leave downtown and go to the suburbs, where gun ownership is much higher, it would have been a slaughter.

Radical socialists on one side, and millions upon millions of just plain less political folk, whose only interest is taking care of themselves and their families.

A civil war would last less than a month, the cities would starve and the powerful would kill off the weak, just like we see happening everyday now, at least where DAs have stepped aside, or as happened in CHOP.

Did you see, four car jackers shot or killed in Philthadelphia in the last few weeks?

That is a direct result of the DA stepping aside, and people starting to protect themselves, and that's Philadelphia which has always had a far more restrictive gun culture, imagine what the "T" looks like in PA?

Bring it on, is what I say, better me than my younger relatives, the left want's it, but they are afraid to actually start it, we don't want to start it, but we don't mind ending it.

That's the difference I see. Originally Posted by Devo

This seems correct. The people with millions of guns and basements with more ordinance than national armories aren’t looking for a civil war. It’s the other side that is barely armed that want a conflict.

I guess you missed the 45% of Democrats support internment camps for people who won't get the vaccine in the OP Originally Posted by berryberry

When a pole comes from a company like Rasmussen, I rarely stop to give it much credence. One of their questions might as well have been, while visiting the pizza parlor of pedophilia and eating babies, which is your favorite flavor of ice cream chocolate or vanilla? It's these kind of nonsense questions that make me really wonder who the fuck thinks these stupid things up?