WHY all the bargaining??

Just my own opinion here but feel free to chime in with any of yours. When a providers posts a donation expense, shouldn't that be the LAST say on the price of time? That is unless she says she is posting a "special" or "ask about specials". There are a number of post with guys haggling like a shrew Arab trader over price that drive a provider to rip her hair out I would imagine. I guess in my opinion this just doesn't need to happen.
The term "cheapie creepy" I see recently, I am guessing that crows comes to ind as the worst offenders? I generally only partake in BNG/oral/BIG boobs and have done many single and double of these. These generally tend the be the "lowest cost". I don't partake in these because of the price, I partake because that is my thing and what I never EVER receive at home :-(. I don't do FS for my own reasons that I have had many condoms break in my outside hobby dating world. I look at it as a business transaction with a person whom I can also talk to, laugh a bit with, have fun, and above all RESPECT.
The providers on here do this for an endless variety of reasons, choice, lust, nympho, fun etc, but regardless of why they do it they should NEVER be made to feel inferior or an item to be tossed aside and ridiculed for doing what you are there for. Just remember you contacted THEM or raised an SOS in the ISO thread.

WK much?

A business transaction. If done with respect and decorum discussing rate is just part of bus. If a woman feels she is worth 300 hr and can get it great. However if the day comes and goes w no takers. If a decent guy who can only affor/justify 200 hr asks in a nice way perhaps they reach a point where it makes sense for both parties. If it doesn't nothing ventured nothing gained.

one complaint I have is providers will post up different rates. their profile will say one price, then I will see 2 ads they put up with other prices, then their p411 will have another price. and when I ask them what their price is they get mad like I am trying to negotiate, I'm not! So what I started doing was taking the most they listed, then when I get there I ask them what the rate is in person and they usually tell me something in between so I give it to them.

Just like buying anything, if a potential client chooses to negotiate, it is their prerogative. The lady asking a specific rate can always say "No, thank you". Some people won't pay retail; others are fine with it. I prefer not to bargain, because I don't want the stress of negotiation, but that's entirely up to me. As a service provider, the lady in question has to accept that she will encounter all types, from cheapskates to those who make it rain at the slightest provocation.

That's a fact of being in business for oneself.

I dont bargain because I don't want to set the mode to lower price.

I feel if I pay lower price I will get lower service.

I do ask what the price is and they tell me, I say ok, thanks and they normally ask "How much you got"

It isn't a question of how much I got, it's a question of if what I am willing to spend is worth what they look like.

I won't see them if they want to change their price either though..

These women are prostitutes. This is not some loving relationship where I actual care about the chick. She is a product or rather a service and it is worth what I will pay for it and what she will take.

If they are willing to go down on the price and I can get the same services that someone else is willing to pay more for, that is fine by me. I don't owe them anything except what we have agreed will occur and what we have agreed she will accept. IF a prostitute doesn't want to take less, she can say no. IF I don't want to pay the asking price, I can say no.

I think many of the hobbyist seem to get very confused as to what the john/prostitute/trick game is all about. Just because these women aren't on the side of the road offering up the goods doesn't mean they have miraculously changed the game. It is still the same thing going on and I would suggest everyone bargain the hoes down and pay less. Pussy, Head and Ass aren't gold.

I don't bother with bargaining. If a gal appeals to me and the donation is in the ball park of what I can afford I'll see them. For me it's more about having fun than trying to save money.

Just my own opinion here but feel free to chime in with any of yours. When a providers posts a donation expense, shouldn't that be the LAST say on the price of time? ... Originally Posted by victors_secret

Yes. You're quite correct.

If I want to book two hours and she quotes a price online for two hours, I just ask to book two hours, and pay what she quotes ... no need for any mention of money. I have, once or twice, proposed an amount when the amount of time I wanted to book wasn't on her "menu board." In those cases, I simply said, "Would $X for a dinner date or clock-free evening or whatever work?" and assumed that if that wasn't satisfactory, she'd make a counter-offer. But it's never gotten that far, as my original offer must have been okay.

Yes, when I buy a car, I bargain. I haggle. Making a date with a reputable, experienced escort isn't buying a car. For one thing, it isn't a necessity of life. Rosie Palm and her five daughters still work for free, you know. Time with a sex worker is a treat. It's a luxury. I'm not wealthy. I usually can't afford to see a working woman, and when I can't, I don't see a working woman. (Hello, Rosie! Hello, Rosie's daughters!) But when I can afford it, I'm looking for a good and pleasant time. I'm looking for a woman who will simulate affection for me. I'm looking for a woman who will pretend convincingly that she's having a good time. I'm looking to feel good and happy when it's time to leave, and I'm looking to be welcome to make a return visit. Now, probably I'm just being foolish, but it seems to me that it's counterproductive -- if you're looking for what I'm looking for -- to haggle and treat a woman as if she's a piece of meat and maybe save ten or twenty percent, and then depend on the acting ability of a woman who's probably ticked off at you. And if you're just looking for friction ... again, Rosie + her five daughters + internet porn are all free. A woman who really doesn't like you because of the way you treated her is much more expensive, even if you did haggle her down.

Life is full of choices. Choose wisely, grasshopper.

I love this post, bargaining really does set the tone. If we get along, I usually offer a private rate for your next visit to show my appreciation.

Yes. You're quite correct.

If I want to book two hours and she quotes a price online for two hours, I just ask to book two hours, and pay what she quotes ... no need for any mention of money. I have, once or twice, proposed an amount when the amount of time I wanted to book wasn't on her "menu board." In those cases, I simply said, "Would $X for a dinner date or clock-free evening or whatever work?" and assumed that if that wasn't satisfactory, she'd make a counter-offer. But it's never gotten that far, as my original offer must have been okay.

Yes, when I buy a car, I bargain. I haggle. Making a date with a reputable, experienced escort isn't buying a car. For one thing, it isn't a necessity of life. Rosie Palm and her five daughters still work for free, you know. Time with a sex worker is a treat. It's a luxury. I'm not wealthy. I usually can't afford to see a working woman, and when I can't, I don't see a working woman. (Hello, Rosie! Hello, Rosie's daughters!) But when I can afford it, I'm looking for a good and pleasant time. I'm looking for a woman who will simulate affection for me. I'm looking for a woman who will pretend convincingly that she's having a good time. I'm looking to feel good and happy when it's time to leave, and I'm looking to be welcome to make a return visit. Now, probably I'm just being foolish, but it seems to me that it's counterproductive -- if you're looking for what I'm looking for -- to haggle and treat a woman as if she's a piece of meat and maybe save ten or twenty percent, and then depend on the acting ability of a woman who's probably ticked off at you. And if you're just looking for friction ... again, Rosie + her five daughters + internet porn are all free. A woman who really doesn't like you because of the way you treated her is much more expensive, even if you did haggle her down.

Life is full of choices. Choose wisely, grasshopper. Originally Posted by James1588

I'm with you, James. It all depends on what you are looking for in the hobby. Like you, I am looking for a total experience, not just a specific act. I'm also looking for discretion, security, no drama, no drugs, safety, and minimizing risk. Bargaining would certainly change the mood and likely take away from the experience I am looking for.

If I'm not willing to pay the asking price, I move on; there are plenty of ladies at all price ranges. But if a guy feels he can get a "better deal" out of bargaining, that's up to him. We all prioritize what we value; minimizing expenses is not my priority, rather maximizing the experience.

What gets me is the guys that bitch about MY hobby spending and expect me to bargain just because that is what they value. We are all different and value different things. Just look at the cars on the highway. Some drive Porsches, some drive Lexus, some drive used Chevys or even Kias. They all have 4 wheels and get you from one place to another. The difference is a personal choice based on what you value. And can afford. For my choice, I choose Jaguar. In the words of Richard Pryor in the movie Silver Streak, "That [Chevy] is jerking off. Now this [Jaguar] is pure pussy".

Yes. You're quite correct.

If I want to book two hours and she quotes a price online for two hours, I just ask to book two hours, and pay what she quotes ... no need for any mention of money. I have, once or twice, proposed an amount when the amount of time I wanted to book wasn't on her "menu board." In those cases, I simply said, "Would $X for a dinner date or clock-free evening or whatever work?" and assumed that if that wasn't satisfactory, she'd make a counter-offer. But it's never gotten that far, as my original offer must have been okay.

Yes, when I buy a car, I bargain. I haggle. Making a date with a reputable, experienced escort isn't buying a car. For one thing, it isn't a necessity of life. Rosie Palm and her five daughters still work for free, you know. Time with a sex worker is a treat. It's a luxury. I'm not wealthy. I usually can't afford to see a working woman, and when I can't, I don't see a working woman. (Hello, Rosie! Hello, Rosie's daughters!) But when I can afford it, I'm looking for a good and pleasant time. I'm looking for a woman who will simulate affection for me. I'm looking for a woman who will pretend convincingly that she's having a good time. I'm looking to feel good and happy when it's time to leave, and I'm looking to be welcome to make a return visit. Now, probably I'm just being foolish, but it seems to me that it's counterproductive -- if you're looking for what I'm looking for -- to haggle and treat a woman as if she's a piece of meat and maybe save ten or twenty percent, and then depend on the acting ability of a woman who's probably ticked off at you. And if you're just looking for friction ... again, Rosie + her five daughters + internet porn are all free. A woman who really doesn't like you because of the way you treated her is much more expensive, even if you did haggle her down.

Life is full of choices. Choose wisely, grasshopper. Originally Posted by James1588

Guys bargain because they can, is it cool? ...no

A lady can say yes, say no, or just delete the request. Pretty simple....no need to pull out hair.....lol.

Yes. You're quite correct.

If I want to book two hours and she quotes a price online for two hours, I just ask to book two hours, and pay what she quotes ... no need for any mention of money. I have, once or twice, proposed an amount when the amount of time I wanted to book wasn't on her "menu board." In those cases, I simply said, "Would $X for a dinner date or clock-free evening or whatever work?" and assumed that if that wasn't satisfactory, she'd make a counter-offer. But it's never gotten that far, as my original offer must have been okay.

Yes, when I buy a car, I bargain. I haggle. Making a date with a reputable, experienced escort isn't buying a car. For one thing, it isn't a necessity of life. Rosie Palm and her five daughters still work for free, you know. Time with a sex worker is a treat. It's a luxury. I'm not wealthy. I usually can't afford to see a working woman, and when I can't, I don't see a working woman. (Hello, Rosie! Hello, Rosie's daughters!) But when I can afford it, I'm looking for a good and pleasant time. I'm looking for a woman who will simulate affection for me. I'm looking for a woman who will pretend convincingly that she's having a good time. I'm looking to feel good and happy when it's time to leave, and I'm looking to be welcome to make a return visit. Now, probably I'm just being foolish, but it seems to me that it's counterproductive -- if you're looking for what I'm looking for -- to haggle and treat a woman as if she's a piece of meat and maybe save ten or twenty percent, and then depend on the acting ability of a woman who's probably ticked off at you. And if you're just looking for friction ... again, Rosie + her five daughters + internet porn are all free. A woman who really doesn't like you because of the way you treated her is much more expensive, even if you did haggle her down.

Life is full of choices. Choose wisely, grasshopper. Originally Posted by James1588

The Epistle of James. Very well said, sir.

Negotiating is a douche move but, look around, especially here...there are douche-bags everywhere!!

Men, you are perfectly welcome to negotiate whatever rate you want - Ladies, you are perfectly welcome to say yes or no.

It all depends on who you are as a person and who you're dealing with as a provider.

Bottom line - Everybody is different or all the same....I'm just not sure.

People have their own thing. I don't get when people post threads asking others to do things the way they do it. Why bargain OP asks, because I want to. Why pay posted price without asking for less because I want to.

These women have no feelings for any one on here. Thus, bargaining should never make the service less, if it does she was not professional. worrying about how the provider feels is dumb. She does not want to be your date or your lover, she is paid to tolerate you doing her. Her feelings are already misguided, a little bargaining should not push the limit. If she does not want to be treated like a piece of meat, she should not put ass out there like a piece of meat. You people are crazy, lol. Do you believe all these women enjoy what they do? They don't want to be fucked by you and every ad says "I love what I do" No they don't, they love the easy money, not us. Do what you like and stop worrying about how she feels.