Socialism

To Republicans and Democrats and Independents and others:

Are you okay with socialism and does America need it?

Do you think the taxing of Social Security Benefits is the correct way for our government to move forward?

Do you think the celebration of black history while not celebrating other races is still the correct path forward?

Broad topic but curious about the responses from both sides.
  • oeb11
  • 02-01-2021, 07:27 AM
DT - America is already a socialist country - FDR got it rolling with his New Deal.

Welfare, Social Security, ACA, Food stamps, free college, free rent, , and on and on.

We are so inured to the wealth re-distribution - we hardly recognize the new DPST/ccp plans for wealth confiscation taxes - in the name of "socialshit ideology 'equity'!
>Are you okay with socialism and does America need it?
No. The less government and less hand-outs the better. America has done a pretty good job of shaking off the "subject" mindset of Europe, and best way to keep it that way is to diminish the welfare state as much as possible.

>Do you think the taxing of Social Security Benefits is the correct way for our government to move forward?
Personally, I'd like to see SS phased out and more education around investment and saving be compulsory in education.

>Do you think the celebration of black history while not celebrating other races is still the correct path forward?
BHM can stay. I'm a white dude and BHM has no impact on my life whatsoever. People act like they're getting rounded up and taken to re-education camps over it when it's literally nothing.
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  • WTF
  • 02-01-2021, 08:04 AM
Ditto to GG...I would add that we need to cut the Industry Military Complex as it is welfare to the well connected.
Ditto to GG...I would add that we need to cut the Industry Military Complex as it is welfare to the well connected. Originally Posted by WTF
Agreed. Even Eisenhower tried warning America about the rise of the MIC and the control it was trying to exert over Washington. And this is me saying this as someone who gives these fellas enough of his own money voluntarily.
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  • WTF
  • 02-01-2021, 08:39 AM
Agreed. Even Eisenhower tried warning America about the rise of the MIC and the control it was trying to exert over Washington. And this is me saying this as someone who gives these fellas enough of his own money voluntarily. Originally Posted by GastonGlock
Most on here haven't a clue the difference between socialism and crony capitalism.

Yet they will campion one and cry about the other.
my only concern with black history month is the same concern I have with the indoctrination going on in schools

what is the slant?
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To Republicans and Democrats and Independents and others:

Are you okay with socialism and does America need it?

Do you think the taxing of Social Security Benefits is the correct way for our government to move forward?

Do you think the celebration of black history while not celebrating other races is still the correct path forward?

Broad topic but curious about the responses from both sides. Originally Posted by DTickler
To tax ssi there mise well just reduced it, tax people with money.
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Most on here haven't a clue the difference between socialism and crony capitalism.

Yet they will campion one and cry about the other. Originally Posted by WTF
campaign or champion?

posters eager for your correction
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Socialism ( any ism ) Never works out for the people
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  • WTF
  • 02-01-2021, 10:29 AM
Socialism ( any ism ) Never works out for the people Originally Posted by rexdutchman
Could you tell me the difference between socialism and crony capitalism?

Why do you champion one and vilify the other?
Could you tell me the difference between socialism and crony capitalism?

Why do you champion one and vilify the other? Originally Posted by WTF
Now in fairness, I don't think those are exclusive - I think you can vilify both.
  • Tiny
  • 02-01-2021, 12:06 PM
Could you tell me the difference between socialism and crony capitalism?

Why do you champion one and vilify the other? Originally Posted by WTF
That's silly WTF. Because if you're a socialist or a crony capitalist, that's what you do, of course.

As to the difference, Socialists want the government to have all the power. And crony capitalists also want the government to have all the power, just as long as government gives them rent seeking advantages.

Though we may be few in number, Libertarians and small government/free market Republicans are superior to both.
  • oeb11
  • 02-01-2021, 12:44 PM
Those who lap at teh Government trough are impossible to convince of common sense.
ideology uber alles!!!
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  • WTF
  • 02-01-2021, 01:24 PM
Now in fairness, I don't think those are exclusive - I think you can vilify both. Originally Posted by GastonGlock
Agreed