Face mask usage correlates with higher death rates

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"Moreover," the study concludes, "the moderate positive correlation between mask usage and deaths in Western Europe also suggests that the universal use of masks may have had harmful unintended consequences."

Unless you accept the proposition that the whole goal by the elites worldwide is actually depopulation, especially of the elderly since the younger generations are not reproducing enough to cover the cost of keeping us old farts alive.
... No bleedin' wonder President Trump surely believed that
masks - just like the vax - should be optional.

### Salty
Since just about everybody in Washington this side of “Joey Bribes” has tested positive for Covid, and everybody this side of Washington wears a mask religiously, doesn’t that give pretty good evidence that the mask are useless against a virus.
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I bet Tiny is still tooling around in his N95!
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  • WTF
  • 05-05-2022, 08:13 AM
"Moreover," the study concludes, "the moderate positive correlation between mask usage and deaths in Western Europe also suggests that the universal use of masks may have had harmful unintended consequences."

Unless you accept the proposition that the whole goal by the elites worldwide is actually depopulation, especially of the elderly since the younger generations are not reproducing enough to cover the cost of keeping us old farts alive. Originally Posted by JohnnyGleet
That was the one economic positive. Trump may have extended SS and Medicare by killing off all those seniors!
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Horseshit source.

And hope you keep yours on JL.
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  • 05-05-2022, 08:19 AM
I bet Tiny is still tooling around in his N95! Originally Posted by bambino
You do know the difference between wearing these shit masks and N95
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You do know the difference between wearing these shit masks and N95 Originally Posted by WTF
But unless you are discarding that N95 mask after every use (potential exposure) they are no more effective than a regular surgical mask.

There aren't enough masks in existence to prevent the spread of a virus. It's simply ridiculous. It's medical theater. It's designed to make low info 'tards feel better.
  • Tiny
  • 05-05-2022, 08:40 AM
I bet Tiny is still tooling around in his N95! Originally Posted by bambino
Silly. You're wrong. I haven't been wearing uncomfortable N95 masks since the start of the pandemic. I switched to KN95 masks long ago. I bought time with KN95 masks until the vaccines and boosters became available and the less harmful Omicron variant became dominant. I know a couple of people who died from COVID, some who were hospitalized, and more still who are still suffering long term effects, like gastrointestinal illness and brain fog. To my knowledge I've never had the disease.
  • Tiny
  • 05-05-2022, 09:09 AM
Face mask usage correlates with higher death rates. LOL... But the experts!!!lol Originally Posted by texassapper
First, this study just included data from a 6 month period during the winter of 2020/2021. Second, his correlation between mask usage and COVID cases probably should be tossed out the window because of widely varying levels of testing and reporting between countries. So that leaves you with the death rates.

Norway and Denmark skewed his results. The have the lowest death rates save Belarus, and who's going to trust Belarus' numbers anyway. And Norway and Denmark also had the lowest level of average mask usage. People back then were attributing Norway and Denmark's "success" to their lockdowns, and also ready availability of tests that enabled people to know when they were infectious so they could stay home. In other words, while Beny Spira, the author (associate professor at University of Sao Paulo) thinks he's looking at a correlation between mask usage and COVID mortality, maybe he's actually looking at a correlation between mask usage and lockdowns and testing.

Spira says that mask compliance was higher in Eastern Europe, as were death rates in Eastern Europe. Maybe you could attribute part of that to lower quality health care in the east. Also, I remember that some countries in eastern Europe, like the Czech Republic and Slovakia, were the first to mask up and showed low incidence of deaths initially, particularly compared to Italy and Spain. Maybe going into the six month period that this study covered, eastern Europe had less immunity from infection as a result of masking up early on.

That said, yes, maybe I should be eating a tiny bit of crow. I still maintain that if people had been wearing good quality masks (preferably KN95 or N95), including when around family members, during the waves and until vaccinated, lives would have been saved and the economy and our national debt wouldn't have suffered as much.

About your point in another post, I don't believe it makes sense to throw away N95 masks after a single wearing. Back when there was a shortage, I was baking mine to sterilize them, and never suffered any ill effects. Actually accept for one nasal infection, probably bacterial from picking my nose too much, I haven't had a single cold since COVID started, maybe because of the masks and vaccines, which might provide some immunity against other coronaviruses besides COVID-19. I used to have 2 or 3 colds a year.

This is the actual paper:

https://www.cureus.com/articles/9382...f%20COVID%2D19.
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Silly. You're wrong. I haven't been wearing uncomfortable N95 masks since the start of the pandemic. I switched to KN95 masks long ago. I bought time with KN95 masks until the vaccines and boosters became available and the less harmful Omicron variant became dominant. I know a couple of people who died from COVID, some who were hospitalized, and more still who are still suffering long term effects, like gastrointestinal illness and brain fog. To my knowledge I've never had the disease. Originally Posted by Tiny
What did you do with your “stash” of N95s?
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You do know the difference between wearing these shit masks and N95 Originally Posted by WTF
Better than you do. And Tiny.