Poll - If you have not received the exact address yet, do you actually have a legit/booked appointment? ...or not?
I'm not lincking up all the history of this nonsense....but here are some quotes from yesterday's NotYourOrdinary NCNS:
If you don't have an address then you didn't have an appointment
Originally Posted by Dorthy_Monroe
No address, no appointment is a total crock of shit. I set a time and a date, I havean appointment, a commitment has been made. I am agreeing to show up with required donation and she is agreeing to be ready able and willing. I stop shopping, stop looking at different women, I have made my choice. It is her obligation to respond and be there, otherwise it is a NCNS. So, it is okay for me to set an appointment with you and just not call day of and not respond if you text me? I did not have address. That is bullshit too and He is doing a NCNS.
Originally Posted by Boudin3112
I call no address no appointment bullshit also. If a date and time is established by both parties, then it's an appointment. Location can be confirmed closer to time or however works best for parties. Try the no address rule in RW and you'll get your ass chewed deluxe and a little throat punch would be nothing to even break sweat on in comparison.
Originally Posted by romab
The last two post are "bullshit" or is that "total crock of shit"
Precedence has been set that: date, time, location, & possibly length of said fuckery must be established for an official appointmentu font:
Originally Posted by Dorian Gray
So what is it?
I call bullshit. If we've agreed to an appointment, we have an appointment....two way street.
It don't make a fuck difference if the exact address isn't agreed to yet.
Edit: as hate-able as Dorfy is,....I still thincks she's full of shit on this one.
I concur wholeheartedly.. as I have been burned by the same thing and it makes ZERO sense to me.
I actually agree with ya Globe, but I wouldn't leave my house or work and go anywhere until I have the address.
No. IMHO if you or I do not have the exact address, or even the room number for that matter, how can you have an appointment?
I imagine DM can agree to this scenario. Winky wisperer and I agree to a time and date for an outcall. I give her the general location the day before. District, neighborhood or cross streets (private incalls, hotels, or apartment complexes could all be surrounding) is enough information to plan accordingly.
An hour before the scheduled time is when I should give her the address or ask for confirmation. Text should be fine, but I have been in a situation where someone doesn't get the text well after it was sent. Then a call is in order. Given that she is in the vicinity given to her the day before, fifteen minutes until T-time is enough to make it after we hang up.
So she pulls up to my hotel parking lot and the second part of the two-part system comes in two minutes before the first FORE! I text (or call her which I prefer) with the room number. That's when you have an appointment. Think two minute warning.
Let's just say I am waiting in the parking lot for DM to show up. And she does. But I don't like what I see. She is there. I am there but she doesn't know what I look like. This supposes a clear vision of the DT specialist. If she looks too ugly, too fat, too much like a prostitute (or worse: Latina), then I don't send the room number. No ROOM number! NO appointment.
I kid because I love. Maybe I'm the one who gets the address and she doesn't like what she sees. If I get no room number, then I had no appointment. I can bitch all I want but what is that gonna get me? Such is the paranoia.
OP....Dude what the fuck is up with the big font. Chill out with that shit I'm sure everyone has pretty good vision.
As to your point yes if you set a specific date and time then you have a specific appointment. Let's flip the scenario and say a provider agrees to a specific date and time for a 3 hour Outcall then you bet your ass she expects she has an appointment with you. She can get the exact address and room number just before or while en-route I'm sure that's standard protocol.
Don't schedule a date and time with me, have me cancel board meetings to fit you in my schedule and then tell me at the last minute there really was no date because of no address.
That's a big no no...you're better off trying to sell me some other canned lie. If not you're fired. lol
Edit: If there is no day of confirmation that you're still meeting then you're a dam fool for leaving your house to a general direction without a confirmation. However, it doesn't mean you don't or didn't have an appointment. Just means you got stood up for whatever reason.
OP....Dude what the fuck is up with the big font. Chill out with that shit I'm sure everyone has pretty good vision.
Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel
Viagra, Gas Station dick pills or Menstration...... Take your pick.
OP....Dude what the fuck is up with the big font. Chill out with that shit I'm sure everyone has pretty good vision.
As to your point yes if you set a specific date and time then you have a specific appointment. Let's flip the scenario and say a provider agrees to a specific date and time for a 3 hour Outcall then you bet your ass she expects she has an appointment with you. She can get the exact address and room number just before or while en-route I'm sure that's standard protocol.
Don't schedule a date and time with me, have me cancel board meetings to fit you in my schedule and then tell me at the last minute there really was no date because of no address.
That's a big no no...you're better off trying to sell me some other canned lie. If not you're fired. lol
Edit: If there is no day of confirmation that you're still meeting then you're a dam fool for leaving your house to a general direction without a confirmation. However, it doesn't mean you don't or didn't have an appointment. Just means you got stood up for whatever reason.
Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel
Does big font mean internet screaming? Lol.
It doesn't matter what the outcome of this poll is. Nothing will change.
There have also been situations where the provider will give the hobbyist a general area to go to without the exact address. I feel like that's a NCNS. If the provider says "Go to the corner of Westheimer and Sage. Call or text me when you get there and I'll give you further instructions"
I've been the hobbyist who has gone to a specific place to await further instructions and get nothing. If I've set the appointment, and confirmed with the provider an hour or two before the session that we're still on, I have an appointment. Regardless if I have the exact address the appointment has been made and confirmed.
Let's flip it! Let a hobbyist make an appointment and not show up. Even without out the exact address, I'm fairly certain the provider would be a tad bit pissed that you didn't show up.
I RARELY get an EXACT room number before leaving for an incall. They generally will tell me the hotel, but not the room number until I call them as I'm pulling in to the parking lot.
It's pretty much standard procedure, from what I've seen, to not give the exact room number until arrival there.
If there is an agreed date and time, it's an appointment. We are all adults and should be responsible enough to honor our time committments. Most of us have significant responsibilites and do not like to have our time wasted.
For me, I normally say something like, "would you like me to set XYZ time aside for you?"
And when you reply "Yes" ... we have an appointment.
If there is an agreed date and time, it's an appointment. We are all adults and should be responsible enough to honor our time committments. Most of us have significant responsibilites and do not like to have our time wasted.
Originally Posted by GT1369
+1.
Excuses beyond that by either party for a NCNS are just excuses.
come the fuck on. use some common sense. at least for me it is, not sure how the rest of yall handle it.
if you even got to the point of eventually requiring an address pretty sure that's because something was agreed upon. uh, duh. otherwise why would that even be in the to-do-list? requiring the address at some point is because there was an agreement right? if there was no agreement then wtf would anyone even have use of an address?
john: hey, you available?
hooker: of course baby. when did you have in mind?
john: (insert any day or time frame here as in this weekend, tomorrow, right now, etc.)
hooker: sounds great! call/text me when you get to (insert general area or hotel here)
just a simple generalization example. granted it might not be verbatim but pretty sure that's an agreement. come to think of it, back when first started here could have NCNS'd one hooker since was given an address. just chalked it up to being new and other hooker logic.
about the only time can see the address applying is to an outcall. don't see the girls actually leaving whereever they are until they have an actual address. they sure don't get the address until there has been an agreement either way. maybe some do head to general areas but never done that myself. another wrinkle, what if they've already been to the address? how does that factor into the no address alternate reality? does the address factor in differently to someone who has seen someone before? never known many to be into floating rules effected by dependenices.
calling bupkis
I RARELY get an EXACT room number before leaving for an incall. They generally will tell me the hotel, but not the room number until I call them as I'm pulling in to the parking lot.
It's pretty much standard procedure, from what I've seen, to not give the exact room number until arrival there.
Originally Posted by albundy
They gave you the name of the Motel and that is attached to a physical address.You brought up a good point that the room number is not part of any confirmation.Experienced providers don't give out the room numbers ahead of time for safety reasons.
I, for the most part, see those I am familiar with, in call, Agency or Indy. The only others are usually the traveling Ladies. They are only there to make money, so they never NCNS. I avoid out calls and Notels, if possible.
So, I already know the local's address and have never been NCNS by a traveling Lady.
It's a non-issue for me.