I wish I could find a really nice Lady who will see me when I call, enjoy the moment, and not expect me to "help her out" with things that have nothing to do with this Hobby.
Originally Posted by Jackie S
You can. There are plenty of them. Whoever this lady is, she has obviously pegged you as a sucker. A provider should never expect anything more than the fee for her time and companionship and should certainly not contact a hobbyist asking for favors. Talk about tacky!
Now if you OFFERED her favors or gifts, well, that's different. A lot of guys do that sort of thing and then get resentful that all their kindness hasn't won the girl over and she's still expecting to be paid for her services. (I'm not saying this is you.) But for some guys, a gift is not a gift. It's a bribe. An attempt to buy love. Never offer to do something special for a provider in the hopes of her becoming your girlfriend. It doesn't work. If she doesn't want to be your girlfriend before you give her the stuff, she's not going to want to be after you give her the stuff. And if she's the manipulative type, you've basically stamped "walk all over me" to your forehead. Women, just like men, can tell when the power dynamic has changed. Once a hobbyist starts falling all over himself (again, not aimed at you) to woo a provider, there can only be a few possible outcomes.
1) She will mark you as a sucker and try to get everything she can out of you.
2) She will be creeped out and think you've begun to cross boundaries.
3) She will be very touched by your kindness and thank you for your thoughtfulness but still, probably not be interested in taking the relationship to the next level.
Providers do occasionally fall for hobbyists either sexually or emotionally and go off the clock with them. But if a hobbyist has to try too hard, she hasn't really fallen for you. If a hobbyist really thinks a provider might be genuinely interested in a relationship outside the hobby, he should ask her to go on a date off the clock and see what happens. Make it clear that no money will be exchanged. Obviously buy her dinner and show her a good time, but you don't need to throw in a diamond necklace. During the date play a little hard to get. Don't glom all over her. Make her fight for your sexual attention. If she seems interested, occasionally reward her with physical contact and clever compliments but nothing that seems needy or desperate. Flirt for sure, but don't be too over the top. If after the date SHE tries to jump YOUR bones, then you know the attraction is real.