I find it tragically ironic that Israel has been forced by Hamas' indiscriminate rocket attacks to lay siege to The Gaza Strip. The results must be measured in the lives of innocents lost by seemingly casual attacks by the Israeli Army and Air Force in response to Hamas unguided missles aimed at Israel.
The irony is the comparison to be drawn between today's slaughter of inncoents in Gaza and that which occurred in Warsaw during WWII when the Nazis laid seige to the ghettos after Jews decided to defend themselves and reject the Nazis desire to lead Jews to death camps like sheep to a slaughter. I'm aghast at both sides.
The leaders of Gaza should have killed as many members of Hamas as possible when it entered the Gaza Strip more than 10 years ago and took control of its infrastructure. They were too weak, cowardly and lazy. The results are now playing out in the Gaza Strip as Hamas hides behind innocent civilians when launching its missles at Israel. Those that have protesterd Hamas' tactics disappear or are publicly executed as examples. The progeny of ISIS? Perhaps.
Here and now, the Israelis are compelled to lay seige to The Gaza Strip in much the same strategic manner as the Nazis did to Warsaw. How chilling for such a murderous tactic to now be employed by Israel as it fights to reign in Hamas. Destroying the tunnels is a temporary solution at best. Perhaps that's the best to be achieved but at the cost of many innocent dead women and children. Israel has cemented in place a new generation of hate for its people in the Middle East and many places in Europe. It's a no-win scenario without the eradication of Hamas or Israel...or both.
- txcwby6
- 08-04-2014, 02:02 PM
- MooneyFlyer
- 08-04-2014, 02:26 PM
Take it to the political threads ... you'll find plenty of interested playmates.
- ItsMeNotYou
- 08-30-2014, 05:03 AM
No Similarity or Irony whatsoever. Nazis were trying to exterminate Jews and many other groups. Israelis are not trying to exterminate anyone and only want to be left alone. Israelis gave Gaza back to Hamas under international pressure and lots of promises from the savage pigs. Anyone with a pinch of common sense knew that was stupid. Aid money that the US and others send to the pigs is stolen by their leaders and used for arms. Israel supplied concrete to the pigs and they used it to build tunnels. Yasser Arafat (PLO terrorist leader) stole roughly $1 Billion. Oh and he got a Nobel Peace Prize.
Just like the ConMan/POS in chief who got a Nobel Prize for doing absolutely nothing. All he has done is increase violence and death worldwide. Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Ukraine.
Who, in advance, announces to your enemies what you won't do?
He draws a line in the sand in the middle east which is ignored and their are no consequences. So all that does is prove to Putin what a joke the DoucheBag in chief is. So he seizes Crimea despite threats of consequences by the worst President we have ever had (tough to beat out Clinton, LBJ,FDR,
Obama's only hope is Hillary gets elected so he can be the 2nd worst president of all time. The biggest hypocrite incompetent lying criminal female politician of all time.
Neville Obama.
(if you don't get that, you are too stupid to ever vote, so please don't)
Back to the savage pigs.
Israelis respect life and try to minimize civilian casualties wherever possible.
Hamas tries to maximize civilian casualties both their own and Israelis.
They target school buses and do delayed second bombers to get first responders. They launch missiles from schools and hospitals. They surround launch cites with as many civilians as they can. They store rockets in UN schools. After these are discovered, does the UN turn these over to the Israelis? Nope. Then the UN decries Israel attacks. Same old, same old. UN has been a corrupt useless organizations for many decades. Scandal after scandal after scandal. The IPCC which is the UN unit that foments all the mindless global warming hysteria so third world countries can extort more money from 1st world countries.
Back to the savage pigs.
Israelis will even announce targets in advance so they can be evacuated. The also do roof knocking where small explosions are set off on the roof of a building giving warning and time to evacuate before they building is destroyed (you can find YouTube videos of this).
The Israelis problem is they are too civilized when dealing with savage pigs.
After the 67 & 73 wars the territory gained (don't attack someone and then complain when you lose territory) should have been completely evacuated and the occupants absorbed by their countries. These people were Jordanians and Egyptians and Syrians before their land was lost because the savages tried to destroy Israel. They were offered a separate Palestine when Israel was formed after WWII and turned it down.
And since they breed like rabbits there are far more to move out than back then.
The problem is they are such pigs the countries that they are citizens of don't want them back.
The Jordanians don't want them back (the west bank and the eastern parts).
The Syrians don't want them back (Golan heights)
The Egyptians don't want them back (Gaza)
Hell they could have been moved to the Sinai though Israel should have kept that to as a big buffer.
Of course Egypt was bought off by Jimmy Carter with your tax dollars. The whole deal was nothing more than we'll pay you to stop f'ng with Israel. So they have been our 3rd or 4th biggest recipient of foreign aid since Carter. Over $1 Billion in 2012 and most of that was military assistance (why do we give military assistance to people that will be Israel's / Our enemy sooner or later? If you took out Afghanistan & Iraq aid which is wars related, Egypt would be #2 recipient.
Stupid amounts of money go to Pakistan (who couldn't find Bin Laden in their country for years and then took the expensive equipment we left behind after the Bin Laden raid). Kenya ranks high too (not too hard to figure that one out). Of course West Bank/Gaza get lots of aid from us. Why?
What was the result of all the stupid humanitarian aid to crap hole countries all over the world? More starvation and misery. Why because instead of disease and starvation controlling the populations when the people wouldn't, more survived long enough to reproduce and the populations of the 3rd world exploded creating far more starvation, disease, and all around suffering.
Problem is SFLs can't think more than 1 step out.
Weak presidents create wars (Wilson = WW1, FDR = WWII, Truman = Korea, Kennedy/Johnson = Vietnam, Bush Sr = Iraq 1 & 2 (2 would not have happened if we took control of whole country), Obama = multiple places).
9/11 wasn't caused by Bush. 9/11 was originally planned for 2000 (under Clinton) and was due to Clinton not focusing on terrorism. He cut covert operations budget in half mid-90s as SFL idea of "peace dividend" and issued executive order banning assassinations (another stupid SFL goal then despite assassinations working real well for us for a long time). Of course the current Douche bag in chief has brought back assassinations without a peep from SFLs even though American citizens (terrorists yes but still American citizens) have been assassinated. Even though the word Assassin comes from a group of Muslims of the same name. Clinton is even the imbecile who did a regular civilian trial of the first twin tower bombers (yes first twin tower bombing was under Clinton in '93). That didn't wind up 2000 or 2001. The savage pigs had already said they would try again and there goal had been and remained to topple one or more towers to fall into adjacent buildings.
And DoucheBag in Chief worked a deal with Iran so they continue enriching Uranium? Are you f'ng kidding me? The people are in control are insane and repeatedly call for the annihilation of Israel and the US.
Despite campaign lies (not promises, lies) to do something up North Korea & Iran he has done nothing and their capabilities for nuclear evil has progressed.
Just like the ConMan/POS in chief who got a Nobel Prize for doing absolutely nothing. All he has done is increase violence and death worldwide. Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Ukraine.
Who, in advance, announces to your enemies what you won't do?
He draws a line in the sand in the middle east which is ignored and their are no consequences. So all that does is prove to Putin what a joke the DoucheBag in chief is. So he seizes Crimea despite threats of consequences by the worst President we have ever had (tough to beat out Clinton, LBJ,FDR,
Obama's only hope is Hillary gets elected so he can be the 2nd worst president of all time. The biggest hypocrite incompetent lying criminal female politician of all time.
Neville Obama.
(if you don't get that, you are too stupid to ever vote, so please don't)
Back to the savage pigs.
Israelis respect life and try to minimize civilian casualties wherever possible.
Hamas tries to maximize civilian casualties both their own and Israelis.
They target school buses and do delayed second bombers to get first responders. They launch missiles from schools and hospitals. They surround launch cites with as many civilians as they can. They store rockets in UN schools. After these are discovered, does the UN turn these over to the Israelis? Nope. Then the UN decries Israel attacks. Same old, same old. UN has been a corrupt useless organizations for many decades. Scandal after scandal after scandal. The IPCC which is the UN unit that foments all the mindless global warming hysteria so third world countries can extort more money from 1st world countries.
Back to the savage pigs.
Israelis will even announce targets in advance so they can be evacuated. The also do roof knocking where small explosions are set off on the roof of a building giving warning and time to evacuate before they building is destroyed (you can find YouTube videos of this).
The Israelis problem is they are too civilized when dealing with savage pigs.
After the 67 & 73 wars the territory gained (don't attack someone and then complain when you lose territory) should have been completely evacuated and the occupants absorbed by their countries. These people were Jordanians and Egyptians and Syrians before their land was lost because the savages tried to destroy Israel. They were offered a separate Palestine when Israel was formed after WWII and turned it down.
And since they breed like rabbits there are far more to move out than back then.
The problem is they are such pigs the countries that they are citizens of don't want them back.
The Jordanians don't want them back (the west bank and the eastern parts).
The Syrians don't want them back (Golan heights)
The Egyptians don't want them back (Gaza)
Hell they could have been moved to the Sinai though Israel should have kept that to as a big buffer.
Of course Egypt was bought off by Jimmy Carter with your tax dollars. The whole deal was nothing more than we'll pay you to stop f'ng with Israel. So they have been our 3rd or 4th biggest recipient of foreign aid since Carter. Over $1 Billion in 2012 and most of that was military assistance (why do we give military assistance to people that will be Israel's / Our enemy sooner or later? If you took out Afghanistan & Iraq aid which is wars related, Egypt would be #2 recipient.
Stupid amounts of money go to Pakistan (who couldn't find Bin Laden in their country for years and then took the expensive equipment we left behind after the Bin Laden raid). Kenya ranks high too (not too hard to figure that one out). Of course West Bank/Gaza get lots of aid from us. Why?
What was the result of all the stupid humanitarian aid to crap hole countries all over the world? More starvation and misery. Why because instead of disease and starvation controlling the populations when the people wouldn't, more survived long enough to reproduce and the populations of the 3rd world exploded creating far more starvation, disease, and all around suffering.
Problem is SFLs can't think more than 1 step out.
Weak presidents create wars (Wilson = WW1, FDR = WWII, Truman = Korea, Kennedy/Johnson = Vietnam, Bush Sr = Iraq 1 & 2 (2 would not have happened if we took control of whole country), Obama = multiple places).
9/11 wasn't caused by Bush. 9/11 was originally planned for 2000 (under Clinton) and was due to Clinton not focusing on terrorism. He cut covert operations budget in half mid-90s as SFL idea of "peace dividend" and issued executive order banning assassinations (another stupid SFL goal then despite assassinations working real well for us for a long time). Of course the current Douche bag in chief has brought back assassinations without a peep from SFLs even though American citizens (terrorists yes but still American citizens) have been assassinated. Even though the word Assassin comes from a group of Muslims of the same name. Clinton is even the imbecile who did a regular civilian trial of the first twin tower bombers (yes first twin tower bombing was under Clinton in '93). That didn't wind up 2000 or 2001. The savage pigs had already said they would try again and there goal had been and remained to topple one or more towers to fall into adjacent buildings.
And DoucheBag in Chief worked a deal with Iran so they continue enriching Uranium? Are you f'ng kidding me? The people are in control are insane and repeatedly call for the annihilation of Israel and the US.
Despite campaign lies (not promises, lies) to do something up North Korea & Iran he has done nothing and their capabilities for nuclear evil has progressed.
- slowmover
- 08-30-2014, 11:36 AM
- ManSlut
- 08-30-2014, 09:14 PM
Take it to the political threads ... you'll find plenty of interested playmates. Originally Posted by MooneyFlyer
I must agree. This is not what the sandbox is for. Originally Posted by slowmoverIt may not be a topic you or I like, but the last line of this forum clearly states, "If it's NOT hobby-related, then you're in the right place!"
Change the channel if it doesn't appeal to you.
- elcalifa
- 08-30-2014, 09:32 PM
true dat, if you don't want to read it, don't open the thread?
Yeah, it blows since Hamas is using these people for shields. The whole middle east is a snake pit. There are no friendly sides to take.
Yeah, it blows since Hamas is using these people for shields. The whole middle east is a snake pit. There are no friendly sides to take.
- elcalifa
- 08-30-2014, 09:33 PM
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- Jewish Lawyer
- 09-01-2014, 05:02 PM
I find it tragically ironic that Israel has been forced by Hamas' indiscriminate rocket attacks to lay siege to The Gaza Strip. The results must be measured in the lives of innocents lost by seemingly casual attacks by the Israeli Army and Air Force in response to Hamas unguided missles aimed at Israel.Israel is merely defending itself, as is its right. God gave us the land, after all.
The irony is the comparison to be drawn between today's slaughter of inncoents in Gaza and that which occurred in Warsaw during WWII when the Nazis laid seige to the ghettos after Jews decided to defend themselves and reject the Nazis desire to lead Jews to death camps like sheep to a slaughter. I'm aghast at both sides.
The leaders of Gaza should have killed as many members of Hamas as possible when it entered the Gaza Strip more than 10 years ago and took control of its infrastructure. They were too weak, cowardly and lazy. The results are now playing out in the Gaza Strip as Hamas hides behind innocent civilians when launching its missles at Israel. Those that have protesterd Hamas' tactics disappear or are publicly executed as examples. The progeny of ISIS? Perhaps.
Here and now, the Israelis are compelled to lay seige to The Gaza Strip in much the same strategic manner as the Nazis did to Warsaw. How chilling for such a murderous tactic to now be employed by Israel as it fights to reign in Hamas. Destroying the tunnels is a temporary solution at best. Perhaps that's the best to be achieved but at the cost of many innocent dead women and children. Israel has cemented in place a new generation of hate for its people in the Middle East and many places in Europe. It's a no-win scenario without the eradication of Hamas or Israel...or both. Originally Posted by txcwby6
- EZ.
- 09-02-2014, 09:37 AM
Israel is merely defending itself, as is its right. God gave us the land, after all. Originally Posted by Jewish LawyerAbsolutely.
People need to understand that Islam is not a peaceful religion. They have no intention of allowing Israel to exist. Just look at what ISIS is doing in Iraq.
Quran 8:12
I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.