Anyone else kinda feeling like they're DONE?

Average hourly rates between $400 - $700
Reduced services.
Bad reviews.
Screening with IDs.
Deposits.
Scams.
Increased LE scrutiny.

I don't know about everyone else, but my income has not gone up, and the nut has not seemed worth the investment lately.
Just my 2 cents.

Same here man, the frequency of my encounters has gone way down lately.

Might take AG’s suggestion about going out of the country. Just need some blue or green contacts, lol

Same here. Well said. I plan to see a few of my favorite Indy’s to say farewell and then hang it up.

I’d add fake/old pics to your list. Even on 411, some well-reviewed providers have heavily edited or old pics. And too many reviewers don’t mention it

Get your passport ready. More bang for the buck out of country if you can swing it

Get your passport ready. More bang for the buck out of country if you can swing it Originally Posted by slap

Yep, is cheaper for me to go to El Salvador or Colombia. In Medellin you can go to the many legal brothels and for 1-2 hours spend time with beautiful Colombian and Venezuelan gals for $10-$30. that's ten and thirty dollars. Had a 3 some there with 2 Venezuelan gals last for $30 USD. They bathed me, took care of business for about an hour or so, then bathed me again to make sure I was clean before I left and 1 even ironed my shirt. They have a thing about appearance down there. Never be seen with wrinkled clothes. They think your woman is not caring for you properly.

Now that $1= 4900 Colombian pesos, exchange $100-$300 and you'll live like a king for a week with plenty of beautiful women who will also be more than happy to spend time off work hours with you for dinner and clubs OTC just to spend time with you.

The cost of a ticket is cheap when you add up how many times you got suckered into paying $350-$500 here for a robotic hour with many of the Slags on OH2 where much of it is talk and attitude of GPS each month plus you get to experience a beautiful city.

If you have gray, blue, or green eyes, those gals will be clambering over each other for you even regular gals in the club and restaurants.

Right now they're kind of weary in Medellin. Last week a married US clean cut blonde hair blue eyes regular guy met a gal there then he tortured killed her and stuffed her in a suitcase with only her head sticking out and put in a dumpster. Now all over social media people are warning that those safe Americans are just as dangerous as the bad guys anywhere.

while a good suggestion, not every horny guy can hop on a plane and go to another country to have sex with young women.

but for those that can, i hope you get some memorable foreign delites! (in the positive sense and not the "Midnight Express" kind of memories)

I blame the idiots supporting high rates, giving in to stupid requirements and not staying firm on what they believe. These whores prey on weak guys.

If I was Mayor of the hobby, I'll Purge out a lot of whores, improve the quality of services and bring rates down. Vote for me in the next hobby elections 😆

ND I feel you brother, the thrill is gone. My regular provider fell off the face of the earth. Now It’s just not the same anymore. The last year has been all strike outs. I even had a horrible encounter with a very well reviewed veteran. She has me waiting in a parking garage for an hour. Then rushed me Thru a session that was avg at best. She offer to reschedule and gave me some of my $ back but I just was not feeling it. Then after being ghosted, cat fished, over charged by others over the last 12 months. I am right there with you, done!!!

ND I feel you brother, the thrill is gone. My regular provider fell off the face of the earth. Now It’s just not the same anymore. The last year has been all strike outs. I even had a horrible encounter with a very well reviewed veteran. She has me waiting in a parking garage for an hour. Then rushed me Thru a session that was avg at best. She offer to reschedule and gave me some of my $ back but I just was not feeling it. Then after being ghosted, cat fished, over charged by others over the last 12 months. I am right there with you, done!!! Originally Posted by JW55

Who dat

Its the simps enabling this behavior

Rule number one: There are more women on earth than men. Pussy is not an endangered species! Stop acting like its valuable!

The enabling simps have driven away lots of clients from the hobby. This needs to stop

Dallas seems the safest place.
I would stay out of the suburbs. A felony is serious shit no matter how u spin it.

As someone told me, "If you don"t like the fish your catching, consider the pond your fishing in."

Plenty of fish out there. Get creative about how you find what your looking for. I know I have little problem finding good looking, if not hot, women with great service in a very competive price range, if charged at all, when I choose to look.

Your're spoiled by coming to sites like this and basicly having it handed to you. Times have changed. I took time to lay ground work in the strip clubs some area bars, and other places so now I can walk in, choose what I want and setup a meet. Or make a few calls. Its not always 100% but sure is easier than what you guys moan about.

Friday afternoon, took a really hot stripper I know to a Spa for the day, dinner there, massage, and she invited me in for an hour or so "hanging out" Cost me under $300 and had a very nice 5 hours. It worked bacause she knows me as a good customer that does not try to hussle her for cheap in club services. And yes, we do have "fun" in the club and for far less then she charges other guys.

Met a gal at an Art show. Been out twice for dinner. No score yet, but moving quicking in that direction. In the mean time, had a couple of real nice dates with a very attrative non-SWer.

It can be done, especialy if you treat every woman with respect and not as a hooker or stripper, even if they are one

Its the simps enabling this behavior

Rule number one: There are more women on earth than men. Pussy is not an endangered species! Stop acting like its valuable!

The enabling simps have driven away lots of clients from the hobby. This needs to stop Originally Posted by winn dixie

Blame it all on other peole rather than consider if anything you are doing is part of your problem.

The gender ratio in the US for 2022 is .975 so yes, there are a whole 2.5% more women than men in the US. For those with poor math skills, that 957 men for every 1000 women. Huge, huge suprlus.

Pussy is worth, to me, exactly what I pay for it. Maybe that why I am not on here complaining about the cost. Costs have gone up so i just don't do it as much or budget my other expenses better. Or look for ways to find what I want in my price range.

The simps are the ones always complaining and crying about things. No one ever said the Hobby was a poor mans game.

Just might be a correlation between all the complaining and the quality of pussy you get. Could be the quality of women on here has gone down because of all the constant bitching and complaining. Try creating a respetful, polite, welcoming enviroment and the response from the ladies will be astonishing

As someone told me, "If you don"t like the fish your catching, consider the pond your fishing in."

Plenty of fish out there. Get creative about how you find what your looking for. I know I have little problem finding good looking, if not hot, women with great service in a very competive price range, if charged at all, when I choose to look.

Your're spoiled by coming to sites like this and basicly having it handed to you. Times have changed. I took time to lay ground work in the strip clubs some area bars, and other places so now I can walk in, choose what I want and setup a meet. Or make a few calls. Its not always 100% but sure is easier than what you guys moan about.

Friday afternoon, took a really hot stripper I know to a Spa for the day, dinner there, massage, and she invited me in for an hour or so "hanging out" Cost me under $300 and had a very nice 5 hours. It worked bacause she knows me as a good customer that does not try to hussle her for cheap in club services. And yes, we do have "fun" in the club and for far less then she charges other guys.

Met a gal at an Art show. Been out twice for dinner. No score yet, but moving quicking in that direction. In the mean time, had a couple of real nice dates with a very attrative non-SWer.

It can be done, especialy if you treat every woman with respect and not as a hooker or stripper, even if they are one Originally Posted by oldbutstillgoing

Good advice and nice find, hookers are taking advantage of guys that have no other means of getting laid and sticking it to them. SMH

Its the simps enabling this behavior

Rule number one: There are more women on earth than men. Pussy is not an endangered species! Stop acting like its valuable!

The enabling simps have driven away lots of clients from the hobby. This needs to stop Originally Posted by winn dixie

Yes, but a man's sex drive is about 8 times higher than that of the woman. You should have figured out long ago that's one of two reasons we are in this situation.



The second being: in addition to money, many women want a well built, humorous, devout christian with a master's degree who will give them children. Let's say you are athletic, humorous, but only have a bachelor's degree. Then what?


It's exceptionally rare for a woman not to give a shit about a man's income. And for the few that do, they have to have some other reason for wanting to either fuck the guy, or date the guy.



The difference is, the women who engage in less formal prostitution want all kinds of other stuff to go with the money, like a guy they can take back to their folks and show off like some sort of prized possession. Most of the girls the guys on this forum deal with don't care about all the remainder of that stuff, as long as you have the money, they generally only want you to be respectful and clean, that's it.


The friction being created here is because most guys can't go for the girls who are looking at factors other than money.... or they don't want to because the girl in question is not pretty. And when you turn to the ones who are strictly looking for money, there's a very large disconnect between what was going on in this country in 2019, and what is going on in this country now.


The best value to be had is heading for Central or South America. But, this is time consuming and risky. However, the cash to quality ratio is entirely unsurpassed by anything you will find in the USA. I already created a post about this, that breaks down the cost piece by piece


https://www.eccie.net/showthread.php...683&highlight=