IOP???? Really?

Might just be in a grumpy mood today; but I just checked reviews for a provider I was interested in and they pretty much listed all the same activities. LFK, CBJ and CFS. I know everybody says just move on and find one that provides what you are looking for, which I did. But damn, this just struck me as where's the IOP in these activities?

CBJ = 0 IOP in the first place.

There are different definitions for GFE and IOP depending on who you ask. IMO, neither LFK only, and CBJ are even remotely related to GFE or IOP. CFS can be, but sometimes is not nor should it be deemed GFE when there is no IOP, or God forbid, real passion. Especially since overall, the donation rates keep going up, however, the TCB/BCD skill levels are going down.


Comparatively speaking, it is better and a lot cheaper to whack off to free porn on the internet, than to see a provider BCD who clearly does not enjoy what she does. Guys know this because usually during CFS, she lays there like bump on a log, very little or no sounds either, basically giving you just a hole to stick your dick in and you do all the movements to get yourself off. You may even want to check if she is still breathing since her eyes are and have been closed nor has she even moved the entire time since you began CFS. But then, you soon realize that she is alive and well when your time is up as she ushers you to the door and collects your money!

Comparatively speaking, it is better and a lot cheaper to whack off to free porn on the internet, than to see a provider BCD who clearly does not enjoy what she does and lays there like bump on a log, no sounds either, basically giving you just a hole to stick your dick in and you do all the movements to get yourself off. You may even want to check if she is still breathing since her eyes are and have been closed and she has not moved since you began CFS. But then, you soon realize that she is alive and well when your time is up as she ushers you to the door and collects your money! Originally Posted by davidfree986

Well stated!

There are different definitions for GFE and IOP depending on who you ask. IMO, neither LFK only, and CBJ are even remotely related to GFE or IOP. Originally Posted by davidfree986

I'm surprised how many describe themselves as "freaky" and "nasty", yet still stop at no or LK, and CBJ.. I would rather fuck a store mannequin, except the hard styrofoam would rub me a bit raw.

One would think that if you're going to perform a CBJ, your IOP would need to be off the charts.

Also, OP, so unless they DFK, BBBJ, and BBFS there's no IOP for you? Fair enough if so as to each their own; but this comes off as if you're just being a whiny client because someone isn't offering what you want. "HotGirl wants to use a condom and won't kiss me like she means it... waaaaaaaaaaaaah"

<---- does not offer bbfs. take me off the IOP scale if you must.

Otherwise, my reviews speak pretty highly of me.

But if bbfs is what it takes, I guess I've been doing the wrong job for the last ten years. Too bad.

So is the OP stating that BBFS is the only way that a provider can give IOP? I must have misread the post then. I do agree with him on the LFK and CBJ as you just cannot call it a GFE/IOP session providing only those type activities. But, here is a question for the OP then: what would you consider to be more IOP: a provider who gives you CFS and is an active participant in the session (body movements, moaning, fucks you back with same passion you are fucking her with her eyes are engaging you and she is there mentally) or would you want BBFS with a provider who is more or less a corpse?

Keep in mind, there are a lot of providers who do CFS that are basically dead fucks as well, I have read the reviews and experienced many in person. Do the providers know how to provide IOP in a session? Of course they do. The real question is, will they do it? To make a comparison to a stripper who just started out, they sometimes give this lame bullshit about how they do not know how to do it, but truth be told, all of them can give a great lap dance. Females are given the inherent ability to make a man feel glad he is a man and in the case of this hobby, they are also getting paid to do it as well, so it stands to reason that it should be a given, right? WRONG....not with Eccie and P411 providers, which is one of the major reasons guys turn to and see for sessions then reviewing more and more BP providers. It is not so much that providers do not know how, even tho all guys like different things, it is a matter of will they APPLY those innate abilities.

<---- does not offer bbfs. take me off the IOP scale if you must.

Otherwise, my reviews speak pretty highly of me.

But if bbfs is what it takes, I guess I've been doing the wrong job for the last ten years. Too bad. Originally Posted by tntangie

BBFS does not = IOP it = STDs unwanted pregnancies, fun explanations to your SO. That fun kind of stuff that im jsut like NO to. Even though i cant CFS and jsut get bbbjs dont mean im goin to try bbfs to see if my dick works thank you. The last provider i saw we did just oral and other things to each other and it was an overnight and the iop was very good and i had a blast, i hope she had some fun.

<---- does not offer bbfs. take me off the IOP scale if you must.

Otherwise, my reviews speak pretty highly of me. Originally Posted by tntangie

Exactly what she said.

OP, maybe you're looking at the wrong ladies.

Now, I am in agreement with the CBJ. GAG ME. in a bad way. ugh. no, no no no no.

I can't get into it at all. I just can't do it.

The OP (me) does not, no, no want bbfs. I just included all the activities stated in the reviews and put altogether seemed very weak. Call me whiney if you want. But you can't call me a whiney client, becuase I'm not going to be a client of a provider that offers what I consider a very limited menu. Anyways, sure not advocating bbfs, no way!

Hmmm. Seems to me that if you research a lady by looking at the stated activities on a majority of her reviews, you could get a good feel of the type of service she provides. If you see LFK and CBJ over and over, that wouldn't be the type of lady your interested in anyway, regardless of how hot she is. So why would you go see her? Hotness does not equal IOP lol

Maybe I'm wrong

I'm surprised how many describe themselves as "freaky" and "nasty", yet still stop at no or LK, and CBJ.. I would rather fuck a store mannequin, except the hard styrofoam would rub me a bit raw. Originally Posted by Chung Tran

Just use more lube!

Just use more lube! Originally Posted by Bad_Mojo

thanks for the tip, but I tried that...

I was slipping and sliding all over the place.. it was embarrassing, because everyone in J.C. Penney was watching..