You're Not Rambo - CCL holders piss their pants

You're not Rambo. Watch as these CCL holders encounter a 'gunman' and proceed to shit the bed.

http://aattp.org/watch-proof-that-co...usional-video/

You're not Rambo. Watch as these CCL holders encounter a 'gunman' and proceed to shit the bed.

http://aattp.org/watch-proof-that-co...usional-video/ Originally Posted by WombRaider

A handgun is marginal in any dangerous situation. Add that to the fact that most people don't have a clue as to how difficult it is to actually hit something with one.

That is why I keep a Mossberg 12 gage pump by my bed. I hope to God that I never have to use it.

I relayed this story a couple of months ago on this Forum. I had stopped at the local Mexican Chicken place on the way home from work. As I was getting in my truck, 4 young Black Men were strolling down the sidewalk. One approached me, and asked for some money. I declined, and his reply was, "hey old man, why you gotta be that way.

This kid could not have been a day over 19, but I had a bad feeling, and had already reached in my truck's console and had my hand on the revolver I carry there. He said something else, and one one of his friends said, "hey, leave that old dude alone".

He did, and they continued down the street.

But, to this day, I still am very thankful that this did not escalate. I have never been one to back down from anything, but I also shudder at the thought of having to shoot someone.

A handgun is marginal in any dangerous situation. Add that to the fact that most people don't have a clue as to how difficult it is to actually hit something with one.

That is why I keep a Mossberg 12 gage pump by my bed. I hope to God that I never have to use it.

I relayed this story a couple of months ago on this Forum. I had stopped at the local Mexican Chicken place on the way home from work. As I was getting in my truck, 4 young Black Men were strolling down the sidewalk. One approached me, and asked for some money. I declined, and his reply was, "hey old man, why you gotta be that way.

This kid could not have been a day over 19, but I had a bad feeling, and had already reached in my truck's console and had my hand on the revolver I carry there. He said something else, and one one of his friends said, "hey, leave that old dude alone".

He did, and they continued down the street.

But, to this day, I still am very thankful that this did not escalate. I have never been one to back down from anything, but I also shudder at the thought of having to shoot someone. Originally Posted by Jackie S

And I respect you for realizing that it's not as easy as just shooting someone. Taking someone's life is no joke.

Taking someone's life is no joke. Originally Posted by WombRaider

"Defensive" shooting is not "taking someone's life" ... it is stopping the threat.

As for the "video proof" that licensed carriers "shit their pants" ...

.... review the video again to see the female "target practicing" ... her eyes.

Then look at all of them .... "target practicing" ... shooting the paper.

.... a Mossberg 12 gage pump .... Originally Posted by Jackie S

.. with field loads a good selection for around the house...

... your stuff doesn't rattle around the neighbor's house before coming to rest.

"Defensive" shooting is not "taking someone's life" ... it is stopping the threat.

As for the "video proof" that licensed carriers "shit their pants" ...

.... review the video again to see the female "target practicing" ... her eyes.

Then look at all of them .... "target practicing" ... shooting the paper. Originally Posted by LexusLover

Is that your new "tactic" LLIdiot? Use quotation marks on everything instead of ever actually saying something useful?

Pretty smart! It effectively reduces the chance of you saying something stupid to whatever percentage of your post isn't directly quoted from someone else.

As some one with a cc permit, please don't allow yourself to be suckered by this obvious to discredit holders of the permit. I pray God that I never have to shoot someone but I would have on several occasions if the other perpetrator had not stopped his actions...the first time was when some younger dude kicked in the door of my apartment.

We are not a group of college students, some of us have a little more life experience from the military etc.
I can assure you that I will not shit my pants and my friends and I have more experience than a lecture with our firearms Again I pray to God that I never have to shoot anyone but conversely practice in case I do.

As some one with a cc permit, please don't allow yourself to be suckered by this obvious to discredit holders of the permit. I pray God that I never have to shoot someone but I would have on several occasions if the other perpetrator had not stopped his actions...the first time was when some younger dude kicked in the door of my apartment.

We are not a group of college students, some of us have a little more life experience from the military etc.
I can assure you that I will not shit my pants and my friends and I have more experience than a lecture with our firearms Again I pray to God that I never have to shoot anyone but conversely practice in case I do. Originally Posted by gladius82

You missed the point. The video is only advocating for much (much!) stricter training for CCL holders.
As it stands, I can walk into a store, buy a gun, spend an hour shooting it and walk out being one of the "holders of the permit". Just because you have the proper training doesn't mean that everybody who is currently able to get a permit has it as well.

I agree, much more training is needed across the board......But the Assertion that one hour of training is all you need for a CCW is ridiculous...In my state it is a two day class for new holders and a one day class to renew. Anything less and the laws should be changed immediately.

"Defensive" shooting is not "taking someone's life" ... it is stopping the threat.

As for the "video proof" that licensed carriers "shit their pants" ...

.... review the video again to see the female "target practicing" ... her eyes.

Then look at all of them .... "target practicing" ... shooting the paper. Originally Posted by LexusLover

Tell that to the dead person's family, you ignominious cunt. When you shoot someone, regardless of why you're doing it, you are most definitely taking someone's life. You don't get to parse your way out of this one.

.. with field loads a good selection for around the house...

... your stuff doesn't rattle around the neighbor's house before coming to rest. Originally Posted by LexusLover

Only loads you're taking are white and ropey...

I agree, much more training is needed across the board......But the Assertion that one hour of training is all you need for a CCW is ridiculous...In my state it is a two day class for new holders and a one day class to renew. Anything less and the laws should be changed immediately. Originally Posted by gladius82

Yet it seems like more people are pushing for "Constitutional Carry". Texas lowered its requirements for a CCL a year or two ago. Seems like we're moving in the other direction.

Interesting ......but it wasn't a very scientific study nor was it proof of anything.


Btw ..I use a sawed off double barreled 12 gauge Coach Gun made by Kalashnikov. Very intimidating.

And I respect you for realizing that it's not as easy as just shooting someone. Taking someone's life is no joke. Originally Posted by WombRaider

Many of the soldiers in WW2 could not fired their weapons.. There's something instinctive in most people that doesn't allow you to kill a fellow human. More modern training technics can over come that.

Just think for a minute the kind of steal you must have to saw off someone's head.. You'd have to be an animal to do something like that.

I agree, much more training is needed across the board......But the Assertion that one hour of training is all you need for a CCW is ridiculous...In my state it is a two day class for new holders and a one day class to renew. Anything less and the laws should be changed immediately. Originally Posted by gladius82

Yet it seems like more people are pushing for "Constitutional Carry". Texas lowered its requirements for a CCL a year or two ago. Seems like we're moving in the other direction. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

What he said. Also, considering the upcoming Kansas and Ohio bills, I'd say we're moving fast.