question from a cautious newbie

so a total newbie to the hobby. of course i see that one should seek providers with good reviews . and i see those providers want the hobbiest to be verified. and i see there are a lot of places to join for that. but you are still not verified until a provider writes a review that you are a safe hobbiest and not some sort of ax murderer. so fr a married hobbiest that needs max discretion how does one protect you identity yet provide the provider what they need to feel safe. any suggestion for safe cell phone also. just have visions of someone calling my home. married and want and need to stay that way but little if any sex at home so looking into the hobby

Search for "Newbie Friendly" providers. They are out there. They will probably require some form of ID or verification though. When you find a "Newbie Friendly" hooker you want to fuck, check out her reviews. If she's well reviewed, you'll be alright.

I mean, there is no guarantee that the chick won't use your info to screw you over. But the entire hobby is a risk. Risk of catching something (rubbers make it safer but are not fool-proof), risk of getting arrested (It's illegal, of course), Risk of getting robbed by the chick or pimp (ECCIE verified hookers are less likely to be a rip-off though.) The ENTIRE hobby is a risk. If that's a problem, don't hobby and stay home and jack off.

I have NEVER needed a "reference". Not even once. Of course, the vast majority of the hookers I bang I found on Backpage. Still, I never go with any of the chicks off of BP unless I received some intel first from one of the local whore mongers on here that we share info with. But, even with the ECCIE providers I have seen, I haven't had a problem with references.

Yes start with Newbie friendly providers then next thing you know your writing reviews and giving other newbies advice. Stay safe.

Yes. It's challenging to get "started",but stay persistent and read all you can around here.

so a total newbie to the hobby. of course i see that one should seek providers with good reviews . and i see those providers want the hobbiest to be verified. and i see there are a lot of places to join for that. but you are still not verified until a provider writes a review that you are a safe hobbiest and not some sort of ax murderer. so fr a married hobbiest that needs max discretion how does one protect you identity yet provide the provider what they need to feel safe. any suggestion for safe cell phone also. just have visions of someone calling my home. married and want and need to stay that way but little if any sex at home so looking into the hobby Originally Posted by justforshsfl

You start by doing your due diligence. There hundreds of threads on this subject. Make the Search tab your friend. Or go back to downloading porn.

The key to discreet and successful hobbying is spend a lot of time on research before you select a well established newbie friendly provider that can give you all the credibility you want. You want a well established provider because you are trusting her with some personal information so she can screen you, and want to make sure she will dispose of that information once you visit her. Write a review of her here and other sites, and ask her to verify you with verification sites. You can pay for those with cash to keep it anonymous.

Second, get a burner phone at Wal Mart, etc. Cheap and easy and if it is ever discovered, you can say you found it and meant to turn it in. Then get a new one and think of a new excuse.

Third, keep the hobby off your personal and work computers. For $400, you can get a laptop that you can use and store information. Have some porn easily stored on it so if it is discovered, it is your porn computer. You can never totally clean a computer's memory and the risk of using one for the hobby and with your personal information is too great. Basically, you want to have totally separate hobby electronics from the electronics in your civilian and work lives. Not that you can't be traced, but you just want to make it hard for someone to track you down and make the connections between the hobby and civilian online personas. And never use a personal credit card from your hobby phone or computer. Only use anonymous gift cards that you buy with cash.

Fourth, unless you are in a really small market, stay off BP, at least at first until you've learned to do research and can screen well. Stay with established providers here and on verification sites. Trust me, the additional cost is well worth the peace of mind and your total experience will be much better.

Finally, be careful; this hobby can become quite addicting. Try different types of ladies until you settle on the types that you like and enjoy spending time with. There is something here for everyone's tastes.

BTW, there are lots of guys here just like you that need discretion but some excitement in life.

^^^^^ Stellar advice!

Here's how I did it.....

Step one.....researched newbie friendly providers on here till I found a couple of them with many great reviews that I felt I could trust....and in fact, I could...they were nice girls!

Told each of them that I was trying to get P411 verified and would they please give me a reference when P411 checked me out....both agreed....again...very nice girls.

Signed up with Preferred 411 (used a burner credit card to sign up...no paper trail) I PM both the newbie friendly providers and told them that the lady from Preferred 411 was going to call that afternoon to verify that they saw me and that I'm a nice guy who doesn't hurt providers......

P411 verify's me that afternoon and I'm in!

I've been P411 approved since 2010.........once you have a decent number of reviews on the boards...say 10+ ....you can contact pretty much any provider and say "ive got such and such number of reviews and many ref's on P411....Once you are P411 approved it's unlikely that you'll ever have an issue seeing great providers again...

BTW....great advice from an earlier poster about getting a Walmart burner phone....I need to get another one....currently I'm working strictly through private messages here on the boards when I see a provider...it works fine but it's a little slow.....

Whatever you do....DO NOT use your daily/work cell phone as someone can take that number and find out EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU!!!!
I shouldn't have to say that...pretty common sense stuff...but believe it or not...there's been guy's on here who've got in trouble that way!

Bottom line....think about what your doing and don't be stupid!!!

P.S.....one of those two first providers still comes and goes in the business (currently out) and I still see her occasionally.....in fact we like each other well enough that I took her on a 5 day Caribbean cruise a couple of years ago!

I called her up for a session and when the sucking and fucking was done and we were cuddling and talking ....told her that I really wanted to go on a cruise and that aside from really enjoying sex with her that I liked her company...she's a sweet and fun girl!...and would she be willing to be my cuddly bedmate at night and fellow tourist during the day if I paid for the cruise and threw in a $100 a day spending money for her.....Hell yeah she said!

Had a fabulous time and got laid at least twice every day!