my opinion of current rates discussion welcome

Let me qualify this with the statement that I do not hobby with as many different providers as I used to. I currently have a few that I have seen over the years and continue to see. My main objective in hobbying is to fulfill the desire to be with and explore intimacy with different women. To me, intimacy is more than getting my dick sucked and stuffing it in a pussy.(I used the word stuffing because my dick is humongous!)
However, so many ads I read mention GFE and are priced to justify GFE, but the no list is extensive once you get started. NO kissing, No fingers, No BBBJ, No greek, my nipples are sensitive, my pussy is ticklish, you remind me of my cousin..........what else is left after that. I usually arrange for an hour because I want to not feel rushed and enjoy each other, but have not felt the current hour rate is justified for limited contact.

I get that providers are having sex with strangers for money, but I have had more involved encounters with one night stands. Before I get hate statements about "women can charge what they want" and "exclude any activities they want", I would just like to point out I am the one handing the money over. If I do not feel the services offered are adequate enough for the amount of money I am paying, then there is a problem. Let's not forget that most of our meetings are less than an hour, even though I lie and tell my friends I lasted 89 minutes and got a cash tip when I left.

I just do not feel that the amount of money currently being requested reflects the current level of intimacy being offered. I am hoping for different points of view, so responses from mongers and providers are most welcome. Please do not take this to mean I am calling any one provider out. I am happy to pay what is being asked or pass if I don't feel compelled.

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So many contradictions!

I have had more involved encounters with one night stands. Originally Posted by ggew44

Yet you continue to pay premium rates to providers when you have a much better time hooking up with random ladies ?

I usually arrange for an hour because I want to not feel rushed and enjoy each other, but have not felt the current hour rate is justified for limited contact. Originally Posted by ggew44

If I do not feel the services offered are adequate enough for the amount of money I am paying, then there is a problem. Let's not forget that most of our meetings are less than an hour. Originally Posted by ggew44

Won't even touch this one.

I am happy to pay what is being asked or pass if I don't feel compelled. Originally Posted by ggew44

I just do not feel that the amount of money currently being requested reflects the current level of intimacy being offered. Originally Posted by ggew44

Or this one!

I currently have a few that I have seen over the years and continue to see. Originally Posted by ggew44

I used the word stuffing because my dick is humongous! Originally Posted by ggew44

This is your main problem.
You continue seeing these ladies that have gotten comfortable with you. They know they can do the minimum, you won't complain and you'll keep cumming back. Plus they short you on time because despite what porn stars say ladies don't enjoy getting their pussies stretched out by a tree trunk.
Concentrate more on the random hookups, you'll get the whole GFE foreplay thing & by the time they realize that they're going to get split in half it'll be too late for them to back out.

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I get it. Providers are free to ask for any rate (or decline any service), just as your allowed to decline any rate, (or ask fkr any service).

What annoys me, is if you decline any rate or ask for any service your the bad guy.

We currently live in a world where the provider is in demand (always right) and the hobbiest is always wrong.

But, thst is fine I save my $$ and someday it will change.

I just do not feel that the amount of money currently being requested reflects the current level of intimacy being offered. I am hoping for different points of view, so responses from mongers and providers are most welcome. Please do not take this to mean I am calling any one provider out. I am happy to pay what is being asked or pass if I don't feel compelled.

I agree on your value per dollar statement . Many providers are asking for premium donations for a basic service. I am sure many agree that quality in any service industry has gotten terrible since Covid and the troubled economy . Few providers in any service industry seem to care about the quality of service they provide . Most service industries know they can provide a basic service while charging a premium rate .

In terms of hobbying . Providers and Sugar Babies are only willing to do basics unless you have a special relationship with them or your paying huge money. Most clients fall into the category of easily replaced with multiple Johns waiting for a turn. Being unconcerned with repeat clients. Quality of service is minimal . Supply / Demand .

Currently most service industries have an over abundance of customers while being understaffed . The current service industry mindset is " Your lucky I agreed to provide a service . If you don't like it , leave I have people in line . "

Find providers and businesses that show your valued as a customer . Providers and business that treat you like your there for them . Say your piece and walk away. When their paychecks decrease , quality of service will increase.

The dollar doesn't stretch as far and inflation is causing that. We are a debtor nation that has to have high inflation to justify the debt. Probably not the answer you are looking for but if your money/income is not keeping up with inflation as a purchaser of goods, then you just become an old guy complaining what services cost and what it used to cost back in the day like older people did to us when we were younger.

Inflation STEALS from the middle class!

There are way more options today than before anyone had a smart phone and considerably less value overall with in person adult entertainment. Maybe just as many great providers are out there as ever but for those of us not looking to share our personal information or pay top attorney rates in hopes the girl on the other side of that Super 8 door is actually the one in the pics its just not as worthwhile a hobby as it once was.

If you have the means to travel there are still plenty of places in the world that love US dollars and appreciate service in the adult industry. I enjoy some virtual fun as well and have engaged with some of the very beautiful women my current is in Barcelona and doesn't speak great English but does take direction very well. Our sessions cost about 1/4 of an AMP visit. There are plenty of ways to enjoy ourselves without giving in to the nonsense some 'providers' are trying to pull

have engaged with some of the very beautiful women my current is in Barcelona and doesn't speak great English but does take direction very well. Our sessions cost about 1/4 of an AMP visit. There are plenty of ways to enjoy ourselves without giving in to the nonsense some 'providers' are trying to pull Originally Posted by DNinja69

That's why I got into tricking, the beautiful talent, anything less gets less. Rule of Life