A provider's business etiquette- Friendly, Business or Both?

I just wanted to ask everyone here in the forum about a scenario and get everyone's thoughts on it.

I contacted a provider through text (there preferred method of communication) with a simple "hello". Something nice and polite (at least so I thought). They then responded with a "?". I then asked if I could call them and they said they were in a place where they could not talk. I told them where I got their number and asked about talking(this part is probably my fault, I should have stated at a later time, like I did in my next text). They misconstrued that as me wanting to call them and stated once more they could not talk. I responded back that I indeed understood and asked when would be a good time to call…… Here is where IMHO it gets a little weird…….

I am told that either I know I am going to book a session with a provider or not. They do not feel like wasting time talking to someone who might not even book a session and if I did not want to book a session immediately THROUGH TEXT (Which I find incredibly uncomfortable) then they could not be bothered with talking with me.


When I told them that I would pass, and that I was indeed looking for something but had found this overall “strictly-business” (in regards to does not even have the time to converse with me at a later time) a little offputting, I got blasted over text. The texts I sent her earlier, which have been described here were called “off-putting” and “needy”. And that in the future I need to change how I first interact with a provider (Something I have never had any complaints about).


Is this considered the status quo these days? While I know this is a business transaction for both parties involved, I like a certain amount of banter between both parties to see if we mesh well before setting something up. I have seen a few providers on here (SueNami, Mia Christine, Ms. Kristine, etc- Which all of them have been polite to a fault and true please to meet) and have never before been presented with this level of overall crassness.


Just wanted other people’s two cents and if anyone would like the name of the provider, please PM me.

"There's two theories about dealing with women. Neither one works."

yeah, maybe she's right to get a bit impatient at the start, when you may have seemed slow to read her needs and didn't say "at a later time," as you said. But the overall attitude is hard. If she's that concerned about tire-kickers (car dealership term for "just looking") then she's going to be hard as nails later. So forget her, but maybe pick up your conversational pace a step.

"There's two theories about dealing with women. Neither one works."

yeah, maybe she's right to get a bit impatient at the start, when you may have seemed slow to read her needs and didn't say "at a later time," as you said. But the overall attitude is hard. If she's that concerned about tire-kickers (car dealership term for "just looking") then she's going to be hard as nails later. So forget her, but maybe pick up your conversational pace a step. Originally Posted by TravelingTex

I can totally agree with that. I dislike using text as a method of communication anyway, and my "verbal skills" are much better. I just felt like I was talking to someone who had jaded by the business and it was incredibly off putting IMHO.

1. You may have not been texting the Provider. You may have gotten her agent
2. From what I hear time wasters are a problem for many and you may have been identified as one
3. The "friendly part is for when the session takes place and knowledge of you besides a phone number exisits.( trust)
4. PM first if that is a mode of communication she accepts. Both of you feel safer that way.
5. Don't ask too many questions. Questions are bad. Do your research so that you don't ask questions.

"hello"
"can i call you?"
"i got you number from your showcase, can we we talk?"
"i understand, what's a good time to call"

Based on your posting, I have reconstructed what you sent out as text messages...and you really don't give the lady much to work with in terms of what you want other than to "talk", of which she probably gets that all day.

What works for me is: one message, maybe two, short and sweet and to the point..
"Hi my name is X, my handle on Eccie is Lion26 and I was wanting to know if you were available to spend some time with. You can either text me back or call me at this number."

I mean, how would you respond to a random, vague texter asking you to call them?

Texting is of the devil but in todays world it has become the coin of the realm. You can't be playful or even polite with texts. Like Lion26 says identify yourself, state your purpose, state call back instructions. Think soup nazi. When you are done with the text step smartly to the side.

80% plus chance you're texting with her pimp. The pimp wants to control the girl's phone number and not let her talk directly to the client or have the client's phone number.

"Gotta keep mah bitches in line."

"hello"
"can i call you?"
"i got you number from your showcase, can we we talk?"
"i understand, what's a good time to call"

Based on your posting, I have reconstructed what you sent out as text messages...and you really don't give the lady much to work with in terms of what you want other than to "talk", of which she probably gets that all day.

What works for me is: one message, maybe two, short and sweet and to the point..
"Hi my name is X, my handle on Eccie is Lion26 and I was wanting to know if you were available to spend some time with. You can either text me back or call me at this number."

I mean, how would you respond to a random, vague texter asking you to call them? Originally Posted by Lion26

Thank you for the advice. I will take it into account. Most likely however, I will not contact a provider who does text's only. The only thing are missing is point that she was immediately trying to sell me a session without even talking to me whatsoever. It was either commit to something right then and there or not. I have never been a fan of high pressure sales.....

80% plus chance you're texting with her pimp. The pimp wants to control the girl's phone number and not let her talk directly to the client or have the client's phone number.

"Gotta keep mah bitches in line." Originally Posted by GneissGuy

Perhaps you are correct. It is sad that she is also brand new to the forum.... I feel bad for other people who contact her and get this kind of rough and mean attitude.

1. You may have not been texting the Provider. You may have gotten her agent
2. From what I hear time wasters are a problem for many and you may have been identified as one
3. The "friendly part is for when the session takes place and knowledge of you besides a phone number exisits.( trust)
4. PM first if that is a mode of communication she accepts. Both of you feel safer that way.
5. Don't ask too many questions. Questions are bad. Do your research so that you don't ask questions. Originally Posted by harkontume

1- Perhaps
2- I can see that
3- If I cant hear someone's voice on the phone, it usually sends a large red flag for me. I want to make sure if the person sounds both coherent and pleasent. I do not want to arrive at a location and be suprised.
4- Texting was there preferred method of communication
5- They are a newbie, so there isnt a WHOLE lot of research to be done.

Time is $$. She's not getting paid to chitchat and make you comfortable on the phone. Biggest mistake was asking if you could talk? Basically translates to "I would like to talk to a female and most likely take up your time for free."

Wisest to simply state:

"Saw your ad/review on ...... I am interested in booking a session. My name is .... and I can be reached at ....
End of story.
If and when she calls and you discuss the details, you will get a sense of her persona but you'd better have done your research first. Do not discuss price or activities or she will hang up on your ass and rightly so. This isn't a blind dating service. It's an extremely risky industry for both parties and both should behave accordingly.

If an agent calls on her behalf then know that it's time to move on or book her based upon her reviews. If she's a newbie then just cross your fingers and take one for the team like everyone else who party plans outside of Eccie.

This is the exact same scenario as with another current thread where the provider demands you pay for 15 minutes of chitchat before getting what you paid for.

Neither scenario is reasonable in my opinion. You shouldn't expect her free time on the phone any more than you should be charged to just talk.

Time is $$. She's not getting paid to chitchat and make you comfortable on the phone. Biggest mistake was asking if you could talk? Basically translates to "I would like to talk to a female and most likely take up your time for free."

Wisest to simply state:

"Saw your ad/review on ...... I am interested in booking a session. My name is .... and I can be reached at ....
End of story.
If and when she calls and you discuss the details, you will get a sense of her persona but you'd better have done your research first. Do not discuss price or activities or she will hang up on your ass and rightly so. This isn't a blind dating service. It's an extremely risky industry for both parties and both should behave accordingly.

If an agent calls on her behalf then know that it's time to move on or book her based upon her reviews. If she's a newbie then just cross your fingers and take one for the team like everyone else who party plans outside of Eccie.

This is the exact same scenario as with another current thread where the provider demands you pay for 15 minutes of chitchat before getting what you paid for.

Neither scenario is reasonable in my opinion. You shouldn't expect her free time on the phone any more than you should be charged to just talk. Originally Posted by Codybeast

Its just me, but that seems incredibly asinine. I am paying for a service, if I want to gauge how someone sounds over the phone and talk VERY briefly before deciding to book an appt. or not, I should be able to do so. With the numerous number of providers out there, a provider should take the time to be nice to EVERY potential customer. And I think you did not read my full post properly......... I was told either I booked at that exact moment, or to fuck off. Bad high pressure salesmanship....... I have never had that happen with another provider, and if you have, I feel sorry for you taking that shit.

You are correct in that it is a buyer's market and a provider should take the time to be nice to every potential customer. But, like any place that trades services/product for $ - vote w/ your $ if the customer service is lacking. My guess is that she is being 'handled'.

Being the free-spirited and fiercely independent woman that I am and always have been, I can't even comprehend that world or what it feels like to live that way. For you guys to walk that fine line and take that risk when meeting w/ those girls makes me glad I don't have testicles

From my own experience and for what it is worth mini-tutorial: Best text to send me given I may be w/ friends or civvies. "Hi A. I saw your info and am very interested in meeting you. Is this a good time to text or talk?" *Hi there, thank you for the inquiry - I am busy right now and can't talk or text but would love to have you email me at yourmightyaphrodite..., if you do so, I will write you and we can learn a bit more about each other. If you can go ahead and give me your references or screening info - I will email you asap OR if it is ok I will text you when I am free.*

If I get a "Hi You free?" text I will ignore it...fyi.
If you ever get a 'you need to book now' text from me...I have been kidnapped by aliens...fyi.

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Its just me, but that seems incredibly asinine. I am paying for a service, if I want to gauge how someone sounds over the phone and talk VERY briefly before deciding to book an appt. or not, I should be able to do so. With the numerous number of providers out there, a provider should take the time to be nice to EVERY potential customer. And I think you did not read my full post properly......... I was told either I booked at that exact moment, or to fuck off. Bad high pressure salesmanship....... I have never had that happen with another provider, and if you have, I feel sorry for you taking that shit. Originally Posted by Drunken_Hooligan

Once again it is wisest to simply state:

"Saw your ad/review on ...... I am interested in booking a session. My name is .... and I can be reached by phone at ....

This reveals you are serious and she is still obligated to call if she wants your business. This does not mean you are obligated to follow through with a booking.

If she is insistent that you book on the spot via text then what is your gripe? She's obviously a scam, pimp or headcase and has just self alerted saving you a very bad experience.

When and if she calls you will quickly be able to ascertain through a few prepared questions whether or not you are comfortable with her persona.

If she is short on the phone then pass on the appt.
If she is rude on the phone then pass on the appt.
If she is evasive on the phone then pass on the appt.
If she lacks personality on the phone then pass on the appt. I think you get the point. What you don't need is an advanced "Get to you know you conversation" to get a sense of her.

You may be new to this but common sense should tell you that the likely majority of inquiries in this unsavory industry (Especially BP) are from sleeze either busting the girl's balls or hoping for a "Get to know you conversation" with dick in hand.

Considering this, it would be asinine to think that you somehow will stand out from the crowd as a serious "Buyer".

It is also asinine to compare this to purchasing a normal legal product in a normal legal industry.

I am not calling you asinine but am referencing your use of the word.

Before you decide to eat at a restaurant do you call and ask the host to stop what she's doing and provide you a description of all menu items and a promise that the food will be to your liking? I hope not. What you do is log online and research the menu and reviews.

Once again it is wisest to simply state:

"Saw your ad/review on ...... I am interested in booking a session. My name is .... and I can be reached by phone at ....

This reveals you are serious and she is still obligated to call if she wants your business. This does not mean you are obligated to follow through with a booking.

If she is insistent that you book on the spot via text then what is your gripe? She's obviously a scam, pimp or headcase and has just self alerted saving you a very bad experience.

When and if she calls you will quickly be able to ascertain through a few prepared questions whether or not you are comfortable with her persona.

If she is short on the phone then pass on the appt.
If she is rude on the phone then pass on the appt.
If she is evasive on the phone then pass on the appt.
If she lacks personality on the phone then pass on the appt. I think you get the point. What you don't need is an advanced "Get to you know you conversation" to get a sense of her.

You may be new to this but common sense should tell you that the likely majority of inquiries in this unsavory industry (Especially BP) are from sleeze either busting the girl's balls or hoping for a "Get to know you conversation" with dick in hand.

Considering this, it would be asinine to think that you somehow will stand out from the crowd as a serious "Buyer".

It is also asinine to compare this to purchasing a normal legal product in a normal legal industry.

I am not calling you asinine but am referencing your use of the word.

Before you decide to eat at a restaurant do you call and ask the host to stop what she's doing and provide you a description of all menu items and a promise that the food will be to your liking? I hope not. What you do is log online and research the menu and reviews. Originally Posted by Codybeast

While I thank you for your words, I am glad you actually proved my point for me.

If she is short on the phone then pass on the appt.
If she is rude on the phone then pass on the appt.
If she is evasive on the phone then pass on the appt.
If she lacks personality on the phone then pass on the appt. I think you get the point. What you don't need is an advanced "Get to you know you conversation" to get a sense of her.

^ I was unable to do ANY of the above on the phone due to not being able to talk to her. I do not want some touchy feely feel good love in with a provider over the phone, I want to ascertain certain things rather quickly is all. You also missed the point that this person is a NEWBIE...... Sure I could go look at a menu online before going to a restaurant, but if the site is either under construction or not fully filled out, I am that person that might call them and ask them about the menu. Trust me, in the future I will not contact a provider unless at some point they are able to speak over the phone.