Clinton was right: Trump HAS lifted up the deplorable

The hateful bickering on this board is at an all time high. Maybe the hateful ARE being lifted up by Drumpf.

Are you feeling lifted up?

HRC was wrong to lump half of Drumpf supporters into one basket. And she quickly apologized.

I think she understated the size of the basket.


http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/10/opinio...ley/index.html

Clinton was right: Trump HAS lifted up the deplorable

(CNN)It is deplorable to undermine the credibility of a federal judge based on his Mexican heritage.

It is deplorable to demean a Gold Star family and propose to ban all Muslims from entering the United States.

It is deplorable for a candidate for president of a major party to kick off his campaign by labeling most Mexicans as rapists and murderers.
It is deplorable when the Justice Department feels it has to sue you a second time for racial discrimination because you didn't get the hint the first time.

It is deplorable to play footsie with David Duke, to repeatedly retweet white nationalists and false stats about black men and crime, to praise the enthusiasm of supporters who beat a homeless Hispanic man in Boston and punch a black man at rally, to say black people have a lazy trait and have them ushered off the casino floor when you show up.

It is deplorable to rise to national political prominence on the bigotry that is "birtherism," even more deplorable to have neither the character nor the courage either publicly to renounce or repeat that assertion while touting your supposed toughness as a primary reason to vote for you.

It is deplorable that the list of deplorable things done and said by the Republican nominee for president is so long it's hard and exhausting to try to remember them all.

It is deplorable that a sizable percentage of his supporters love him because of those awful things -- deplorable that they now feel it is OK to express those views in public. That is not excusable -- no matter how much economic pain they've contended with these past few decades.

But what's most deplorable is the knee-jerk pushback against anyone who dares point out this reality, as though exposing the deplorable is worse than the deplorable things themselves. Maybe the best way to avoid being labeled deplorable is to stop doing and saying and standing for deplorable things?

The public has struggled as it has grappled with Donald Trump's new brand of bigotry, the promotion of a kind of hate that until now had existed at the far margins of politics and was censured by all decent people when it crept into the public discourse.

Against this backdrop, now there is a flare-up because Hillary Clinton on Friday made the mistake of reminding people about Trump's track record and why he was able to garner more support than 16 more qualified Republican candidates.

(Never mind that earlier the same day, the "alt-right" that Trump has helped usher into the mainstream was busy detailing reasons why some races are superior to others and that Jews can't be trusted.)

To get a sense of the overwrought outrage over Clinton's comments, you need to read them in full context:

"You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right? The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic -- you name it," Clinton told a crowd at a fund-raiser Friday night.

Surely no right-thinking American disagrees that racism, sexism, homophobia, xenophobia and Islamophobia are, indeed, deplorable.

"(Trump) has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people -- now have 11 million. He tweets and retweets their offensive, hateful, mean-spirited rhetoric. Now, some of those folks -- they are irredeemable, but thankfully they are not America," Clinton said.

Trump has lifted them up. He has given them voice. There's a reason Duke and white nationalists are so giddy about the prospect of a "President Trump." No one who has followed this campaign in any serious way can dispute that reality.

The only debate seems to be what percentage of Trump's followers are animated by his bigotry. Fifty percent like Clinton said Friday? (She has since expressed regret for saying "half.") Ten percent? Twenty? The roughly 40% of Republicans who chose Trump against 16 other candidates while the primaries were still competitive?

Or maybe the nearly three-quarters of Republicans who either don't believe or doubt President Barack Obama was actually born in America, a figure that is so high in large part because of the efforts of Trump that go back to at least 2011?
It is important for Clinton -- and others -- to speak clearly about the danger posed by the ugliness unleashed by Trump, because no matter what happens in November, we all will have to deal with the fallout. Not to do so would be to become party to the mainstreaming of bigotry.

That's where I'll caution Clinton and her supporters. The most foulmouthed, foul-thinking Trump supporters are America but are not irredeemable. A complex set of factors that can't be fully captured by a poll leads to people's embrace of bigotry and homophobia and sexism.

And the truth is there are many people who make up Clinton's base -- and other portions of the American populace -- who could easily be taken in by that kind of rhetoric, given the right circumstances. None of us is immune to our basest fears and instincts.

The hateful bickering on this board is at an all time high. Maybe the hateful ARE being lifted up by Drumpf.

Are you feeling lifted up?

HRC was wrong to lump half of Drumpf supporters into one basket. And she quickly apologized.

I think she understated the size of the basket.


http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/10/opinio...ley/index.html

Clinton was right: Trump HAS lifted up the deplorable

(CNN)It is deplorable to undermine the credibility of a federal judge based on his Mexican heritage.

It is deplorable to demean a Gold Star family and propose to ban all Muslims from entering the United States.

It is deplorable for a candidate for president of a major party to kick off his campaign by labeling most Mexicans as rapists and murderers.
It is deplorable when the Justice Department feels it has to sue you a second time for racial discrimination because you didn't get the hint the first time.

It is deplorable to play footsie with David Duke, to repeatedly retweet white nationalists and false stats about black men and crime, to praise the enthusiasm of supporters who beat a homeless Hispanic man in Boston and punch a black man at rally, to say black people have a lazy trait and have them ushered off the casino floor when you show up.

It is deplorable to rise to national political prominence on the bigotry that is "birtherism," even more deplorable to have neither the character nor the courage either publicly to renounce or repeat that assertion while touting your supposed toughness as a primary reason to vote for you.

It is deplorable that the list of deplorable things done and said by the Republican nominee for president is so long it's hard and exhausting to try to remember them all.

It is deplorable that a sizable percentage of his supporters love him because of those awful things -- deplorable that they now feel it is OK to express those views in public. That is not excusable -- no matter how much economic pain they've contended with these past few decades.

But what's most deplorable is the knee-jerk pushback against anyone who dares point out this reality, as though exposing the deplorable is worse than the deplorable things themselves. Maybe the best way to avoid being labeled deplorable is to stop doing and saying and standing for deplorable things?

The public has struggled as it has grappled with Donald Trump's new brand of bigotry, the promotion of a kind of hate that until now had existed at the far margins of politics and was censured by all decent people when it crept into the public discourse.

Against this backdrop, now there is a flare-up because Hillary Clinton on Friday made the mistake of reminding people about Trump's track record and why he was able to garner more support than 16 more qualified Republican candidates.

(Never mind that earlier the same day, the "alt-right" that Trump has helped usher into the mainstream was busy detailing reasons why some races are superior to others and that Jews can't be trusted.)

To get a sense of the overwrought outrage over Clinton's comments, you need to read them in full context:

"You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right? The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic -- you name it," Clinton told a crowd at a fund-raiser Friday night.

Surely no right-thinking American disagrees that racism, sexism, homophobia, xenophobia and Islamophobia are, indeed, deplorable.

"(Trump) has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people -- now have 11 million. He tweets and retweets their offensive, hateful, mean-spirited rhetoric. Now, some of those folks -- they are irredeemable, but thankfully they are not America," Clinton said.

Trump has lifted them up. He has given them voice. There's a reason Duke and white nationalists are so giddy about the prospect of a "President Trump." No one who has followed this campaign in any serious way can dispute that reality.

The only debate seems to be what percentage of Trump's followers are animated by his bigotry. Fifty percent like Clinton said Friday? (She has since expressed regret for saying "half.") Ten percent? Twenty? The roughly 40% of Republicans who chose Trump against 16 other candidates while the primaries were still competitive?

Or maybe the nearly three-quarters of Republicans who either don't believe or doubt President Barack Obama was actually born in America, a figure that is so high in large part because of the efforts of Trump that go back to at least 2011?
It is important for Clinton -- and others -- to speak clearly about the danger posed by the ugliness unleashed by Trump, because no matter what happens in November, we all will have to deal with the fallout. Not to do so would be to become party to the mainstreaming of bigotry.

That's where I'll caution Clinton and her supporters. The most foulmouthed, foul-thinking Trump supporters are America but are not irredeemable. A complex set of factors that can't be fully captured by a poll leads to people's embrace of bigotry and homophobia and sexism.

And the truth is there are many people who make up Clinton's base -- and other portions of the American populace -- who could easily be taken in by that kind of rhetoric, given the right circumstances. None of us is immune to our basest fears and instincts. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

You and hildebeest can go diddle yourselves into oblivion, you Mussulman-luvin, Hitler worshipping, lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM.

Case In point. IBSyndrome can't control his sphincter. For a change.

HillaryNoMore is confused ... again!

She actually meant that all Trump supporters are .... ADORABLE!!!! Damn speech writers!

Shrillary has a way of bringing out the worst in everyone. Especially dimocRATS like the OP.

I'm euphoric... Shit Eater, I hope she DIES...




Then we can...




Because...

Judge Jeanine to hildebeest: You’re a Pathological Liar, Dishonest and Condescending

Saturday on her Fox News Channel show “Justice,” host Judge Jeanine Pirro lit into Democratic presidential nominee hildebeest for calling Republican nominee Donald Trump supporters “deplorable,” which she later apologized for.

“Hillary, you bow to and take money from countries who throw gays off buildings. You take money for your so-called charity from countries that don’t allow women to drive, a so-called feminist who supports countries that force women to cover every part of their bodies but their eyeballs, and you want to call us Islamophobes?” Pirro said.

Pirro then followed hildebeest’s lead and did some name calling of her own, using insults like “liar,” “dishonest” and “condescending.”

“Hildebeest, since you started the name calling, hildebeest, you are a liar, and a pathological one at that. You’re a cheat. You’re dishonest. You are condescending. You are arrogant, contemptuous, and if you think that your half-assed apology will wipe the slate clean, you are wrong. It takes you 17 hours to figure out that you had to apologize? The ordinary people, hildebeest, the people who have to follow the law, who have no choice but to pay their taxes, who have to work two and three jobs, who fight for all of us, many of whom come back with fewer limbs, don’t want a president who hates us. we don’t want a president who thinks that we’re deplorable.”

(Breitbart)

I really think she was talking about Asswipe.

I really think she was talking about Asswipe. Originally Posted by bambino

She's got more class than to acknowledge his existence.

Although I am sure he would love it if she did.

OK, that makes sense.

No response to the article. Just idiots flinging feces at me.

The only HRC related post this far was the Village Idiot hoping she dies.

Well played SLOBBRIN.

She threw assup under the bus by backing away despite his spirited defense of her ill chosen words.

Wha the fuck you talkin bout Willis?

It was a dumb statement, however there are a basket full of them on this forum...

I gotcha basket of deplorables...Right here!

Wha the fuck you talkin bout Willis? Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Really and you call people bullies? You simple minded little fuck. You are worse than some of these brain dead hooktards around here.