the President to meet with Congressinal leaders today

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  • 10-02-2013, 02:21 PM
So he can tell Republicans that he won't negotiate? He's done that before. Several times.

Let Obama wait for a tee time in the dark.
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  • 10-02-2013, 04:48 PM
So he can tell Republicans that he won't negotiate? He's done that before. Several times.

Let Obama wait for a tee time in the dark. Originally Posted by gnadfly

or so republicans can REFUSE to negotiate like they have for the last 8 months ..

either way
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  • 10-02-2013, 05:27 PM
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The shutdown will hurt the GOP far worse then the Democrats. That is just the way things are. People want their gummint freebies and will blame the GOP for not letting them have it.

If the GOP was smart, they would speed up the process of driving Obamacare to its natural conclusion - a single payer system. Push everybody into it, cap all fees, and force healthcare costs down to about 12 % of the GDP from its current position of about 18%.

The healthcare will be cheap but lousy, except for those who can afford elite private care.

Then the GOP can blame the whole thing on the Dems.
They had to change the rules to even get a bill through the House.
The shutdown will hurt the GOP far worse then the Democrats. That is just the way things are. People want their gummint freebies and will blame the GOP for not letting them have it.

If the GOP was smart, they would speed up the process of driving Obamacare to its natural conclusion - a single payer system. Push everybody into it, cap all fees, and force healthcare costs down to about 12 % of the GDP from its current position of about 18%.

The healthcare will be cheap but lousy, except for those who can afford elite private care.

Then the GOP can blame the whole thing on the Dems. Originally Posted by ExNYer
What's going to happen is everyone will be forced into single payer, the healthcare cost will go up to 24% of GDP, fraud and abuse will be rampant, healthcare will be lousy and there will be no Republicans left to pay for it.
what he said.
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  • 10-02-2013, 09:50 PM
What's going to happen is everyone will be forced into single payer, the healthcare cost will go up to 24% of GDP, fraud and abuse will be rampant, healthcare will be lousy and there will be no Republicans left to pay for it. Originally Posted by gnadfly
stupid question ... there wont be single payer
What he said.
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What he bumped
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You guys are correct. by the time Obamacare fails massively, the debt will have forced the US into default and there wont be anybody left to pay.
The problem with the commie socialist way is that soner or later they will run out of other people's money to spend.
So House and Senate leaders met with the President yesterday. It was reported that "Each party said the other party wouldn't compromise."

However, the President has publicly said that he won't negotiate. And the house has changed their position since the Cruz "filibuster" and sent different bills to the Senate where they aren't picked up by Reid even though he has said he'd put them to vote.

So who won't compromise?