For fiscal years 1999, 2005 and 2007, the House and the Senate failed to reconcile their different bills and pass a compromise measure. In these latter three cases, the Republicans were in the majority in both chambers of Congress.
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- CJ7
- 10-06-2013, 11:29 PM
- Yssup Rider
- 10-07-2013, 12:14 AM
spendomaniacs!
- JD Barleycorn
- 10-07-2013, 02:44 AM
Stupid CJ, Hulk Smash!
There have been 17 shutdowns since Ford and you name but three. Tell us about the other 14.
There have been 17 shutdowns since Ford and you name but three. Tell us about the other 14.
- CJ7
- 10-07-2013, 09:50 AM
- Guest032516
- 10-07-2013, 01:31 PM
- CJ7
- 10-07-2013, 03:55 PM
he seemed to think it was, until half the board laughed him back under his rock
- Texas Contrarian
- 10-07-2013, 04:31 PM
it was too deep for Mr Top 2% Originally Posted by CJ7
JDB is in the top 2% of something? It can't be good whatever it is. Originally Posted by ExNYerActually, if it were remotely true, it would be good news indeed for Professor Barleycorn to be in the top 2% of the "something" alluded to here.
*WARNING*
Before taking a look at the link showing what that "something" is, please put down any beverages you may have in your hand!
http://www.eccie.net/showpost.php?p=...6&postcount=39
And please note, CJ7, that a slight correction is in order here. Barleycorn claimed not just to be in the top 2% of the IQ distribution, but in the top 0.2 percent!
That post is from a thread I started about four months ago amid widespread annoyance at three prolific forum hogs (Barleycorn, Whirlaway and COG). The latter, thankfully, seems to have cooled it a bit and isn't starting many threads these days. The other two...well, not so much.
I ridiculed those three obnoxious buffoons by mockingly referring to them as Triple Nine Society members, so Barleycorn apparently felt compelled to comment.
Regarding the question of whether the other two are likely to meet the qualification standards of the Triple Nine Society, you can read their posts and judge for yourself.
- CJ7
- 10-07-2013, 04:51 PM
I stand corrected.
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- JD Barleycorn
- 10-08-2013, 01:50 AM
You can argue with Mensa or the SAT people. I'm just reporting the news but what does this have to do with the OP?
Most shutdowns happened under a GOP president and democratic congress but that would be against the OP. The presidents and congress always negoiated unlike Obama and Reid. These two facts run counter to what CJ is trying to imply.
Most shutdowns happened under a GOP president and democratic congress but that would be against the OP. The presidents and congress always negoiated unlike Obama and Reid. These two facts run counter to what CJ is trying to imply.
- CJ7
- 10-08-2013, 02:45 AM
You can argue with Mensa or the SAT people. I'm just reporting the news but what does this have to do with the OP?
Most shutdowns happened under a GOP president and democratic congress but that would be against the OP. The presidents and congress always negoiated unlike Obama and Reid. These two facts run counter to what CJ is trying to imply. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
right over your pointed head AGAIN
read the title goober, what does it say?
the point IS a republican majority congress didn't pass a budget in those three years ... durrrrrr ... never reached an agreement among themselves .. hahahahahahahaha
not too bright are you Einstein?
- CJ7
- 10-10-2013, 12:23 AM
ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
right over your pointed head AGAIN
read the title goober, what does it say?
the point IS a republican majority congress didn't pass a budget in those three years ... durrrrrr ... never reached an agreement among themselves .. hahahahahahahaha
not too bright are you Einstein? Originally Posted by CJ7
- i'va biggen
- 10-10-2013, 08:13 AM
bump
- ready4itnetime
- 10-10-2013, 09:13 AM
Here's a brief synopsis of the previous 17 government shutdowns:
End Date 11 Oct 76, president Ford (R) House - D Senate D reason: Ford vetoed spending bill because he wanted more cuts to spending. result - Veto Overridden
End Date 13 Oct 77, president Carter (D) House and Senate D, reason Carter and the House didn't want Medicaid to pay for abortions, result - temporary measure passed to allow more time.
End Date 9 Nov 77 , president: Carter (D) House and Senate D, reason - time ran out on previous extension, result - you guessed it, another extension
End Date 9 Dec 77, Still Carter & the Democrats, reason - you guessed it, ran out of time again, resolution - worked out a COMPROMISE (not sure what that word means, couldn't find it in today's political lexicon)
End Date 18 Oct 78, still Carter and Democrats, reason Carter vetoed defense spending bill because he thought an aircraft carrier in the bill was wasteful, abortion and other issues as well. Result - new bill passed without Aircraft carrier
End Date 12 Oct 79, Carter and Democrats in House and Senate still, reason the House wanted a pay raise for themselves and senior civil servants, plus they were still bickering over medicaid funding for abortions. Result - compromise, House got their pay raise & allowed federal funds for abortion
23 Nov 81, president: Reagan (R), House D, Senate R, reason - Reagan wanted domestic spending cuts, house Democrats wanted another pay raise for themselves and Civil Servants, Senate went along with Reagan, result - temporary measure passed.
End Date 2 Oct 82, Reagan (R), House D, Senate R, reason - they ran out of time again. Resolution - they got off their asses and passed a bill. It exceeded Reagan's desire for spending cuts.
End Date 21 Dec 82, Reagan (R), House D, Senate R, reason - House was opposed to funding for the MX Missile. Also spending exceeded Reagan's wishes. Result - more compromise, MX Missile funding scrapped, jobs spending scrapped.
End Date 14 Nov 83, Reagan (R), House D, Senate (R), reason - multiple issues. Result, more compromise. (We need some historical anthropologist or something to find the meaning of this word).
End Date 3 Oct 84, Reagan (R), House D, Senate (R), reason - multiple again, result - 3 day extension passed.
End Date 5 Oct 84, Still same as above, reason 3 days wasn't long enough. Result, more compromise
End Date 18 Oct 86, Reagan, Dem House, Rep Senate. Reason - multiple issues again with another compromise - each side giving something
End Date 20 Oct 87, Reagan, House & Senate Democrat. Reason - "Fairness Doctrine" supported by Democrats, funding for Contras desired by Reagan. Result, Democrats gave up their insistence on fairness doctrine, nonlethal only aid provided to contras (Nicaragua for those of you not old enough to remember, they were a group opposed to the communist government)
End Date 9 Oct 90, president H.W. Bush, House D, Senate D. Reason - Bush pledged not to sign a bill unless it included a deficit reduction plan. Result, House & Senate passed a bill that outlined deficit reduction
End Date 13 Nov 95, President - Bill Clinton (D), Senate R, House R. reason, House republican budget committed the president to balance the budget within 7 years. Result - agreement reached to fund the government at 75% level until a new budget could be agreed to.
End Date 6 Jan 76, president Bill Clinton (D), House & Senate (R). Reason - republicans wanted a budget that balanced the budget in 7 years. Result - another COMPROMISE
FYI - there were no shutdowns in the 3 years mentioned in the initial post.
End Date 11 Oct 76, president Ford (R) House - D Senate D reason: Ford vetoed spending bill because he wanted more cuts to spending. result - Veto Overridden
End Date 13 Oct 77, president Carter (D) House and Senate D, reason Carter and the House didn't want Medicaid to pay for abortions, result - temporary measure passed to allow more time.
End Date 9 Nov 77 , president: Carter (D) House and Senate D, reason - time ran out on previous extension, result - you guessed it, another extension
End Date 9 Dec 77, Still Carter & the Democrats, reason - you guessed it, ran out of time again, resolution - worked out a COMPROMISE (not sure what that word means, couldn't find it in today's political lexicon)
End Date 18 Oct 78, still Carter and Democrats, reason Carter vetoed defense spending bill because he thought an aircraft carrier in the bill was wasteful, abortion and other issues as well. Result - new bill passed without Aircraft carrier
End Date 12 Oct 79, Carter and Democrats in House and Senate still, reason the House wanted a pay raise for themselves and senior civil servants, plus they were still bickering over medicaid funding for abortions. Result - compromise, House got their pay raise & allowed federal funds for abortion
23 Nov 81, president: Reagan (R), House D, Senate R, reason - Reagan wanted domestic spending cuts, house Democrats wanted another pay raise for themselves and Civil Servants, Senate went along with Reagan, result - temporary measure passed.
End Date 2 Oct 82, Reagan (R), House D, Senate R, reason - they ran out of time again. Resolution - they got off their asses and passed a bill. It exceeded Reagan's desire for spending cuts.
End Date 21 Dec 82, Reagan (R), House D, Senate R, reason - House was opposed to funding for the MX Missile. Also spending exceeded Reagan's wishes. Result - more compromise, MX Missile funding scrapped, jobs spending scrapped.
End Date 14 Nov 83, Reagan (R), House D, Senate (R), reason - multiple issues. Result, more compromise. (We need some historical anthropologist or something to find the meaning of this word).
End Date 3 Oct 84, Reagan (R), House D, Senate (R), reason - multiple again, result - 3 day extension passed.
End Date 5 Oct 84, Still same as above, reason 3 days wasn't long enough. Result, more compromise
End Date 18 Oct 86, Reagan, Dem House, Rep Senate. Reason - multiple issues again with another compromise - each side giving something
End Date 20 Oct 87, Reagan, House & Senate Democrat. Reason - "Fairness Doctrine" supported by Democrats, funding for Contras desired by Reagan. Result, Democrats gave up their insistence on fairness doctrine, nonlethal only aid provided to contras (Nicaragua for those of you not old enough to remember, they were a group opposed to the communist government)
End Date 9 Oct 90, president H.W. Bush, House D, Senate D. Reason - Bush pledged not to sign a bill unless it included a deficit reduction plan. Result, House & Senate passed a bill that outlined deficit reduction
End Date 13 Nov 95, President - Bill Clinton (D), Senate R, House R. reason, House republican budget committed the president to balance the budget within 7 years. Result - agreement reached to fund the government at 75% level until a new budget could be agreed to.
End Date 6 Jan 76, president Bill Clinton (D), House & Senate (R). Reason - republicans wanted a budget that balanced the budget in 7 years. Result - another COMPROMISE
FYI - there were no shutdowns in the 3 years mentioned in the initial post.
- CJ7
- 10-10-2013, 12:23 PM
Here's a brief synopsis of the previous 17 government shutdowns:
End Date 11 Oct 76, president Ford (R) House - D Senate D reason: Ford vetoed spending bill because he wanted more cuts to spending. result - Veto Overridden
End Date 13 Oct 77, president Carter (D) House and Senate D, reason Carter and the House didn't want Medicaid to pay for abortions, result - temporary measure passed to allow more time.
End Date 9 Nov 77 , president: Carter (D) House and Senate D, reason - time ran out on previous extension, result - you guessed it, another extension
End Date 9 Dec 77, Still Carter & the Democrats, reason - you guessed it, ran out of time again, resolution - worked out a COMPROMISE (not sure what that word means, couldn't find it in today's political lexicon)
End Date 18 Oct 78, still Carter and Democrats, reason Carter vetoed defense spending bill because he thought an aircraft carrier in the bill was wasteful, abortion and other issues as well. Result - new bill passed without Aircraft carrier
End Date 12 Oct 79, Carter and Democrats in House and Senate still, reason the House wanted a pay raise for themselves and senior civil servants, plus they were still bickering over medicaid funding for abortions. Result - compromise, House got their pay raise & allowed federal funds for abortion
23 Nov 81, president: Reagan (R), House D, Senate R, reason - Reagan wanted domestic spending cuts, house Democrats wanted another pay raise for themselves and Civil Servants, Senate went along with Reagan, result - temporary measure passed.
End Date 2 Oct 82, Reagan (R), House D, Senate R, reason - they ran out of time again. Resolution - they got off their asses and passed a bill. It exceeded Reagan's desire for spending cuts.
End Date 21 Dec 82, Reagan (R), House D, Senate R, reason - House was opposed to funding for the MX Missile. Also spending exceeded Reagan's wishes. Result - more compromise, MX Missile funding scrapped, jobs spending scrapped.
End Date 14 Nov 83, Reagan (R), House D, Senate (R), reason - multiple issues. Result, more compromise. (We need some historical anthropologist or something to find the meaning of this word).
End Date 3 Oct 84, Reagan (R), House D, Senate (R), reason - multiple again, result - 3 day extension passed.
End Date 5 Oct 84, Still same as above, reason 3 days wasn't long enough. Result, more compromise
End Date 18 Oct 86, Reagan, Dem House, Rep Senate. Reason - multiple issues again with another compromise - each side giving something
End Date 20 Oct 87, Reagan, House & Senate Democrat. Reason - "Fairness Doctrine" supported by Democrats, funding for Contras desired by Reagan. Result, Democrats gave up their insistence on fairness doctrine, nonlethal only aid provided to contras (Nicaragua for those of you not old enough to remember, they were a group opposed to the communist government)
End Date 9 Oct 90, president H.W. Bush, House D, Senate D. Reason - Bush pledged not to sign a bill unless it included a deficit reduction plan. Result, House & Senate passed a bill that outlined deficit reduction
End Date 13 Nov 95, President - Bill Clinton (D), Senate R, House R. reason, House republican budget committed the president to balance the budget within 7 years. Result - agreement reached to fund the government at 75% level until a new budget could be agreed to.
End Date 6 Jan 76, president Bill Clinton (D), House & Senate (R). Reason - republicans wanted a budget that balanced the budget in 7 years. Result - another COMPROMISE
FYI - there were no shutdowns in the 3 years mentioned in the initial post. Originally Posted by ready4itnetime
FYI - there were no shutdowns in the 3 years mentioned in the initial post.[/
so tell me how did you ever figure that out? the title of the thread?